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Post ID: 378366by Clippersfan86 » May 01, 2013 - 07:40 PM PST
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Again I'd do anything. Take Turkoglu.. he's only got a year or two left and with CP3 feeding him I'm sure he can find his shot again.



                
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Post ID: 378368by pageC4 » May 01, 2013 - 07:46 PM PST
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Butler has been like this all year game 1 was butler at his best then games 2-5 are his regular self, watch game 6 he may actuallly show up. The nhe will go on another 3 game hiatus

                
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Post ID: 378393by lobcityhawaii » May 01, 2013 - 09:09 PM PST
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pageC4 wrote:
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yeah. butler can't do anything against prince. sad.
Butler has been like this all year game 1 was butler at his best then games 2-5 are his regular self, watch game 6 he may actuallly show up. The nhe will go on another 3 game hiatus

Well inconsistent Butler better be on fire on Friday. He is due for a big game.

                
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Post ID: 378417by TheDude » May 01, 2013 - 11:18 PM PST
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Bledsoe and DJ for Afflalo and Vucevic would be amazing. Then let Billups and Odom walk. Hire an elite coach. If all those happen we are in AMAZING shape,all the sudden.

I been dreaming about this trade but I doubt Magic would bite unless the Clippers include some draft picks and money

If we have to throw in a 1st round pick, no problem. Our 24th, 25th pick, whatever ends up being, is not that great. A lot of teams would rather get an early 2nd rounder than a late 1st since you don't have to give guaranteed deals to those guys.

This is a perfect trade for us and it's pretty darn good for them too. They get two young guys to build on in exchange for one young guy and one big contract. If we added Caron's expiring contract and take back Harrington that would sweeten the pot and also not hurt us at all. Harrington is one of the dumbest MF's in the league but he can still play and would offer some versatility that we don't currently have.

                
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Post ID: 378457by pageC4 » May 02, 2013 - 10:11 AM PST
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lobcityhawaii wrote:
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yeah. butler can't do anything against prince. sad.
Butler has been like this all year game 1 was butler at his best then games 2-5 are his regular self, watch game 6 he may actuallly show up. The nhe will go on another 3 game hiatus

Well inconsistent Butler better be on fire on Friday. He is due for a big game.

i think that even if he does show up this series should be a huge eye opener to our front office that guys like butler and billups just are not the answer anymore. We need shooyers at the SF and SG positions. And these ppsitions demand more consistency. If we get a guy that can contribute 14 ppg on a nightly basis that would make opposing defenses not able to focus entirely on paul. I know in the regular season chauncey and carons inconsistency was not as evident or maybe it just didnt affect us much, but now we see how these two and DJ are costing us.

                
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Post ID: 378475by slipperyball » May 02, 2013 - 11:38 AM PST
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The regular season, like baseball, is a long drawn out affair, and often means nothing in the playoffs especially with injuries playing a bigger and bigger part in a team's success or failure. Since BG arrived, he has never been given ANY help in the front court. His career will be very short if this issue is not resolved immediately. It's a front court of one! SAD indeed...It's BG with a ghost making 40 mil. Thinking that LO was going to plug a big need was fantasy from day one. The Clippers are BG and CP3 with some solid role players. But the big void is at 5, and unless it is filled next year, Griffin is toast.

                
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Post ID: 378492by namzug » May 02, 2013 - 01:27 PM PST
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Everyone on here is quick to turn on DJ, the guy was putting in his work during the offseason and started out strong. He then started getting seated for an out of shape LO, what is that gonna do to his confidence? He is playing as if he is on a tight wire, if he makes a mistake he gets benched where billups and butler can make three or four and get applauded for one good play by vinny. i blame vinny for derailing dj, and would like to see what a coach like sloan or svg could do with dj before letting him go.

                
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Post ID: 378493by Clippersfan86 » May 02, 2013 - 01:34 PM PST
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This is the freaking NBA and he's a 25 year old man. If he doesn't want that heavy responsibility than don't fu**ing drive the price of your contract up. We offered him 7 mill a year and he turned it down. Sorry I don't believe in babying a 5th year player who makes 10.5+ million a year.

                
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Post ID: 378499by botev1921 » May 02, 2013 - 01:54 PM PST
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I am starting to think CP3 should be fed up with DJ by now. If CP3 says - trade him or I won't sign, what would you prefer?

