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Sonnie
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 Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 07:10 AM PST
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No flop for Blake!!!!
If he'll be a mistake we must retire our team and run away!!!
But i think blake will be a monster,....uhm i hope...
we don't have need another candyman!!! |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 12:59 PM PST
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b_diddy wrote:
who's doughboy? and i think you're takin it a bit extreme toohip..
Im guessin doughboy is Chris Kaman |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 01:15 PM PST
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| how can kaman be doughboy when he is already cake-man? |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 01:44 PM PST
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MVP, MVP!
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
I re read the analysis and I'm sure the team will be tweaked in unpredictable ways but. The first thing that has to be fixed is Management. If MDSr were working for Microsoft, he'd have been fired years ago. Not even debateable, a fact.If I performed like he did, I'd be in the unemployment line. He can't motivate the players and can't control Baron. Unless you fix that, kiss the season bye bye. 30 at best. Our problems have been 30-50% management's fault. the Spurs couldn't win here. When you're assessing peoples' performance pretend you're DTS and the $$$ is coming out of your pocket and you could be using it for a bootie call instead. (Better spent there than on MDSr or BD)
This shouldn't be a rebuilding year. We just don't know what to expect. The only sure things are Eric G and ugly pocket hankies. Performance wise, Al, BG, Taylor, DJ, Cakeman, BD, Novak (?)and Ricky are as predictable as a woman with PMS. We're depending on DJ who is raw but has skills and BG who is a newbie. BD, Marcus and Doughboy are injury prone and Doughboy is a head case. Sam, Cat. Corey and EB gave you the same every night no surprises. Predictability is or lack thereof is contageous but it comes from top down.
If BG flops, we flop because we gave up 25ppg with Cat/Tim-- 20ppg Zbo. Where do those points come from? CK stepping it up and BG/Al 35 ppg and everyone playing to potential.
well even if BG ends up being a bust, u cant say we wont get the 20 ppg back, cause we will. you have to remember that with no zach, his touches per game( he got a t least a tocu hevery 2 possesions) will go to EG and AL and BD. they will more than make up the scoring. we have some of the best socrers in the nba, if we get a flow. our offense is a go with the flow type. i remember when zbo was out and bd was in, our offense was so smooth, even if it was for a quarter of a game. zbo kills the flow cause he doesnt pass the ball around for the best shot. he thinks all of his shots are the best shots. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 05:56 PM PST
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| You get the choice, a buscuit or Angel food true an exageration. Kaman should have been in the weight room and put on some beef. He had all season He could have increased his vertical jump but he played for the Olympic team. People talk about how strong he is. I haven't seen it and he should be a powerhouse. Back down some PF's at least. I expect consistancy. Mark Jackson has an expression "Grown man move" why doesn't he THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN? |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 07:13 PM PST
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Hopefully Kaman will grow back his hair Caveman style. He played his best ball back then. Maybe some of his game will return with his hair. This is the only hope i have for Kaman aside from that i think he will have another lazy season not giving his all.
I think Baron will get back close to his GSW form. All that offseason work should payoff somehow. Same goes for DJ i would love for him to emerge and force Kaman to improve or be benched.
As for Dunleavy I think he will limit this team. The sooner we get rid of him the better. We have the talent on our roster but if Dunleavy is out coached in the forth quarter(like most games last season) we are going to be screwed. If Baron can show elements of Sam Casell's former veteran presence to counter Dunleavy and win games we will be OK. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2009 - 07:45 PM PST
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My rant/prayer about Caveman/Cakeman. This guy has an amazing skill set.He's quick for a real Big. He's agile. He's got good fundamentals. He's a good FT shooter. He has good endurance (he played almost one whole game once). And he's AMBIDEXTEROUS. The holes in his game are obvious and easily fixable. He should one of the premier centers in the league virtually unstoppable offensively.
He's gonna get doubled immediately and he passes. If he doesn't have the power to get good position nothing accomplished. He bulls his way in, reposts, gets doubled again. He can spin either way. to either baseline. Baseline spin. Since he's ambidexterous the ball is in the hand nearest the rack. He out jumps the defender. He hammers it or does a finger roll under the defender's arm. He does a Shaq boom-boom and hits a jumper. He should have done this years ago. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 12:26 AM PST
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
My rant/prayer about Caveman/Cakeman. This guy has an amazing skill set.He's quick for a real Big. He's agile. He's got good fundamentals. He's a good FT shooter. He has good endurance (he played almost one whole game once). And he's AMBIDEXTEROUS. The holes in his game are obvious and easily fixable. He should one of the premier centers in the league virtually unstoppable offensively.
