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Post ID: 329033by Icecoldclipper » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:40 PM PST
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Post ID: 329034by renshaibob » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:40 PM PST
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Wow so stupid, copy some of Denver Nugets plays, they know how to attack a zone. With our bigs its easy because 1 will always be free on the base line for a quick ally oop.

                
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Post ID: 329035by 82-0 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:41 PM PST
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I've seen enough of Vinny's ****. Love how he arrogantly puts the players on blast after the win yesterday and then comes out today and demonstrates his complete inability to adjust or scheme against a zone.

Hey Vinny, stop blaming the players for everything and take a look in the mirror.

                
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Post ID: 329036by clippermitch » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:42 PM PST
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Blame the starters. The bench extended that lead.

                
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Post ID: 329037by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:42 PM PST
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This reminds me somewhat of some other games: NOH, CLE, games, which we lost, cause our coach sat on his *** an didn't do anything, now in situations like THIS is when we need our coach, so why is he just sitting there???

                
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Post ID: 329038by clippermitch » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:42 PM PST
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Blame VDN for taking Bledsoe out. Crawford is off and Bledsoe is playing well.

                
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Post ID: 329039by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:43 PM PST
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Vinny should have subbed out Paul for Bledsoe. Now we're down at the half smh.

                
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Post ID: 329040by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:43 PM PST
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Yea... Bledsoe+Griffin were playing very well for the most part yet neither got anywhere near enough minutes. Also why put DJ and Butler back in so quickly when both were playing like trash and Green played pretty solid early on??

                
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Post ID: 329041by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:44 PM PST
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AS well as he's motivated our players I want Vinny GONE after this season.

                
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Post ID: 329042by 82-0 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:44 PM PST
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Because he has no idea what he's doing.

Our success is literally ALL on the players. If they're not doing well, there's no direction and no system to get them back on track and settled down.

                
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Post ID: 329043by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:45 PM PST
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Because DJ and Butler are "starters" and Vinny doesn't wanna hurt their feelings.

                
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Post ID: 329044by Icecoldclipper » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:45 PM PST
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Jordan, Butler, Paul, Crawford looking slow this game

                
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Post ID: 329045by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:46 PM PST
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82-0 wrote:
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This reminds me somewhat of some other games: NOH, CLE, games, which we lost, cause our coach sat on his *** an didn't do anything, now in situations like THIS is when we need our coach, so why is he just sitting there???
Because he has no idea what he's doing.

Our success is literally ALL on the players. If they're not doing well, there's no direction and no system to get them back on track and settled down.

SO why hasn't the FO done something to pry one of the good coaches like the Jeff VG, SVG, or all the other ones.

                
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Post ID: 329046by 82-0 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:46 PM PST
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Yea... Bledsoe+Griffin were playing very well for the most part yet neither got anywhere near enough minutes. Also why put DJ and Butler back in so quickly when both were playing like trash and Green played pretty solid early on??
Because DJ and Butler are "starters" and Vinny doesn't wanna hurt their feelings.
Yeah, that's another thing... Vinny is so fake. He'll call out our starters for lack of effort after wins only, and god forbid the starters suck, because Vinny's really too scared to bench any of them.

                
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Post ID: 329047by 82-0 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:47 PM PST
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Because he fluked his way to beating the Grizzlies in the playoffs (again, it was ALL on the players), and suddenly that makes him "the greatest coach in Clipper history," which is why he's still sitting on his ass this year.

                
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Post ID: 329048by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:47 PM PST
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This is why we need a more logical coach if we expect to go all the way. Vinny The Black has way too many Dumbleavy moments. roll

                
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Just to show how STUPID our "coach" is we're scoring only 44 pts in the 1st half when other teams without as much firepower as we have torched them all day long. This is unbelievable.

                
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Post ID: 329050by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:48 PM PST
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pretty laughable at some of the comments here.

First of all, BG played over 17 minutes in the first half. That's all but 7 minutes of a whole half. BG needs his rest so lets not pretend BG's chances of doing what he did would not have been hampered if he played a full half without rest. Second of all, this "scheming" bullshit talk like you're coach on a pro level is laughable. Crawford is shooting like ****, and BG getting caught in the paint with nowhere to go or pass is on the player, not coach. DJ playing like crap and trying to rebound behind a guy is as productive as the load I dropped and flushed this morning. The shooting is bad, the stupid fouls are bad (i.e. Butler), and players playing like they just entered the league (i.e. DJ) is why we're down right now.

With that said, you guys act like this game is lost already. lol

I swear, you just have to laugh. Th

                
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Post ID: 329051by Voyeur » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:48 PM PST
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Ugh. I'm forced to watch the Toronto call of the game. Not fun. We'd better put those announcers in a bad mood in the second half.

                
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At least Dumbleavy had a yellow book full of plays. roll

                
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Post ID: 329053by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:49 PM PST
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CP3Best wrote:
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Yea... Bledsoe+Griffin were playing very well for the most part yet neither got anywhere near enough minutes. Also why put DJ and Butler back in so quickly when both were playing like trash and Green played pretty solid early on??
Because DJ and Butler are "starters" and Vinny doesn't wanna hurt their feelings.

Even when CP3 or Blake play like trash with no heart they should be benched. Like you said he seems to kiss our starters asses and base rotations on reputation and experience rather than how players are actually playing. CP3 could have 12 bad plays in a row but not get pulled but Bledsoe has 1 or 2 in a row and gets benched. I don't like the double standards.