                
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Post ID: 378500by lobcityhawaii » May 02, 2013 - 01:58 PM PST
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Of course trade DJ.

                
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Post ID: 378512by tense2 » May 02, 2013 - 02:40 PM PST
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Everyone on here is quick to turn on DJ, the guy was putting in his work during the offseason and started out strong. He then started getting seated for an out of shape LO, what is that gonna do to his confidence? He is playing as if he is on a tight wire, if he makes a mistake he gets benched where billups and butler can make three or four and get applauded for one good play by vinny. i blame vinny for derailing dj, and would like to see what a coach like sloan or svg could do with dj before letting him go.

This is the freaking NBA and he's a 25 year old man. If he doesn't want that heavy responsibility than don't fu**ing drive the price of your contract up. We offered him 7 mill a year and he turned it down. Sorry I don't believe in babying a 5th year player who makes 10.5+ million a year.

I'm sure, if your being honest, you would have turned it down too. wink

                
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Post ID: 378515by CP3Best » May 02, 2013 - 02:50 PM PST
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The point is with DJ's contract he's not performing anywhere close to what he should for the money he's getting. 6 pts 2 rebs per game in these playoffs, I say to him go F**K yourself if I'm the coach, CP3, or anyone else.

                
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Post ID: 378519by tense2 » May 02, 2013 - 02:54 PM PST
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And I'd say the same thing to our current starting sg and sf...only louder, lol.

Both Below average at their respective positions.

                
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Post ID: 378520by Clippersfan86 » May 02, 2013 - 02:55 PM PST
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Tense, Billups and Caron are in the same boat. We have literally THREE worthless starters right now AND our bench has suddenly lost confidence.

                
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Post ID: 378522by tense2 » May 02, 2013 - 02:57 PM PST
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Yup, I know.

                
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Post ID: 378526by lobcityhawaii » May 02, 2013 - 02:59 PM PST
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Yes, but Caron can and is due for a big game. We've seen that all year. Billups hardly played so I don't expect much from him. Willie has to start. VDN has no balls to bench him.

                
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lobcityhawaii wrote:
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Tense, Billups and Caron are in the same boat. We have literally THREE worthless starters right now AND our bench has suddenly lost confidence.

Yes, but Caron can and is due for a big game. We've seen that all year. Billups hardly played so I don't expect much from him. Willie has to start. VDN has no balls to bench him.

Caron IS still below average while you wait for his "big" game. Smile

                
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Post ID: 378539by Clippersfan86 » May 02, 2013 - 03:08 PM PST
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So basically right now we are the CP3 and Blake show and one guy has a serious ankle sprain and back spasms. Fu**ing awesome! Crawford can dominate the regular season all he wants but that doesn't mean jack **** if he disappears in the playoffs.

                
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Post ID: 378541by lobcityhawaii » May 02, 2013 - 03:09 PM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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Tense, Billups and Caron are in the same boat. We have literally THREE worthless starters right now AND our bench has suddenly lost confidence.

Yes, but Caron can and is due for a big game. We've seen that all year. Billups hardly played so I don't expect much from him. Willie has to start. VDN has no balls to bench him.

Caron IS still below average while you wait for his "big" game. Smile

Well when I say big game, I mean at least outplay and outscore Prince. Caron can easily get around 12-15 points and thats what we need from him besides helping out on the rebounding more.

                
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Post ID: 378595by hoopfanjd31 » May 02, 2013 - 05:52 PM PST
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I Crawford's defense, ever since he went off in game 2, he's been guarded by Tony Allen the vast majority of the time he's been on the floor. Allen is one of the best perimeter defenders I've even seen in my life. I honestly think he's one of the best on ball defenders ever. Yet, we keep running ISOs with Jamal against him. Maybe we should run Jamal off a few screens, get him free in the corner for a 3 or something? Try something different to get him going. Having him try to take Allen off the dribble is just dumb.

                
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Post ID: 378772by toohipcliptoslip » May 03, 2013 - 04:21 AM PST
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This guy is a great bench player but who wants a $10mil second stringer? $3 mill is a good price.

I don't understand why he can't learn. Basketball isn't differential equations. It's over paid undereducated guys dressed in underwear throwing a leather sphere through a metal hoop and getting lots of chicks.

