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Post Subject: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 318845by clipper*joe » Nov 13, 2012 - 10:41 AM PST
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By SANTOSH VENKATARAMAN Posted Nov 14 2012 12:01AM

LeBron James' lowest scoring average is against the Los Angeles Clippers.

James struggled to score in last season's lone meeting against the Clippers heading into Wednesday night's matchup at Staples Center for the Miami Heat.

The three-time league MVP is averaging 23.1 points in 17 lifetime games versus Los Angeles (5-2). He missed 12 of 19 shots for 23 points in last season's 95-89 overtime loss.

James, however, had 13 rebounds and seven assists in that contest. The Clippers know his game is not based solely on scoring.

"You just have to make him work," Los Angeles forward Matt Barnes said. "He's such a talented player, the scoring numbers aren't always how he benefits his team the most. He controls the game through passing, through rebounding, through playing defense as well."

James was off to a slow start by his standards, averaging 21.9 points through his first seven games. He broke out with a season-high 38 - 32 after halftime - in Monday's 113-110 victory at Houston.

"It's the zone you hear about," James said. "Certain players talk about getting into the zone. I wish I could get into it more. But when you're in it, you know how it feels, you know everything you put up and how you're going is pretty good."

Miami (6-2) bounced back from a 104-86 loss at Memphis the night before. James only scored 20 in that contest before he turned in one of the most brilliant displays of the early season.

"I expected him to make every single shot he threw up," Chris Bosh said Monday. "I guess, after 30 points, you think everything is going in."

Bosh continued his strong play this season with 24 points and 10 rebounds. He's averaging 20.9 points - his highest in two-plus seasons since joining the Heat in 2010 after averaging at least 22.3 his last five seasons with Toronto.

"He's Mr. consistent," teammate Dwyane Wade said of Bosh. "He is a guy who does what he has to do and obviously on the offensive end he is multi-talented."

James is good friends with Clippers guard Chris Paul, a teammate at the London Olympics. They have split 12 meetings, with James averaging 25.0 points and 7.6 assists in those games and Paul 17.1 and 9.7, respectively, in those categories.

Paul is second in the league with 10.3 assists per game for a Clippers team that continues to showcase tremendous depth. Reserve guard Jamal Crawford leads the club with his 20.1 average.

Crawford is in a similar role as Heat veteran Ray Allen, who has been limited to 13 points over his last two games.

"This is a tough team you know with their Big 3 and then having Ray Allen coming off the bench," Barnes said. "They are a very talented and deep team. So we just have to stay focused and locked into the game plan and try to create the tempo we want to play at the defensive end."

Los Angeles won its third straight, 89-76 at home over Atlanta on Sunday. Blake Griffin led six Clippers in double figures with 16 points.

The Clippers' 9-2 home record against the Heat since 2001-02 is their second-best against any opponent. Miami, which is 2-1 on its current six-game road swing, has lost four straight on the road in this series.

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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 318861by gman » Nov 13, 2012 - 12:32 PM PST
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This. this is the game im most looking fordward to. the biggest test so far.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 318865by ClipSince7thGrade » Nov 13, 2012 - 01:14 PM PST
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This game is going to be really intense. I can't wait till this game. We're evenly matched and I expect the game to be really close and have the game actually come down to the wire.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 318876by Clipperfn4lf » Nov 13, 2012 - 02:52 PM PST
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Goin to game with no adult supervision gonna get hyphy!!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 318970by gman » Nov 13, 2012 - 07:25 PM PST
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Just throwing it around. clippers are 2 and 1 vs heat since heat became the heat we know now. both wins at home. Now can anyone verify if we are only team with winning record vs them. thanks ahead of time.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319001by Voyeur » Nov 13, 2012 - 10:54 PM PST
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Jamal Crawford likes to play VERY well against the Heat.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319010by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Nov 13, 2012 - 11:57 PM PST
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i am looking forward to this game. the clips need to show the whole nba that staples is their house and that the chances of any team beating us are very slim (yes we lost to gs and cleveland, i know). i expect the clips to blitz the heat early and keep it going for 48 minutes.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319015by GRIFFINSANITY » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:07 AM PST
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If we can limit the Big 3, then we just need to play more D on their 3pt. shooters

