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Post Subject: Clippers Vs. Raptors 12-09-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 328770by clipper*joe » Dec 08, 2012 - 06:10 PM PST
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Clippers Vs. Raptors Game Preview

By JORDAN GARRETSON Posted Dec 08 2012 10:20PM

The Los Angeles Clippers' starters haven't always performed up to par recently.

It hasn't mattered thanks to their bench.

The surging Clippers seek their sixth straight win on Sunday at the expense of the Toronto Raptors, whom they've beaten 12 consecutive times.

Los Angeles (13-6) has assembled a group of skilled scorers that extends beyond its first five. During the Clippers' five-game win streak, the starters are averaging 62.0 points compared to 59.6 for the opponents' starters, and the team has totaled at least 100 in each game.

The big advantage comes from their reserves, who have averaged 48.2 points during this run and outscored their counterparts by 14.0 per game. That group again came through on Friday when Jamal Crawford scored 21 off the bench and the Clippers won 117-99 over Phoenix.

They couldn't build a lead of more than seven points until the fourth quarter, when the reserves keyed a 17-4 run to blow open the game.

Thirteen of Crawford's points came in the fourth and he hit all four of his free throws, extending his streak to 55 consecutive made free throws dating back to Nov. 3.

The Clippers' bench is averaging 40.7 points - one of the NBA's best marks.

"We owed them a lot," Blake Griffin said of the reserves. Griffin finished with 24 points and a career-high four steals.

"We want to put it away early, but with the way that our team is put together, our second team is just as capable of coming and putting that lead on teams."

More impressive is that Los Angeles' rotation isn't at full strength. Lamar Odom continues to get into shape, having recently lost 12 pounds. He tallied eight points and eight rebounds in 20 minutes of action on Friday.

Chauncey Billups has missed two straight games with an inflamed tendon in his left foot. He already missed the season's first 14 games because of the torn left Achilles he suffered on Feb. 6, and the Clippers are uncertain when he will return.

"It's frustrating, of course, working that hard to come back and have to kind of sit back and wait," Billups told the team's official website. "I know what it is. I respect the process and I'm not down at all."

The Raptors (4-16) have struggled all season, particularly on the road where they're 1-12. Their 131-99 loss at Utah on Friday was their third straight and ninth in 10 games.

The Clippers high-scoring attack (102.3 ppg) could give Toronto all sorts of problems. The Raptors are at the bottom of the league, giving up 103.6 ppg.

They allowed the Jazz to hit 13 of their 23 3-point attempts on Friday, and opponents are hitting 39.5 percent from beyond the arc.

"We gave in to the altitude or whatever it was," coach Dwane Casey said. "I thought we split apart and didn't stay together. Tonight is the first time I have seen us give in."

Los Angeles won last year's meeting, 103-91. http://www.nba.com/games/20121209/TORLAC/gameinfo.html



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Raptors 12-09-12 Official Game Thread Post ID: 328813by GRIFFINSANITY » Dec 08, 2012 - 08:56 PM PST
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my only worry is bargnani

                
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Post ID: 328814by tense2 » Dec 08, 2012 - 09:01 PM PST
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You should worry about Lowry and Johnson, everyone else isn't very good, particularly Bargnani.

                
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Post ID: 328816by CP3Best » Dec 08, 2012 - 09:04 PM PST
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I don't wanna give any driving lanes to what's his name? Uhmm DEROZAN, got it. That guy can score.

                
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Post ID: 328822by hoopfanjd31 » Dec 08, 2012 - 09:56 PM PST
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I think the Raptors may be staying at the hotel where my office holiday party is tonight. I saw their coach when I was there earlier. If I drink enough tonight, I may start running down the hotel hallways talking #%**.

                
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Post ID: 328824by GhostShip » Dec 08, 2012 - 10:17 PM PST
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Sag off Derozan and let him shoot jumpers. He cant shoot with any consistency. We should blow them out

                
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Post ID: 328829by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 08, 2012 - 10:52 PM PST
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They only have one good player and his name is Lowry. Bargs is quite horrendous and Derozan is average at best.