He's gonna get doubled immediately and he passes. If he doesn't have the power to get good position nothing accomplished. He bulls his way in, reposts, gets doubled again. He can spin either way. to either baseline. Baseline spin. Since he's ambidexterous the ball is in the hand nearest the rack. He out jumps the defender. He hammers it or does a finger roll under the defender's arm. He does a Shaq boom-boom and hits a jumper. He should have done this years ago.
I agree with most of what you just said, except your evidence for him being in good shape is pretty weak.. he almost played in one whole game once? haha kinda funny other than that though i agree with you mostly except the unstoppable part. I think he should get back somewhere close to his 15-11-2 days and in my mind a 13-10-2 would be quite acceptable from him.. that is ppg-rpg-bpg |
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clipperstown
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 12:54 AM PST
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b_diddy wrote:
toohipcliptoslip wrote:
My rant/prayer about Caveman/Cakeman. This guy has an amazing skill set.He's quick for a real Big. He's agile. He's got good fundamentals. He's a good FT shooter. He has good endurance (he played almost one whole game once). And he's AMBIDEXTEROUS. The holes in his game are obvious and easily fixable. He should one of the premier centers in the league virtually unstoppable offensively.
He's gonna get doubled immediately and he passes. If he doesn't have the power to get good position nothing accomplished. He bulls his way in, reposts, gets doubled again. He can spin either way. to either baseline. Baseline spin. Since he's ambidexterous the ball is in the hand nearest the rack. He out jumps the defender. He hammers it or does a finger roll under the defender's arm. He does a Shaq boom-boom and hits a jumper. He should have done this years ago.
I agree with most of what you just said, except your evidence for him being in good shape is pretty weak.. he almost played in one whole game once? haha kinda funny other than that though i agree with you mostly except the unstoppable part. I think he should get back somewhere close to his 15-11-2 days and in my mind a 13-10-2 would be quite acceptable from him.. that is ppg-rpg-bpg
if kaman gets stronger he can easily be 16-12-2. this guy can get all of his points in the first quarter, just like EB used to do. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 03:44 AM PST
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| Two years ago during one game he didn't sit down. I was there. That was good shape. You have a guy who is ambidexterous and who can spin to either side equally is getting close to unstoppable and add 3 inches to his jump. 20 should not be unusual |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 03:51 AM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| please blake don't get hurt like livingston |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 03:51 AM PST
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Two years ago during one game he didn't sit down. I was there. That was good shape. You have a guy who is ambidexterous and who can spin to either side equally is getting close to unstoppable and add 3 inches to his jump. 20 should not be unusual
Yeah I hear what you're saying, and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with it. I don't think he's in bad shape by any means, but to say he's in great shape (you may have said that in the previous) post was a bit of an exaggeration. I mean playing one game does take endurance, yes, but great shape is defined by those who can bring it and for extended periods of time, as well. Like whole seasons and even careers, while still producing. Pretty much all of the players in the NBA are in good enough shape to play a whole game here or there, but it's the ones who consistently do it that merit that tag.
And I'm not trying to get in a whole thing here, I do agree with what you're saying in regards to what he can bring to the table. Just the whole "in shape" thing kinda got me haha. Bottomline, he is in shape, all NBA players pretty much are. But generally I've noticed guys who stay healthy are the ones, with luck, who really take care of their bodies in the offseason. But anyways, good point about the more important things like his game and what he brings to the table. When he wants to he can demand a double team and can be a solid post defender as well as a capable weak side defender, when he wants to be or when he can stay on the floor. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 04:05 AM PST
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| Livingston's accident was a freak. He should have gotten a standing ovation at Staples for being able to play again. That took the heart of a lion. You will never see another injury in your life. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 04:09 AM PST
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| BTW, the greatest player ever played every minute of one season including overtimes and never sat down once and never fouled out, but he never fouled out in his career. That's in shape |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 11:08 AM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| in response to cakeman playing a whole game once...I say he should do it more often, bc he should have extra energy from all the games he misses |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2009 - 12:24 PM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
BTW, the greatest player ever played every minute of one season including overtimes and never sat down once and never fouled out, but he never fouled out in his career. That's in shape
haha that's not just in shape that's plain crazy.. you gotta be an iron man to do that.. impressive to say the least though |
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