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Post subject: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
 Posted: May 22, 2008 - 01:53 AM PST
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hey guys, iite lemme start off by saying I frankly am DISGUSTED by the ignorance of the Clippers Management. Their lack of interest in winning is really pissing me off. Here's my idea:
Draft:
- Kevin Love (Hoping He Will Go That Low)
Love is a perfect fit for the post game. Love and Kaman in the same post sounds deadly.
Sign:
- Gilbert Arenas (rumor is he's opting out)
Instead of signing obscure and irrevalent players, land Arenas. He is an LA native and im sure he'd join knowing were trying to make big moves.
Trade:
- Corey Maggette
We Can Easily Get Ben Gordon, Or Michael Redd for him and some scrub.
- Elton Brand
Okay, now you guys think im crazy. Well, im not. im just being realistic. Brand hasn't done much for us since 2006. Hes inconsistent, and hes injured all the time. We can open cap space and get a LEGIT player. Maybe
someone like... Melo? or someone that can put butts in tha chairs.
now...look at this line-up IF all goes to plan
C- Kaman
PF- Love
SF- Thornton or Melo or someone we trade brand for.
SG- Redd, or Gordon
PG- Arenas
i mean cmon. CLIPPERS NEED CHANGE!
Feel Free To Comment Clipper Nation.
Ima visionary, and yes im eccentric
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Post subject: RE: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 02:41 AM PST
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| Welcome Fux^ to CTB! I like your plan except the part about Elton Brand. I do understand where you are coming from. And if I were the Clippers and Brand does decide to opt out and asks for the max extension, then I think some consideration of to be made to look at other opportunities. EB is not getting younger and I'm not so sure if he's a max player at this point. But yeah ultimately we really want to have him on the team. Also I'm a bit iffy about signing Gilbert if he's asking for too much $ (which he will). It's more because of how injury-prone he is and perhaps he's lost a step since his injuries. |
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Post subject: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 02:43 AM PST
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Fux^ wrote:
hey guys, iite lemme start off by saying I frankly am DISGUSTED by the ignorance of the Clippers Management. Their lack of interest in winning is really pissing me off. Here's my idea:
Draft:
- Kevin Love (Hoping He Will Go That Low)
Love is a perfect fit for the post game. Love and Kaman in the same post sounds deadly.
Sign:
- Gilbert Arenas (rumor is he's opting out)
Instead of signing obscure and irrevalent players, land Arenas. He is an LA native and im sure he'd join knowing were trying to make big moves.
Trade:
- Corey Maggette
We Can Easily Get Ben Gordon, Or Michael Redd for him and some scrub.
- Elton Brand
Okay, now you guys think im crazy. Well, im not. im just being realistic. Brand hasn't done much for us since 2006. Hes inconsistent, and hes injured all the time. We can open cap space and get a LEGIT player. Maybe
someone like... Melo? or someone that can put butts in tha chairs.
now...look at this line-up IF all goes to plan
C- Kaman
PF- Love
SF- Thornton or Melo or someone we trade brand for.
SG- Redd, or Gordon
PG- Arenas
i mean cmon. CLIPPERS NEED CHANGE!
Feel Free To Comment Clipper Nation.
Ima visionary, and yes im eccentric
Ok so first of all, the only reason why we had such a bad season last year was because of the injuries to Elton Brand & Shaun Livingston. We can't blame the management for that. It wasn't there fault that those players got injured. If it was, then its Yao Ming's fault for being tall...haha
Now with the whole drafting Kevin Love thing. Kevin Love, in my opinion, isn't athletic enough to guard anyone in the NBA. Don't get me wrong, he was a beast in UCLA. But just because he was killing it in UCLA, doesn't mean it'll translate to him being a solid NBA starter. If you give him a couple years, and make him get into better shape...then yeah I'd want him to be a clipper. But as of now, i'll pass
Lastly, trade away Brand? Cmon man...thats crazy. That's crazy like Stuart's Scott's left eye...haha im jp word up to Stuart |
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Post subject: RE: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 02:44 AM PST
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sounds great and all BUT WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO THINK OF IS CHEMISTRY. signing all these names and fame will not make an off the bat good team. Areanas, Redd, and Melo on the same team?!!! Might as well change the NBA rule to have three different balls on the court at one time. EB has not been great, but he is such a great person to have on the team, as well as Corey they can keep a team together, WHICH IS WHY I AM GOING CRAZY OVER PEOPLE WANTING TO GET RID OF CM50. In case you didnt notice the onyl reason we won anything this season was because of him.