                
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Post ID: 329054by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:50 PM PST
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Joe the reason that ultimately falls on coach at the end of the day is because he has the power to pull guys like Crawford, Butler and DJ who are playing like ass. Why keep playing them??? They aren't going to bench themselves, so while it sucks they are playing bad we have capable guys ready to step up.... so bench them.

                
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Post ID: 329055by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:50 PM PST
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That doesn't make make any sense. So if the guys ain't playing well, and VDN isn't going to be able to do anything based on that, how is it that VDN is the stupid one?

lol

                
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Post ID: 329056by Grillinnap » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:52 PM PST
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Blake Griffin

                
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Post ID: 329057by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:52 PM PST
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Why does Griffin just end up with the ball in the post every single time? Teams will adjust to that EASILY, Crawford is forced to create for himself, and the only play I saw was an ISO, and a Pick 'n Roll. It is the coach's duty to make adjustments which did not exist in the 2nd qtr.

                
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clipper*joe wrote:
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Vinny is just stupid. If our guys aren't playing well he is not gonna be able to do anything. I want to see some... Something, ANYTHING.

That doesn't make make any sense. So if the guys ain't playing well, and VDN isn't going to be able to do anything based on that, how is it that VDN is the stupid one?

lol

The players are forced to shoot CONTESTED shots. cause the plays do not exist, to get the players OPEN shots.

                
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Post ID: 329059by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:55 PM PST
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Of course, and when we win today, I expect you to say:

"that win ultimately falls on coach at the end of the day"

...But you won't.

                
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Post ID: 329060by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:57 PM PST
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If we win cause he makes some nice adjustments and motivates the guys to play better defense i will say, "that win ultimately falls on coach at the end of the day"

                
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Post ID: 329061by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 03:58 PM PST
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Nice D adjustments Vinny. Motivating the guys too.

                
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CP3Best wrote:
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This is why we need a more logical coach if we expect to go all the way. Vinny The Black has way too many Dumbleavy moments. roll
At least Dumbleavy had a yellow book full of plays. roll

Supposedly Vinny has the same. lol

                
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Post ID: 329063by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:00 PM PST
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OMG! it took us a minute to take the lead! Fire the stupid coach!

                
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Post ID: 329064by Heediot » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:00 PM PST
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good start for the 2nd half.

                
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Post ID: 329067by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:00 PM PST
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I still don't see and adjustments on Offense, if defense keeps playing like this though... we'll be fine

                
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Post ID: 329068by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:01 PM PST
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Joe the reason that ultimately falls on coach at the end of the day is because he has the power to pull guys like Crawford, Butler and DJ who are playing like ass. Why keep playing them??? They aren't going to bench themselves, so while it sucks they are playing bad we have capable guys ready to step up.... so bench them.

Of course, and when we win today, I expect you to say:

"that win ultimately falls on coach at the end of the day"

...But you won't.

Not true. I always praise Vinny when he does good things because they usually go hand in hand with wins. I think this is his worst rotation game in weeks. I was shocked Griffin was on the bench 7 or 8 minutes straight. That Butler and DJ were brought back early 2nd quarter after playing so bad. Or that Green wasn't in for Crawford while Crawford was bricking and airballing every shot.

                
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Post ID: 329069by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:02 PM PST
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Wow, so that was all motivation by the coach that made the guys play well?

Is everyone this wishy washy? I'm here to tell you every play you see is not controlled by the coach.

                
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Post ID: 329070by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:05 PM PST
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I want Hollins in the game. DJ sucks.

                
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Post ID: 329071by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:06 PM PST
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Less than 7 minutes and he started and ended the half like most stars do. Again, just because people think they think a specific player should be taken out for another specific player doesn't make it the holy grail to winning the game. We've won handsomely with the rotations so far, not sure what the deal is.

                
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By the way, where are the coaches that wanted Butler out? Huh? Huh? Anyone? Thought so.

                
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Post ID: 329073by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:08 PM PST
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Have we made a single 3 today?

                
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Post ID: 329074by clippermitch » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:08 PM PST
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Butler and Barnes has to play better D. They always let their man wide open on 3s.

                
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Post ID: 329078by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:11 PM PST
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WTF is up with all these wide open 3's. DJ, Butler and CP3 need to be benched immediately

                
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Post ID: 329079by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:11 PM PST
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Can we defend the 3 ball yet?

                
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Post ID: 329080by mj_shoefanatic » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:12 PM PST
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Paul making some questionable decisions this game Is Lowry that good on D?

                
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Post ID: 329081by CP3Best » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:12 PM PST
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This sucks, Paul shouldn't take stupid risks like that.

                
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Why is there "WOOOOO!" after each CP3 basket? Is it because he is from North Carolina like Ric Flair is (well, he was billed from NC)?

                
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Post ID: 329083by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:13 PM PST
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You coaches see how we lost the lead? Cp3 makes a foolish cross court pass when he had 2 better options in front of him? Was that a designed play? I dare you to respond, 82-0! I dare you. That Bargs three was a stepback where BG slacked off. Was that a defensive scheme, 82-0?

You guys are full of ****! That's why you're armchair coaching in the leisure of home and not out on the bench "scheming".

                
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They been doing that for him since New Orleans. Ric Flair for sure.

                
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Post ID: 329085by Clippersfan86 » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:16 PM PST
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The new Clippers curse... where lottery teams bang down 15-20 threes on like 60+ percent regularly vs us.

                
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Post ID: 329086by clipper*joe » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:16 PM PST
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You see that DeRozen three? That defense was great on that possession but any of you coaches think that was a failed scheme? roll

                
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Post ID: 329087by clippermitch » Dec 09, 2012 - 04:17 PM PST
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It looks like the bench has to bail out the starters today again.

                
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