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319019by CP3Best » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:11 AM PST
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i think our offense will be really good, DJ will overpower anyone they put against him and if u couple BG and DJ against any of their frontcourt we win by a big margin! I want CP3 to make their defense all day! JCross will be JCross! And I want the trio of ROnny, Hollins, and Barnes to be the BONEYARD of their offense!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319020by cleepers » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:13 AM PST
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We've got to take care of the ball. Two very similar teams... stifling defense and excellent in transition. Whoever has less TO's wins.

Let's start extending our division lead.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319024by clippermitch » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:23 AM PST
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Blake needs to come out and open up a can of whoop ass on Battier. No way Battier can guard him in the post. DJ needs to own the paint and abuse the human Raptor.

The team is well rested and will win this game!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat 11-14-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 319031by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:37 AM PST
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^ i agree. however im sure the double team will come so our perimeter players need to offer an outlet for griffin to kick out for the open shot. DJ might be the X factor for this game. he can have a huge game versus the undersized heat.

                
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Post ID: 319043by Phu7 » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:55 AM PST
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Can't wait for that Jcross on wade and allen

                
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Post ID: 319051by CP3Best » Nov 14, 2012 - 01:05 AM PST
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JCross will burn, BURN Allen, hopefully Allen doesn't return the favor!

                
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Post ID: 319052by Clipperman#5 » Nov 14, 2012 - 01:09 AM PST
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This is my favorite game of the Year, im so giddy about going tomorrow I feel like a little kid right b4 Xmas!!!

                
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Post ID: 319093by kjavis » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:23 AM PST
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tis going to be a hell of a game, if there is a team we gotta shut down the 3pt bombs, then this is the one, can't wait!

                
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Post ID: 319096by fattner » Nov 14, 2012 - 07:10 AM PST
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I truely wish odem comes out and has the best gm in 2 yrs and dJ to destroy there bigs !! Go clippers

                
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Post ID: 319104by pageC4 » Nov 14, 2012 - 09:23 AM PST
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nah, we dont even need to really the lakers keep giving us favors by losing lol

                
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Post ID: 319122by Number2 » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:44 PM PST
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Originally we were +1, then moved to -1, then moved to -1.5, and now Vegas has this game as PK !!! WOW.. PK .. I can't believe it !!..

                
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Post ID: 319124by ClipperSam » Nov 14, 2012 - 12:51 PM PST
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Thanks to Phu 7 me and my wife will spend our Anniversary at the game. Thanks Phu 7. Go Clips!

                
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Post ID: 319127by jarca » Nov 14, 2012 - 01:05 PM PST
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heat scares me cuz of their speed. they can match us with that and lebron is lebron

                
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Post ID: 319132by Paolo310 » Nov 14, 2012 - 01:24 PM PST
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If they put Lebron on Blake on the defensive end, CP3 better pound the rock on the block with Blake. The more we wear LBJ down on D, the less efficient he'll be on offense. Let's let the other guys try and beat us since every time Lebron doesn't have a good game against us, they lose the game. I look for Bledsoe and Willie to secure the perimeter of any open 3's cause I feel like that will be what beats us. Miami thrives on TO's turned into points so I say if we keep our TO's in single digits tonight, we'll easily win by double digits. Oh, and please pound them inside and do not under any circumstances forget to rebound.

                
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Post ID: 319133by Paolo310 » Nov 14, 2012 - 01:29 PM PST
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I just got back from Vegas 2 nights ago and unfortunately I only had $20 in my pocket when I was checking out so I wen't ahead and put it down for the Clippers to win it all at 12/1. They opened the year to win the Western Conference at 15/1 and has now gone down to 4/1. If Vegas believes in us, there's something special brewing in the air!!! Did I mention they have covered every spread in each 5 wins so far.