                
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Post ID: 328840by GRIFFINSANITY » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:24 AM PST
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oops... frogot about derozan Rolling eyes

                
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Post ID: 328846by dkongos » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:52 AM PST
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If we can lose to the Hornets & Cavs we can lose to anyone, same concept applies to if we can beat the Heat & Spurs twice, we can beat anyone. We can't take them lightly, no matter how flimsy their team is.

If I had a game plan it would to be...

-Have CP3 and Blake be very aggressive from the start, build up a substantial lead, then use our most efficient bench unit consisting of Ebled, Barnes, and J Crossover.

                
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Post ID: 328860by ClipsGForce » Dec 09, 2012 - 01:22 AM PST
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Oh yes, the rematch for Clippers Head Coach 2009. Clippers starters have some redeeming to do.

                
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Post ID: 328866by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:26 AM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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my only worry is bargnani

You should worry about Lowry and Johnson, everyone else isn't very good, particularly Bargnani.

id worry about lowry, calderon and bargnani due to their 3 pt shooting skills. add kleiza. derozan is just a slasher who cant shoot. just make him shoot jumpers all day

                
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Post ID: 328872by ClipperHeart » Dec 09, 2012 - 08:11 AM PST
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Win number 14 comes today!!

                
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Post ID: 328876by clippermitch » Dec 09, 2012 - 09:17 AM PST
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I'm not worried about any of their players. Defend the 3, take care of the ball, and play with energy and this will be a blowout.

I look for the starters to play better to start the game. Easy win!

                
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Post ID: 328915by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:14 PM PST
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We'll need another complete team effort to beat this subpar team.

I'm looking forward to seeing that bench in feast mode again this afternoon and of course Blake & Chris doing their usual beastin on O & D.

Lets keep this streak going!

                
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Post ID: 328916by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:15 PM PST
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Post ID: 328923by FightOnRon » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:36 PM PST
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This. these guys (Raptors) are not in the NBA 'cause they suck,,anyone can win on any day. A bonafide trap game.

Push it hard in the 1st, humiliate them and they fold for us. We are that good, but have to show it every day/night.

                
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Post ID: 328926by tense2 » Dec 09, 2012 - 12:45 PM PST
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bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
tense2 wrote:
GRIFFINSANITY wrote:
my only worry is bargnani

You should worry about Lowry and Johnson, everyone else isn't very good, particularly Bargnani.

id worry about lowry, calderon and bargnani due to their 3 pt shooting skills. add kleiza. derozan is just a slasher who cant shoot. just make him shoot jumpers all day

Only good 3pt shooters are Calderon, Pietrus and Lowry, not Bargnani.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2013.html

P.S. Lowry maybe out for this game with a right ankle sprain.

                
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Post ID: 328970by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:15 PM PST
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Pietrus will DNP today. Smile http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/224917/Pietrus_Sits_With_Knee_Ten dinitis

                
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Post ID: 328978by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:46 PM PST
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Raptors trying to get dirty with Blake already lol.

                
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Post ID: 328979by Heediot » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:48 PM PST
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DeRozan is one ugly mf'er.

                
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Post ID: 328985by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:55 PM PST
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You know what I'm starting to like about Jordan? Although he isn't making stuff on offense today, the hustle, and how he is just so aggressive on D today.

                
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Post ID: 328986by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:57 PM PST
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I'm beginning to think Caron Butler is a bigger negative than Willie Green. Dude chucks more than anybody on the team and gets beaten on D every single time.

                
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Post ID: 328987by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 09, 2012 - 02:58 PM PST
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He has been since the start of the season to be frank. Willie Green is shooting very well from 3. Does not take dumb shots and is a consistent defender.

                
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Post ID: 328991by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:01 PM PST
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Odom seems to commit 3 of those damn illegal pick fouls a game. Stop bowling over PG's dude damn!

