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Post Subject: Jamal Crawford IS the Problem Post ID: 351443by StrictClip69 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:18 PM PST
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He's like how Kobe was (until the last few games)...but not as good. chucks the ball everytime he touches it. His teammates stop caring since they're not touching the ball much.

Crawford gets injured. Team ball comes back. Everyone's happy & motivated. We beat a lousy team finally.

I REALLY wish we trade crawford away for another 'asset' and not Bledsoe



                
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Post Subject: RE: Crawford IS the Problem Post ID: 351445by SpicyClips » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:18 PM PST
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Exactly what I was going to say... The ball moves so much better when he isn't on the court. HOWEVER, I do not believe he should be traded.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Crawford IS the Problem Post ID: 351452by =Om@R= » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:20 PM PST
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You can't base on one game without him man

                
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Post Subject: RE: Crawford IS the Problem Post ID: 351453by Grillinnap » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:20 PM PST
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Crawford is horrible without Paul.

                
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Post ID: 351460by StrictClip69 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:26 PM PST
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Nah, I'm basing it on the games with him (without paul...good point Grill) & his history...and from what I see with him on the court.

Every time he touches the ball, I'm thinking or saying "Noooooooo" and once in a while it'll be a made 2 or 3 (or 4) and it feels like a relief...I feel like the Clippers coaches are addicted gamblers hoping Crawford gets on a hot streak...also team ball is obviously gone.

I admit it's not that bad with paul (and chauncey) on the court...it might be actually to our benefit. but without him...it's like ball moves to one person. that person passes to Crawford. Crawford shoots it EVERY time unless he's triple teamed. I'm not a big fan of one on one...

                
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Post ID: 351465by =Om@R= » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:32 PM PST
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StrictClip69 wrote:
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You can't base on one game without him man

Nah, I'm basing it on the games with him (without paul...good point Grill) & his history...and from what I see with him on the court.

Every time he touches the ball, I'm thinking or saying "Noooooooo" and once in a while it'll be a made 2 or 3 (or 4) and it feels like a relief...I feel like the Clippers coaches are addicted gamblers hoping Crawford gets on a hot streak...also team ball is obviously gone.

I admit it's not that bad with paul (and chauncey) on the court...it might be actually to our benefit. but without him...it's like ball moves to one person. that person passes to Crawford. Crawford shoots it EVERY time unless he's triple teamed. I'm not a big fan of one on one...

Yes but u said it right he is gold with Paul or playing off the ball but he does make stupid decisions sometimes, you can't deny the fact that he has helped us a lot in the past and when cp n Billups come back, he is going to be a huuuuugggee factor for our bench along with Bledsoe. I think the Chris Paul injury messed the rotation up along with the chemistry

                
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Post ID: 351469by StrictClip69 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:40 PM PST
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I hope Crawford stays injured then until Paul & Chauncey come back lol

                
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Post ID: 351470by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:42 PM PST
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i guess some people dont watch clipper games much. he has 16 games of 20 or more points, off the bench. even with paul and bg out, he scores 23 pts on 8 of 17 shooting versus boston and 28 points on 10 of 18 shooting versus the wizards. yes he takes some awful shots at times, and yes he tries to break ankles too often, but he is usually scoring and making defenses having to key in to him, which allows others to score much easier.

                
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Post ID: 351471by GhostShip » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:47 PM PST
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Wow we beat the magic cause crawford was out. This thread is just ridiculous. Does J craw take bad shots yeah. Does VDN have a offensive system NO. So J Craw is the perfect player for this team. He also was almost a all star

                
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Post ID: 351475by StrictClip69 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:53 PM PST
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ur right you should watch more clippers games...2 - 7 since Paul has been out with Crawford in. I think we saw what happens when you score a lot of points & are selfish (kobe)

                
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Post ID: 351476by ekker3 » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:53 PM PST
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Post ID: 351477by mj_shoefanatic » Feb 06, 2013 - 08:58 PM PST
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Post ID: 351481by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:01 PM PST
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StrictClip69 wrote:
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i guess some people dont watch clipper games much. he has 16 games of 20 or more points, off the bench. even with paul and bg out, he scores 23 pts on 8 of 17 shooting versus boston and 28 points on 10 of 18 shooting versus the wizards. yes he takes some awful shots at times, and yes he tries to break ankles too often, but he is usually scoring and making defenses having to key in to him, which allows others to score much easier.

ur right you should watch more clippers games...2 - 7 since Paul has been out with Crawford in. I think we saw what happens when you score a lot of points & are selfish (kobe)

your stupid assessment of crawford is very amusing. no s*** the clips suffer without cp3. he becomes a primarily ball handler, but out of necessity because ebled cannot play 48 minutes. how is he selfish when he is asked to carry the scoring load. learn about basketball before u run your mouth.

