Willie Green sucks

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Amnesty_David_Stern
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Remove Green from the team and put Bledsoe in at starting SG until Billups returns. This guy does nothing at all. It's Ryan Gomes all over again. He's got a horrible shooting % and is stunting the growth of Bledsoe. What's the worse thing that happens? We have to sub in Jamal Crawford whose amazing for Bledsoe after 4-5 minutes in the 1st quarter? We do that anyways.

Green is better suited off the bench. He does not spread the floor, everybody knows he sucks, can only hit an open jumper MAYBE, he can't pass, penetrate, rebound, play D or anything. We basically are running a 4 man team when he's on the floor.

cleepers
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Nonsense.

CapsNClips
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If we had a real SG we would blow teams out by like 26, but we don't so that will never happen.

Clippersfan86
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Bledsoe has been to erratic to trust in a starter role lately but Matt Barnes should be starting. People say the issue is that the bench will suffer but it won't. Look at the game where Butler sat out vs GS last week and Barnes played about 40 minutes and had a monster game. Let the guy play a ton of minutes, he's in the best shape of anybody on the team. I'd play him 35 minutes a game until Billups returns and take Green's sorry butt out of the lineup.

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U sound sleepy bro, NO D !?!? He is strong and has bounce for his size, he was doing excellent against Kobe, he's shooting 38% for three third best on his career yeah he's undersized but he does little things right and doesn't turn the ball over, or tries to hard to make plays for himself, he's doing his role just fine spot up cut and play D that's all we need from him

CapsNClips
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We have the most wins in the NBA, but if we had a real SG we would have the mostestest wins in the NBA, that's like WHOA!

Clippersfan86
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Sorry but defending Green purely because he can shoot the 3 isn't logical. It's like he can't play D, rebound, score a wide open layup, pass, avoid fumbling the ball but he can knock down an occasional 3!

cleepers
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Dude, cut the guy some slack. He's a 3rd stringer who's in because our 2nd stringer happens to be the bench's leading scorer.

He's getting $1.3mil... that's about 1/3 what we were paying Foye, and they're pretty similar.

Willie's not our starting 2... people need to stop thinking he is. He is a durable, consistent role player who is providing value for money with a smile on his face.

Are there any other teams with a better record than us who have a dude making the minimum starting for them on a regular?

Clippersfan86
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Well if Green was in the role he was brought here to be in I'd have no issue. I'm being forced to judge him as a starting SG obviously based on the circumstances. Without Green playing I have no doubt we would be a couple games better which yes is nitpicking but he just annoys me.

cleepers
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^ If he were in the role he was brought here to be in, his arse would be making a very good living polishing pine. wink

=Om@R=
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Is not like he's a huge impact anyways our REAL shooting guard well.. Our starting 2guard is hurt and the reason they start him is to have more firepower out the bench he's not needed to be a big factor with the other 4 guys that start with him .

Clippersfan86
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Omar I completely understand. Doesn't mean it doesn't piss me off watching the guy brick shot after shot, fumble the ball to the other team and get burned on defense nightly.

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But is not really impact plays that will hurt our team, tonight he wasn't making ish' or playing his best, I think how things are now we r working just fine

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And who will be the backup PG? Horrible idea.

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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sarcasm? lol. i like it. just a tidbit, the clips have won 5 games by 25 or more this season. matches the franchise record set in 1990-91. we still have 47 games left. but im sure willie green brought this terrible situation on this team. smh. give the guy a break. hes a third stringer trying to play starting sg. and no to bledsoe being the starting sg. just chill out, billups is coming back soon.

toohipcliptoslip
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Willie is a third stringer but we've been winning when he starts. If Billups gets hurt in the PO's he will have experience as a starter.

Keatonsays
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I'm sure we can all agree that Willie Green shouldn't be starting for any team in the NBA, let alone the best team in the league. However, he's not there because he deserves to be, but because there's no other option really.

Starting Bledsoe at the 2 without another point guard on the roster would be a pretty bad idea. We need him to come in and give CP a break, not get all tuckered out at the same time as him, especially considering the way he plays.

Starting Matt Barnes or Caron Butler at the 2 is also a pretty bad idea imo. Neither of them are good ball handlers, and shouldn't have the ball in their hands for more than a couple of seconds each, to either shoot or make a quick pass. Willie Green shouldn't have the ball in his hands either really (shouldn't even be in the game if you ask me) but he's a better ball handler than both. Having either Butler or Barnes at the 2 would probably lead to more turnovers I'd think.

We can't get rid of the guy because our team chemistry is probably the best in the league right now, and CP personally requested his acquisition. Moving him is not an option. We'll all have to bare the pain of Green for at least a week or 2 longer, then he'll be back to logging in those DNP's.

Also, you gotta cut the guy some slack. He's was shooting 40% from deep until this recent shooting slump over the past 4 or 5 games, and he's a lot more athletic than anybody would ever guess (which doesn't really count for anything but i'm just looking for positives). Also, we're winning, so there's no point in complaining about it really when we don't have many other options really.

clippermitch
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Willie is a pro. He defends and takes open shots. CP likes and trusts him.

Can we use a better starting SG? Sure. But with the starting unit, Green doesn't need the touches and he does what he is asked.

I've come to terms that he's just out there to play D. Anything else that he does on Offense is a bonus!

what_up_clipnation83
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Maybe when Grant comes back this month, after a couple of games they move grant into the starting lineup and move butler to the 2 guard spot until Billups get back.

Voyeur
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One of our better plays last night was BG to Green. Green was actually moving to the basket when BG was doubled in the post. It is frustrating that Green misses so many open jumpers. At times he seems to even stop our momentum, but if he can be active like he was last night, he can be a positive. Having said that, I can't wait for Chauncey to come back. lol

wessleejr
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Green is just their because chauncey is not playing but at least we are winning in fact 14 of those 17 win Green was our starter, what else you can ask. Our two loses was a team's off night not just one player.

jarca
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I don't mind green at all! He does his best with his talent. Plus he was signed not to be our starter but probably the 10th man

Clippersfan86
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That is true that Willie has improved a ton with off the ball movement. I just want him to stop freaking bricking open shots so regularly.

FightOnRon
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Yeah,,that damn Willie has allowed us to lose 7 games,,if not for him we would be undefeated.

CP3 wanted him,,CP3 trusts him,,that is how it goes.

gman
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Imagine if we had a real sg...we would be 19 games over .500 and hav the second best record in nba..

Would have gone on a 17 game.winning streak and had only the third undefeated month in nba history!!

hoopfanjd31
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This. Agree with all of this.

GhostShip
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Green on our team is fine but playoff time he better not see the floor if billups and hill are back

Silasie
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^

When Billups was playing I don't Green got any minutes at all, so no worries there.

CP3Heliflopter
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People expect way too much from a vet min SG brought in to be a 3rd string SG.

clippertime
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I think Willie has done a fine job, especially on defense, we don't even need billups. Bringing Bled off the bench would take all that energy away from the second unit, everything, including the scoring balance.....its perfect as is.

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