I like the 50 and 42 combo now we have 12 and our #7 pick maybe get shaun back and we have a ledgit team again... maybe a move is needed, but i like our makeup for now. |
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Post subject: RE: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 03:20 AM PST
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| EB not great please tell me you take drugs. EB missed 70 games this year and against teams that were in the playoff hunt averaged 17, 8, 2. Hes only 29 we get him in his physical prime for two at least 2 years. With shaun being 6'7 we have a tall pg(assuming he is okay). The reason i think everyone is carazy for wanting a smaller guard is this, playing him at the point means when teams go small we are not hurting. Even if we were to go after ben gordon or monta ellis we would have a taller line up on the floor.(Ex Kaman=c, Brand=PF, Thorton=SF, SG, LIvingston=PG). Thats not small we still have a height advantage no matter who is the two. So even if we play man or zone were really not giving up anything. Its cool you think out of the box just dont think that far out of it. |
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Post subject: RE: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 03:22 AM PST
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| And by the way we still have to see if Love his going to be as good on the D end as brand is. Remember brand has a wingspan that makes him like 7'2 or somthing. And he could play anyone straight up. |
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Post subject: RE: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 12:39 PM PST
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Welcome Fux^ & I believe its incredibly exciting for us at this point because
depending on what we do we can ether be a playoff or above team or another not so good season...we'll see in time.. |
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Post subject: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 01:09 PM PST
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Fux^ wrote:
hey guys, iite lemme start off by saying I frankly am DISGUSTED by the ignorance of the Clippers Management. Their lack of interest in winning is really pissing me off. Here's my idea:
Draft:
- Kevin Love (Hoping He Will Go That Low)
Love is a perfect fit for the post game. Love and Kaman in the same post sounds deadly.
Sign:
- Gilbert Arenas (rumor is he's opting out)
Instead of signing obscure and irrevalent players, land Arenas. He is an LA native and im sure he'd join knowing were trying to make big moves.
Trade:
- Corey Maggette
We Can Easily Get Ben Gordon, Or Michael Redd for him and some scrub.
- Elton Brand
Okay, now you guys think im crazy. Well, im not. im just being realistic. Brand hasn't done much for us since 2006. Hes inconsistent, and hes injured all the time. We can open cap space and get a LEGIT player. Maybe
someone like... Melo? or someone that can put butts in tha chairs.
now...look at this line-up IF all goes to plan
C- Kaman
PF- Love
SF- Thornton or Melo or someone we trade brand for.
SG- Redd, or Gordon
PG- Arenas
i mean cmon. CLIPPERS NEED CHANGE!
Feel Free To Comment Clipper Nation.
Ima visionary, and yes im eccentric
Welcome Fux. I like your enthusiasm and your vision BUT you have it dead wrong about Brand.
First off, he is as consistent as the come in this league...just look at his stats throughout his career. His last full season 2006-2007, he had a better shotting % than the 2005-2006 season (0.527 -0.533). His PPG dropped 4 points (24.7 to 20.5 ) but that was only because he was double teamed most of the time and anyone having a year like Brand did in 2005-2006 will definitely be on anyone's scouting report the following year.
It wasn't his fault the other players didn't come to play with heart like Brand has throughout his career. They missed the play-offs but it was because his teammates let him down. He said it at the end of the season...and rightly so.