                
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Post ID: 351482by StrictClip69 » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:07 PM PST
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bullterrierclips, you feel good about yourself now?

first you tell me I don't watch basketball games, now your telling me my assessment of crawford is amusing...

ok...so out of necessity crawford became the primary (not primarily) ball handler...and how did that work out?

I agree, he's asked to carry the scoring load...and that does fall on VDN whom I'm not too fond of...but this is about crawford, not VDN...and he doesn't do much else well (he could if he wanted to) so that's his game. ball hog.

learn about bball before I run my mouth? what's our problem? why would you even attack me? issues in the bedroom? go see a shrink...you act like an ahole

                
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Post ID: 351484by FightOnRon » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:08 PM PST
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Post ID: 351486by david » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:12 PM PST
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Nah- Blake Griffin and CP3 ARE the problem! Wink Actually I do think that the Clippers over-rely on Jamal at times. When other teams run 2 guys at him, we MUST make them pay. Unfortunately too often the end result is Crawford turning the ball over, or us not getting a good shot out of the possession. The team has to figure a better way to attack the aggressive D vs Jamal.

                
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Post ID: 351488by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:14 PM PST
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lol. this guy. lets see, he scores points, actually shoots the ball well, considering that our two best players are out and are playing short handed and we lose to teams who dont have the type of injuries we have, yet somehow hes at fault? lol. oh and we beat a magic team without its best 4 players without crawford and suddenly thats an indication that this team is better without crawford? smh. oh and the real ahole is the guy who talks about a team and straight up blasts a player who has performed at a very high level without giving him his due. just saying.

                
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Post ID: 351490by lobcityhawaii » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:17 PM PST
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Calm Dow guys! We're all clipper fans here. Lets try to be more civil and positive at the same time. We'll be great when cp3 and Blake get back!

                
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Post ID: 351491by david » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:22 PM PST
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Let's quit it with the personal attacks guys.... Thanks in advance.

                
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Post ID: 351494by Andrew818 » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:33 PM PST
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You guys seriously think Crawford is the problem?The top candidate for 6th man of the year is the problem because we beat a team with one of the worst records without him?They didn't have Affalo,Big Baby,Harrington,or Reddick and we only won them by 10 points and some how you guys are blaming Crawford for our recent loses?I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that.

                
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Post ID: 351496by clipperstown » Feb 06, 2013 - 09:39 PM PST
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don't blame crawford cause he's doing what he's told.

                
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Post ID: 351518by neriega » Feb 06, 2013 - 10:54 PM PST
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#smh

                
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Post ID: 351519by ClipperB23 » Feb 06, 2013 - 10:55 PM PST
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well said my friend. I hope the mods can just trash this thread because its garbage.

                
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Post ID: 351530by A_DOG_NAMED_BUD » Feb 06, 2013 - 11:30 PM PST
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I get that he can stop the movement of the ball and can be a one on one player but he's definitely not the problem. Without him coming off the bench, who would score? Barnes and Odom are too unreliable and while I like Hill, he's obviously not the player he used to be.

                
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Post ID: 351541by cleepers » Feb 07, 2013 - 01:19 AM PST
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16-0 in December with Jamal playing the 3rd highest minutes on the team.

This thread is nonsense.

                
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Post ID: 351545by clipcast3 » Feb 07, 2013 - 01:30 AM PST
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This thread is garbage. Should be titled Me No Smart At Baskeeball.