I'm not saying he should be great but this guy has delusions of adequacy. Mediocre would be a big improvement. Maybe he's lost faith in himself. Remember Ryan Gomes? His own mother said he's lazy. He has no heart.GET HIM A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST. He has all the physical skills to be good. Unlike pimpin' basketball is easy

                
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Post ID: 378799by hoopfanjd31 » May 03, 2013 - 11:50 AM PST
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I really doubt Orlando would make that trade, since its already clear Vucevic is better than DJ. But I really want him gone. I might even entertain a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Biyombo if it included DJ. I think Biyombo actually will become a solid defender.

                
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Post ID: 379856by Clippersfan86 » May 04, 2013 - 08:57 AM PST
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Good news guys. Ramona Shelburne tweeted this morning regarding DJ.

"DeAndre Jordan has more fans in front offices than you'd imagine."

If true that's the best news all day that he still has some value.

                
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Post ID: 379934by A7XDreamTheaterClipps » May 04, 2013 - 12:25 PM PST
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I'm sure Michael Jordan would love to have DeKwame Jordan as his new starting center next season.

                
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Post ID: 379937by Grillinnap » May 04, 2013 - 12:31 PM PST
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That's because they know he can improve with the right coach.

                
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Post ID: 379967by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 01:16 PM PST
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I've actually had my eye on Henderson for some time. Dude could be seriously good on the right team.

                
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Post ID: 380034by realbull17 » May 04, 2013 - 03:19 PM PST
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lets get jason collins. Smile

                
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Post ID: 380037by tense2 » May 04, 2013 - 03:25 PM PST
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cleepers wrote:
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I really doubt Orlando would make that trade, since its already clear Vucevic is better than DJ. But I really want him gone. I might even entertain a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Biyombo if it included DJ. I think Biyombo actually will become a solid defender.

I've actually had my eye on Henderson for some time. Dude could be seriously good on the right team.

Sorry Cleepers but Henderson...ugh. Better choices out there.

                
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Post ID: 380049by lobcityhawaii » May 04, 2013 - 03:41 PM PST
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Alright, good find. That's great news 86!

                
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Post ID: 380167by toohipcliptoslip » May 04, 2013 - 09:50 PM PST
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Only if DJ can grow some balls

                
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Post ID: 380174by ClippersDA » May 04, 2013 - 10:11 PM PST
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DJ needs to go but I know he will be a monster with the right coach...really too bad. I bet he shoots well from Elaine next season on a new team like Reggie

                
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Post ID: 380177by ClippersDA » May 04, 2013 - 10:16 PM PST
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*the line

                
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Post ID: 380184by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 10:36 PM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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I really doubt Orlando would make that trade, since its already clear Vucevic is better than DJ. But I really want him gone. I might even entertain a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Biyombo if it included DJ. I think Biyombo actually will become a solid defender.

I've actually had my eye on Henderson for some time. Dude could be seriously good on the right team.

Sorry Cleepers but Henderson...ugh. Better choices out there.

Don't get me wrong, mate... I wouldn't want to sell the farm to get him, but I think he'd shine in better surroundings.

                
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Post ID: 380186by tense2 » May 04, 2013 - 10:41 PM PST
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^I like FA *Martell Webster a bit more. I think we could get him for a good price.

http://www.thenbageek.com/players/191-martell-webster

*corrected my foo-pa.

                
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Post ID: 380188by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 10:49 PM PST
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^ Don't know him. Do you have any links?

Seriously, I googled him and all I get is Montel Williams wanting to cash my check... or get me on his show to reveal that I'm a transvestite who's f***** the lesbian midget in the next trailer park over.

EDIT: Aaah... the extra "L" made a difference. His numbers look pretty good. Also, I'm gonna be on TV! Don't think the wife will be too happy... she'll probably throw a chair or two. I wonder what panties I should wear.

                
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Post ID: 380189by wessleejr » May 04, 2013 - 10:52 PM PST
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You need all purpose fertilizer to make it grow. Smile

                
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Post ID: 380190by tense2 » May 04, 2013 - 10:54 PM PST
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Stop it man, your killing me. See my link above plus:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... tma02.html

                
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Post ID: 380191by lucas26 » May 04, 2013 - 10:58 PM PST
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I dont think you can increase the level of bromance already on this team.