You don't let the heart of the team go without feeling any repercussions. Coming back to play at the end of this season proved he belongs in Clipper gear. His loyalty has no price. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 02:11 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 22, 2008 - 02:30 PM PST
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 12:50 AM PST
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I gave myself a reality check. Is Corey worth $10 mil? NO! He's a one dimension player. His appeal as I have said is he's a crowd pleaser. We don't have Sam ~$6 mil. We should let Shaun opt out and renegotiate. It sucks but we can't risk him as out starter. and his marketability is zero He's an injury waiting to happen. Good off the bench. WIll give different looks. We won't need Dicau. Trade no but it's good our new bro' keeps all options open
Corey should go no matter what. Wet him walk. We've got $9-10 mil. Sam's gone ~$6 mil. Livingston $4 Mil. Teade #50 straight up for Calderon Lots of extra $. Corey for Calderon and Koppono (we could throw in Thomas  ) With #50 gone, we could get Ellis if we want to pay. We have the Bigs covered so we start Al and ew need a SF + Q
Calderon Livigston, Knight
Ellis, Mobley
Thornton Koppono, Q
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 02:17 AM PST
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no people are brainwashed that Brand is a god. He inst and he has not been doing good compared to what he has done, and certainly not as good as what he could do, and certain as hell not as what he should be doing. he needs to get back and prove that he is an ALLSTAR OF THE NBA and not an ALLSTAR of the Clippers. Im standing at 6'0 192 lbs and I have no college basketball experience and i could've been the AllStar of the Clippers.
Thats all im saying, get off brands *** he is not as good as he is supposed to be. |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 09:41 AM PST
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LAC_12 wrote:
no people are brainwashed that Brand is a god. He inst and he has not been doing good compared to what he has done, and certainly not as good as what he could do, and certain as hell not as what he should be doing. he needs to get back and prove that he is an ALLSTAR OF THE NBA and not an ALLSTAR of the Clippers. Im standing at 6'0 192 lbs and I have no college basketball experience and i could've been the AllStar of the Clippers.
Thats all im saying, get off brands *** he is not as good as he is supposed to be.
People are brainwashed to think he is god? They/I "praise" his skills I know that but think he is God? psst. I know of no one who thinks Brand is god but what I do know you are the one that thinks you could be an all-star for the Clippers....no offense but you make it hard to take you serious when you make statements like that...sorry. |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 10:08 AM PST
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
I gave myself a reality check. Is Corey worth $10 mil? NO! He's a one dimension player. His appeal as I have said is he's a crowd pleaser. We don't have Sam ~$6 mil. We should let Shaun opt out and renegotiate. It sucks but we can't risk him as out starter. and his marketability is zero He's an injury waiting to happen. Good off the bench. WIll give different looks. We won't need Dicau. Trade no but it's good our new bro' keeps all options open
Corey should go no matter what. Wet him walk. We've got $9-10 mil. Sam's gone ~$6 mil. Livingston $4 Mil. Teade #50 straight up for Calderon Lots of extra $. Corey for Calderon and Koppono (we could throw in Thomas ) With #50 gone, we could get Ellis if we want to pay. We have the Bigs covered so we start Al and ew need a SF + Q
I agree with you about Corey. He isnt worth what he wants. He IS one dimensional and would fit better with a team who wants to add offense. Sure the Clippers want to add offense too, but WE HAVE NO BACKCOURT. Those who think Livingston will suddenly come back from his injury and we'll be fine are really really hoping. There's not even clues that his return will be full. We need outside shooting along with PG penetration and sound decision making. Losing Corey just paves the way for Thornton who is a more complete, more athletic, more exciting, more willing-to-grow player than Maggette is. I never wanted to cut ties with Q-Richardson (not saying he was as good as Corey is)...but I had to face facts that he wasnt helping the team move forward. Brand has proven he can still play at a high level. He proved it AS SOON as he came back on the court. So LAC_12, no he isnt Kobe, he isnt Garnett or Dwight Howard but his skills allow him to be named in the top Power Forwards of the league. One man cannot do it all. If that's what you expect of him, go watch a sport like Golf or Tennis, where there's no team play needed.
All I'm saying is people need to get over the Maggette experience. If you want the Clippers to win more, it's gotta come to an end. |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 10:43 AM PST
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| I meant it is good to consider all possibilities but trade EB-- |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 11:32 AM PST
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Speaking of EB, how much more will he want?
Corey and Thomas (Fat chance. I'd trade him for a half blind ball boy) to Toronto for Koppono and Calderon. Will Ellis sign for MLE? Let Shaun go.  It's Darwin time. If Sterling is serious, he'll fork out some $. With this team Arenas would come.