It's like my mom always says, "opinions are like a******, everybody's got one and most of the time they're full of ****"

                
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Post ID: 351554by gman » Feb 07, 2013 - 02:03 AM PST
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So clips win everything is ok (minus some attacks on vinny) We lose some games and its vinny's fault. Its odom too fat its ebeld oit of control blake wont take charge butler is not good dj what improbements? jamal this cp that there is always somethig wrong when we lose.

Guys have already said they would DO anything to win. minutes and numbers dont matter to them. lets wait til we are healthy and then we can talk about who is not doing their part.

                
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Post ID: 351559by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Feb 07, 2013 - 03:08 AM PST
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you see strictclip, im not the only one who sees the light and the error of your criticism of crawford. its almost unanimous that this thread is indeed pointless.

                
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Post ID: 351570by lacsmoove » Feb 07, 2013 - 09:22 AM PST
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He's only a problem when he's the main ballhandler on the floor. This why he should almost always be off the ball.

                
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Post ID: 351575by Mistwell » Feb 07, 2013 - 09:49 AM PST
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Post ID: 351582by FightOnRon » Feb 07, 2013 - 10:40 AM PST
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A problem half the teams in the NBA wish were their's

                
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Post ID: 351584by Worldbthree » Feb 07, 2013 - 10:41 AM PST
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I think the problem with this subject should be, the use of J Craw is the problem. I agree with "lacsmoove" he should be off the ball. I think everyone has gotten ahead of themselves with the whole "he creates his own shots" thing. Can he, yes, is he more effective doing it off the ball first rather than pure iso, yes. Is it just me or when Vinny decides Jamal should run point on last shot or second to last shot, they never ever score (in fact normally look terrible) (was I the only one screaming at the TV during the Celts game when he had the ball for a 2 for 1 at the end of the game and not only did he not get the shot off for a 2 for 1, he managed to force an ill advised shot to try to get to the line). I think he is really good but for all that is good they should have Hill handle the ball and run a screen play for Craw, but then again there's not too much of that in the Clippers offensive repertoire

                
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Post ID: 351601by Silasie » Feb 07, 2013 - 12:16 PM PST
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^ Your talking sense Worldbthree.

                
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Post ID: 351607by ClipperHeart » Feb 07, 2013 - 12:40 PM PST
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J-Crossover is NOT a problem in this team. Never been, never will. Period!

                
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Post ID: 351628by wessleejr » Feb 07, 2013 - 02:21 PM PST
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I would not surprise if the TS will call CP3 and Blake the Clippers problem if one day we will win big againts any team and they are just in the bench watching the game, and might call DTS to trade this two to Lakers because we don't need them anymore. Sad

                
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Post ID: 351631by Clippersfan86 » Feb 07, 2013 - 02:57 PM PST
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Gotta love one game samples to make sweeping statements. One day after Crawford scores 28 with 7 assists to help the Clippers make a hugr comeback in Boston. Crawford is a huge part of our team. Sure without CP3 he's been a lot worse but so has everybody else besides Blake.

                
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Post ID: 351638by FightOnRon » Feb 07, 2013 - 03:35 PM PST
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What is a TS?

                
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Post ID: 351639by clippermitch » Feb 07, 2013 - 03:43 PM PST
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Crawford is far from being the problem. He's a scorer and that's what we expect. When he's off, VDN needs to take him out and give Bledsoe a chance to play alongside CP.

Watch Crawford go off tomorrow. He loves playing the Heat!

                
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Post ID: 351735by wessleejr » Feb 08, 2013 - 09:18 AM PST
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FightOnRon wrote:
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I would not surprise if the TS will call CP3 and Blake the Clippers problem if one day we will win big againts any team and they are just in the bench watching the game, and might call DTS to trade this two to Lakers because we don't need them anymore. Sad

What is a TS?

TS=thread Starter.

                
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Post ID: 351834by JoeClipplet » Feb 08, 2013 - 05:42 PM PST
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wessleejr wrote:
FightOnRon wrote:
wessleejr wrote:
I would not surprise if the TS will call CP3 and Blake the Clippers problem if one day we will win big againts any team and they are just in the bench watching the game, and might call DTS to trade this two to Lakers because we don't need them anymore. Sad

What is a TS?

TS=thread Starter.

And I thought it meant... Tranny... Damn

Thread locked please!! This is useless!!

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