                
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Post ID: 319146by clippersfan85 » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:24 PM PST
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DJ and Blake should have big games against Miami's bigs. Griffin may get slowed down if Lebron guards him but that still leaves our our guys left over to dominate.

Would be nice to see some consistent minutes from Lamar Odom.

                
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Post ID: 319149by GhostShip » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:28 PM PST
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I think barnes will play big minutes tonight. We need him to guard lebron as much as possible. He is the only one with the size, speed, and attitude to check him.

                
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Post ID: 319152by tense2 » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:33 PM PST
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Heat scares me cuz their really good and they happen to be the NBA Champs.

                
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Post ID: 319153by GhostShip » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:34 PM PST
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Madelyn Burke ‏@MadelynBurke

Dwyane Wade (left foot sprain) is a game-time decision tonight for #Heat vs #Clippers. Didn't go through shootaround, will get X-ray later

                
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Post ID: 319154by Hooch20 » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:36 PM PST
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^

Beat me to it

                
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Post ID: 319155by tense2 » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:37 PM PST
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^Hope he plays, make's the Clippers win that much better.

                
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Post ID: 319157by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:53 PM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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heat scares me cuz of their speed. they can match us with that and lebron is lebron

Heat scares me cuz their really good and they happen to be the NBA Champs.

the clips need to have defensive intensity from the get go and pound the ball inside. taking care of the ball and rotating to their shooters should help us win the game tonight. they may be the champs, but in their 2 losses, they have had trouble rotating to the opposing team's shooters and defending the paint.

                
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Post ID: 319160by Clipperfn4lf » Nov 14, 2012 - 02:58 PM PST
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Yo does Staples Center strictly uphold te 11x17 size limit for posters? I want to make a cardboard head of chris paul's son doing the blake face.

                
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Post ID: 319163by comeONcraig » Nov 14, 2012 - 03:05 PM PST
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drop it to DJ at the post and pound it down low, but then again I can see the Heat respecting his game and double teaming, exploiting his deficiency of being able to pass under pressure. Guard the 3 point line and trust the bigs in guarding the paint, we can fair out and win the game.

                
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Post ID: 319187by JoeClipplet » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:48 PM PST
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This!

Bled needs to play with extreme handles this game as well as DJ

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Post ID: 319188by JoeClipplet » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:49 PM PST
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HAHA I APPROVE!!!

                
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Post ID: 319189by mj_shoefanatic » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:55 PM PST
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I'm still waiting on Lamar to have a breakout game or at least put up 8-10 pts, a few assists and 8-10 rebounds. Wish that could happen tonight vs Heat. We'll need all 10 guys to beat these clowns.

Our 2nd unit should feast once again!!

                
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Post ID: 319190by LotsoHope » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:57 PM PST
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Sucks to hear DWade may not play, I want to beat these guys when they're healthy. As far back as I can remember, we've always limited Wade, so not even sure if him being out is really that big a handicap for Miami. LBJ's 'lowest scoring average' is 23.1 points, that makes you go roll Both he and Bosh will be a force in the game.

If Wade doesn't play, nothing short of a convincing blowout win a la Spurs game last Wed will make me happy Smile Let's do this, Clips!

                
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Post ID: 319191by LetsGoClipShow1 » Nov 14, 2012 - 04:57 PM PST
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We play up to our competition, so I wouldn't worry about the guys not being ready. DWade not playing will be a difference maker, but I am more concerned about rotating out their shooters and not giving up too many threes. We need to dominate the glass and limit our turnovers.

                
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Post ID: 319193by BenjaSands » Nov 14, 2012 - 05:02 PM PST
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This should be an easy win for us. If Wade plays maybe a little bit tougher, but a win nonetheless.

LETS GO

                
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Post ID: 319194by ekker3 » Nov 14, 2012 - 05:20 PM PST
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tonight DeAndre Jordan earns the respect of the league.

                
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Post ID: 319196by ClipperSam » Nov 14, 2012 - 05:24 PM PST
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I say Clippers will win by 5 or more if wade plays. 10 or more if wade is out. Hey I am going to the game tonight. Who else is going? Maybe we can all meet at halftime?