Areans Calderon Knight
Ellis Cat
Al, Koppono, Q
EB, Chris and a cast of Thomas-less others.
This would be better than an evening in the Clipper Spirit locker room and just as likely |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 12:27 PM PST
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LAC_12 wrote:
no people are brainwashed that Brand is a god. He inst and he has not been doing good compared to what he has done, and certainly not as good as what he could do, and certain as hell not as what he should be doing. he needs to get back and prove that he is an ALLSTAR OF THE NBA and not an ALLSTAR of the Clippers. Im standing at 6'0 192 lbs and I have no college basketball experience and i could've been the AllStar of the Clippers.
Thats all im saying, get off brands *** he is not as good as he is supposed to be.
The best thing to happen to the clippers since the clipper spirit and you want to put him down. Please do not put down the one player we know is consistent he may not be Tim Duncan to the rest of you but he is to me. |
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Post subject: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 23, 2008 - 02:42 PM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
You don't let the heart of the team go without feeling any repercussions. Coming back to play at the end of this season proved he belongs in Clipper gear. His loyalty has no price.
I love EB too CJ but if he decides to opt out I'm just not sure if we should sign him to a max contract at this point. And if he is so loyal why would he say that he's undecided about opting out? Now true loyalty would be for him to opt out, sign for less than the max so the team can get more help for him. But I certainly wouldn't blame him for wanting to get the most $, period. But I hope he doesn't opt out, play with us for one more season, and let's see how things go. If he does play great and is his old self then sure he probably deserves a max contract extension. |
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Post subject: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 23, 2008 - 05:06 PM PST
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david wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
You don't let the heart of the team go without feeling any repercussions. Coming back to play at the end of this season proved he belongs in Clipper gear. His loyalty has no price.
I love EB too CJ but if he decides to opt out I'm just not sure if we should sign him to a max contract at this point. And if he is so loyal why would he say that he's undecided about opting out? Now true loyalty would be for him to opt out, sign for less than the max so the team can get more help for him. But I certainly wouldn't blame him for wanting to get the most $, period. But I hope he doesn't opt out, play with us for one more season, and let's see how things go. If he does play great and is his old self then sure he probably deserves a max contract extension.
Maybe Brand wants to opt out because management has not done anything to show him they want to put together the best team possible instead of teams that just go out there for a paycheck. If he did opt out he knows we can pay him the most he just wants to at least smell championship again. I hope he is not reading this site and hears what you guys are saying about him. Im sure after the heart he puts out on the floor comments like this would hurt him. He could act like the the guy that wears purple and gold and slam everybody. At least we have someone that his acting like an adult in saying they would like to appear in one NBA finals. |
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Posted: May 23, 2008 - 08:03 PM PST
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| Another thing about Brand is maybe he isn't as marketable since his injury. Achilles tendon tears can happen on the other side so there is a risk and how do we know he's 100% physically now. |
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Post subject: Re: MY PLAN FOR THE 2008-2009 Clippers
Posted: May 23, 2008 - 08:10 PM PST
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david wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
You don't let the heart of the team go without feeling any repercussions. Coming back to play at the end of this season proved he belongs in Clipper gear. His loyalty has no price.
I love EB too CJ but if he decides to opt out I'm just not sure if we should sign him to a max contract at this point. And if he is so loyal why would he say that he's undecided about opting out? Now true loyalty would be for him to opt out, sign for less than the max so the team can get more help for him. But I certainly wouldn't blame him for wanting to get the most $, period. But I hope he doesn't opt out, play with us for one more season, and let's see how things go. If he does play great and is his old self then sure he probably deserves a max contract extension.
I kindly disagree. He has shown more heart and loyalty by coming back to a dead season for the fans...that says a lot. If he hasn't made a decision it is based on what the team is or isn't doing and what is in it for him...this is a business after all. Loyalty isn't based on giving up part of your livelihood, it is based giving your heart and soul while your with the team. The guy does nothing but good things in and out the court and to some degree, he is just to nice a guy compared to the real selfish players out today. We are fortunate to have him and giving up what he righ | |
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