                
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Post ID: 328992by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:02 PM PST
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We sloppy right now. gotta pick it up. I feel bad for DJ, so much hustle and can't finish.

                
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Post ID: 328993by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:02 PM PST
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Yeah, but you get stupid techs on what are actually bad shots. He's been doing a lot of that lately. he's also half-committing on switches that kill us. That Johnson elbow shot he made was cause DJ never committed and stayed in no man's land. Her needs to commit when has to and rely on help defense if he leaves the paint. Guarding no one never helps.

                
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Post ID: 328995by Clipperfan9 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:12 PM PST
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two airballs from jamal wth

                
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Post ID: 328996by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:16 PM PST
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Put Blake back in damn it. Odom has returned to crap form where he's standing around, not playing hard and committing stupid errors. Try him again in the second half and see if he plays better.

                
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Post ID: 328997by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:16 PM PST
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Where are our damn half court plays??? It was either Griffin post-up, or drive and hope for the best.

                
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Post ID: 328998by renshaibob » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:20 PM PST
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We need a token white guy on our team, just sayin

                
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Post ID: 329001by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:23 PM PST
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Barg just fell, come on.

                
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Post ID: 329002by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:24 PM PST
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Why in the hell is Blake not in the game? Vinny is crushing the momentum by not playing the best players more. Blake should be at 35+ minutes a game.

                
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Post ID: 329004by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:25 PM PST
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Okay this is annoying DJ, you either gather your feet and THAN shoot, or just pass it to CP3 or someone else, this is embarrassing.

                
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Post ID: 329005by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:26 PM PST
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DJ just ice cold today.

                
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Post ID: 329006by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:27 PM PST
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No we don't unless his last name is Budinger, Novak or Dunleavy JR lol

                
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Post ID: 329007by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:28 PM PST
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MJSF wrote:
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We need a token white guy on our team, just sayin

No we don't unless his last name is Budinger, Novak or Dunleavy JR lol

I would take Kirilenko over all of those guys.

                
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Post ID: 329008by GRIFFINSANITY » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:29 PM PST
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MJSF wrote:
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We need a token white guy on our team, just sayin

No we don't unless his last name is Budinger, Novak or Dunleavy JR lol

or kevin love Razz

                
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Post ID: 329012by ClipperB23 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:31 PM PST
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Ralph jinxed Jamal!!! It's all good though

                
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Post ID: 329013by GRIFFINSANITY » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:31 PM PST
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! JCRAW MISSED THE FT!

                
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Post ID: 329014by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:32 PM PST
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WHAT the hell are we doing? More so what is VINNY doing? There is no adjustment to what the opposition is doing. Where the freak are the plays???

                
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Post ID: 329015by renshaibob » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:32 PM PST
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with our shooters playing against their zone should be hell of easy

                
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Post ID: 329016by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:33 PM PST
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If we lose it's on Vinny. Obviously guys like DJ and Butler have played terrible but if Vinny had just had better rotations and played Blake 5 extra minutes this is a 10-15 point lead.

                
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Fire Vinny.

                
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Post ID: 329018by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:35 PM PST
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Why was Blake benched so long after he had 12 or 14 in the 1st quarter? Dude is freaking 23 years old and fit as hell!

                
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Nice play. What in the hell is THAT???

                
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Post ID: 329022by renshaibob » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:37 PM PST
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VDN doesn't know how to make quick adjustments

                
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Post ID: 329023by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:38 PM PST
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Man just a mess of a game to a garbage team. Bleh.

                
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Please get a real coach who can scheme against a zone and make adjustments. This is inexcusable.

                
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Post ID: 329025by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:39 PM PST
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Wow I'm fu**ing pissed. DJ, Butler and Vinny all need to be called out for their lack of manhood at halftime. I can't believe this sh*t... 8 point lead turns into down 4 or 5 going into the half vs the RAPTORS!?!?

                
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Vinny is just stupid. If our guys aren't playing well he is not gonna be able to do anything. I want to see some... Something, ANYTHING.

                
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