                
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Post ID: 319206by what_up_clipnation83 » Nov 14, 2012 - 05:57 PM PST
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Sucks I can't watch the game(work)....but will DVR it. Clips got this game, I think the starters will pretty much draw even, but our bench will be the deference once again and break the game wide open.

                
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Post ID: 319209by ClipperSam » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:11 PM PST
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Isn't funny how mostly everyone on here was ragging on DJ. Now he is the key to this team.

I was always a supporter of DJ. The same way I am not of VDN. It's ironic that everyone is starting to figure out how important DJ is to the team...

                
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Post ID: 319211by ClipperSam » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:13 PM PST
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^ I hope Vinny soon realizes that DJ needs to be on the Court longer. He should put him in when the other team goes small not take him out... Go DJ. Go Clips!!!

                
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Post ID: 319214by cleepers » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:23 PM PST
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ClipperSam wrote:
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tonight DeAndre Jordan earns the respect of the league.

Isn't funny how mostly everyone on here was ragging on DJ. Now he is the key to this team.

I was always a supporter of DJ. The same way I am not of VDN. It's ironic that everyone is starting to figure out how important DJ is to the team...

Actually, plenty of people have supported DJ and almost everyone has said at some point that his performance will be key to what we can or can't achieve this year.

Personally, I'm just very pleased he's shown such growth this year... must be the coaching wink

                
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Post ID: 319217by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:37 PM PST
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^lol. it must be the coaching indeed

                
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Post ID: 319218by gman » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:45 PM PST
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its time for gmans stat of the night brought to you by gman from the comfort of his house

Clippers are 5 and 0! when the wife goes to work! clippers are 0 and 2! when she is at home. Wife will be at work today.

Its time to bring on the heat!!!

                
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Post ID: 319219by ClipperSam » Nov 14, 2012 - 06:45 PM PST
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^ ya and according to DJ it was the assistant Coach.

                
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tonight DeAndre Jordan earns the respect of the league.

Isn't funny how mostly everyone on here was ragging on DJ. Now he is the key to this team.

I was always a supporter of DJ. The same way I am not of VDN. It's ironic that everyone is starting to figure out how important DJ is to the team...

Actually, plenty of people have supported DJ and almost everyone has said at some point that his performance will be key to what we can or can't achieve this year.

Personally, I'm just very pleased he's shown such growth this year... must be the coaching wink

My recollection was there were a lot of people upset with DJ and his Salary. I was never one of them.

                
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Sports fans and amensia go together like beer and wings. The very embodiment of the "what have you done for me lately" type mentality. These days I see the folks jumping on or off the ship (you know who you all are) and I just roll my eyes and move on.

                
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ClipperSam wrote:
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Isn't funny how mostly everyone on here was ragging on DJ. Now he is the key to this team.

I was always a supporter of DJ. The same way I am not of VDN. It's ironic that everyone is starting to figure out how important DJ is to the team...

Actually, plenty of people have supported DJ and almost everyone has said at some point that his performance will be key to what we can or can't achieve this year.

Personally, I'm just very pleased he's shown such growth this year... must be the coaching wink

My recollection was there were a lot of people upset with DJ and his Salary. I was never one of them.

Yes they were... and it was because there was no way he was a $10,000,000 center when that contract was given to him. If you think he was, then you were very misguided.

The general consensus was that he was being paid according to what he'd grow into, and eventually may even turn out to be a bargain. On the evidence of his play so far (a very small sample size), that appears to be true, so all of the many, many people who believed it have just as much right to gloat as you do.

As far as DJ crediting Ociepka for his improvement... ever heard of a guy named Tex Winter?

As assistant coach, he conceived and implemented the triangle offense under Phil Jackson, yet Jackson gets the credit for 11 championships.

So by your own logic, either Vinny deserves some credit for DJ stepping up his game, or Phil Jackson is not the awesome coach that you believe him to be because his assistant ran the whole offense.

                
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