                
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Post ID: 380192by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 10:59 PM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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^ Don't know him. Do you have any links?

Seriously, I googled him and all I get is Montel Williams wanting to cash my check... or get me on his show to reveal that I'm a transvestite who's f***** the lesbian midget in the next trailer park over.

Stop it man, your killing me. See my link above plus:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... tma02.html

Yeah, I got it, dude.

Here was my response...

Aaah... the extra "L" made a difference. His numbers look pretty good. Also, I'm gonna be on TV! Don't think the wife will be too happy... she'll probably throw a chair or two. I wonder what panties I should wear.

                
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^Oops, just realize I had a brain fart...meant Martell Webster, lol.

                
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Post ID: 380194by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 11:06 PM PST
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Now THAT dude, I know. He had a pretty good year, and I agree that he's under he radar enough that he'd be cheap.

But about the Montel show... how do you look in lipstick, mate?

                
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cleepers wrote:
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^Oops, just realize I had a brain fart...meant Martell Webster, lol.

Now THAT dude, I know. He had a pretty good year, and I agree that he's under he radar enough that he'd be cheap.

But about the Montel show... how do you look in lipstick, mate?

Picture Don Knotts in ruby red.

                
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Post ID: 380196by CapsNClips » May 04, 2013 - 11:16 PM PST
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We should a player that is the complete polar opposite of DJ. Lets see if Verajao qualifies. Energy? Check. Passion? Check. Rebounder? Check. Not a liability at the FT line? Check.

Does anybody on here not want this guy? I can understand he's a little injury prone, but atleast he doesn't have a broken heart like DJ.

                
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tense2 wrote:
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^Oops, just realize I had a brain fart...meant Martell Webster, lol.

Now THAT dude, I know. He had a pretty good year, and I agree that he's under he radar enough that he'd be cheap.

But about the Montel show... how do you look in lipstick, mate?

Picture Don Knotts in ruby red.

You're hired!

Don Knotts is WAY hotter than most of the "women" on Montel or Springer's shows.

                
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Post ID: 380199by cleepers » May 04, 2013 - 11:23 PM PST
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I think you're selling DJ short in the "energy" department. He has plenty of energy to interview-bomb other players, make "funny" youtube videos and tweet photos of teammates sleeping... m********* must be worn out!

The clowns are the hardest working guys in the circus... but unfortunately, they're still the clowns.

                
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Post ID: 380201by Amnesty_David_Stern » May 04, 2013 - 11:29 PM PST
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Dream scenario, Brandon Jennings leaves the Bucks, we send Bledsoe, DJ for Larry Sanders, maybe some fillers on both ends. I'd take back Mike Dunleavy if it came down to it. Much better contributor than Butler.

Bucks get a starting PG and a starting C back, to sweeten the pot I'd toss in a couple 2nd rounders.

                
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Post ID: 380232by toohipcliptoslip » May 05, 2013 - 04:45 AM PST
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Varajao was signed to a 6 yr deal with the Cavs in 2009. $42 mill. Frogs will fly

                
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Post ID: 380241by lobcityhawaii » May 05, 2013 - 07:54 AM PST
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Agree. Webster would be good. Athletic SF that can shoot 3's pretty well and defend.

                
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Post ID: 380254by lucas26 » May 05, 2013 - 11:40 AM PST
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We need to keep DJ. He is still a valuable asset and I doubt the FO will make a knee jerk decision on his fate as a Clipper. He may not have met expectations YET but his best is still ahead. His learning curve is a little slower than most but he'll come around. I dont think trading a player immediately after a poor post season is a wise business decision. Plus, this team will not do anything until CP3 makes his decision. Everything goes through CP3. BTW, wasnt DJ suppose to be the next Tyson Chandler?

                
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Post ID: 380259by CP3Heliflopter » May 05, 2013 - 11:55 AM PST
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DJ and valuable asset do not belong in the same sentence. We should try to get rid of him while people are stupid enough to think he is a valuable commodity and actually has upside. He has the bball iq of a brick and will never get it. He has made extremely marginal improvements in his 5 years in the league. There is a reason he was a 2nd round draft pick which was because he had great athletic talents but lower bball iq than Javale Mcgee.

                
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