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clippermitch
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It's time to start Bledsoe next to CP. Billups is not a SG and he has no business guarding guys like Wade. We got exposed today with Billups and Butler guarding LeBron and Wade. CP was playing too much help D and Chalmers got open way too often.

Billups should be our backup PG and play alongside Crawford. Bledsoe needs to be on the court 25-28 minutes a night, not 15 mins.

If we're gonna keep Bledsoe, we have to play him. Otherwise, we should package him and Butler for someone like Granger.

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Then who would spread the floor?

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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come on, billups was asked to do too much coming back from a long layoff. same with cp3. you could tell they were very rusty.

TheThinkingSomething
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Sorry, shooting guards need to be able to shoot.

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People need to get this idea out of there heads, Bledsoe is a POINT guard he's athletic ? YES , is he tall enough to guard Kobe wade joe Johnson harden? NOO ! He's an athletic defensive minded 1 with small forward-like skills, he can't play the 2 he would get man handled by opposing 2s!

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bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
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It's time to start Bledsoe next to CP. Billups is not a SG and he has no business guarding guys like Wade. We got exposed today with Billups and Butler guarding LeBron and Wade. CP was playing too much help D and Chalmers got open way too often.

Billups should be our backup PG and play alongside Crawford. Bledsoe needs to be on the court 25-28 minutes a night, not 15 mins.

If we're gonna keep Bledsoe, we have to play him. Otherwise, we should package him and Butler for someone like Granger.

come on, billups was asked to do too much coming back from a long layoff. same with cp3. you could tell they were very rusty.

I realize that not all teams will be the Heat and they won't have a wade and Lebron. However, I'm just tired of seeing Willie and now Billups stunting Bledsoe's growth. If it wasn't for injuries, Bledsoe would not have played as much the last 10-15 games.

Chauncey's value will come playoff time. But you saw what Bledsoe can do defensively in the playoffs and playing next to CP3, they can be deadly.

clippermitch
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He has a better chance than Chauncey.

Not all teams will have legit SG. Look at our team. Hana

Just think of the possible playoff matchups. Memphis has tony Allen. GSW has Klay Thompson. He's tall but he runs around and tries to get open for 3s only. He has no post game. Denver has Iggy which can cause problems but he's not offensive minded.

Spurs have Green and Ginobili who Bledsoe did guard with success. OKC has Thabo and KMart. Bledsoe can defend those guys.

My point is we need to put pressure on the other teams. Let them adjust to us. Pound the ball inside to Blake and then let CP and Bledsoe destroy opposing guards and get steals.

We are a run and gun team. That's how we won. Our half court offense is average at best.

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IMO Bledsoe is overated especially his defense..He cant shoot good, he plays out of control and turns the ball over way too much and he gets burned on defense just as much as any one else on our team...His main strong points is his speed,athleticism and he is great at blocking shots for his position..I would send him on the 1st thing smoking for the right deal at the trade deadline

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I get it that we are frustrated after last nights game. But it would have been better if everybody came back against Orlando. Then they would have worked off the rust and had the opportunity to some team chemistry going before the Miami Heat game. With Grant Hill, Billups, Crawford, Paul, and Griffin all being inserted back into the lineup, spreading out the minutes will be a chore. Willie Green will be reacquainted with the pine. Bledsoe will................I'm not sure. But one thing is for certain, Coach has the ability to adjust his lineups to match up with other teams. So who plays and for how long may depend on who we are playing. Our deep lineup is a luxury. We have a defensive matchup for every situation. But stopping guys like LeBron? Good luck.

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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his plus minus rating suggests the contrary. he forces turnovers which lead to the points, especially when coming off the bench. oh and hes our only true back up pg. billups is at this point of his career a spot up shooter not a pg. so idk what u are talking about.

tense2
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Maybe next year as I and others suggested in another thread.

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I guess getting like 1 block a night and nearly 2 steals a game, and being labeled as a great defender means he can't guard shooting guards, which he mostly guards ANYWAYS.

I've made this case all year long to start Bledsoe at the 2, hell even Jamal Crawford at the 2. You people whine about whose going to spread the floor. The reason why VDN plays 2-3 PG's at 1 time is to have each of them bring the ball up, run the offense and to spread the floor. What Bledsoe can't do on the perimeter, Butler, Crawford, Chauncey and CP3 can do. Hell even Willie Green deserves a little respect from beyond the arc.

Bledsoe would probably be bringing the ball up a good amount, and certain plays would be run specifically for CP3 to spread the floor if Bledsoe was the primary ball carrier. Our offense runs through Blake, CP3 and Crawford, followed by Barnes, Butler, Billups before Bledsoe.

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clippermitch wrote:
=Om@R= wrote:
People need to get this idea out of there heads, Bledsoe is a POINT guard he's athletic ? YES , is he tall enough to guard Kobe wade joe Johnson harden? NOO ! He's an athletic defensive minded 1 with small forward-like skills, he can't play the 2 he would get man handled by opposing 2s!

He has a better chance than Chauncey.

Not all teams will have legit SG. Look at our team. Hana

Just think of the possible playoff matchups. Memphis has tony Allen. GSW has Klay Thompson. He's tall but he runs around and tries to get open for 3s only. He has no post game. Denver has Iggy which can cause problems but he's not offensive minded.

Spurs have Green and Ginobili who Bledsoe did guard with success. OKC has Thabo and KMart. Bledsoe can defend those guys.

My point is we need to put pressure on the other teams. Let them adjust to us. Pound the ball inside to Blake and then let CP and Bledsoe destroy opposing guards and get steals.

We are a run and gun team. That's how we won. Our half court offense is average at best.

And that's why they won't go far, they have to learn half court in order to succeed.

Back to Bledsoe you said other playoffs teams have guys that can guard guys like wade, Kobe, harden would kill Bledsoe, and klay is tall enough and has a quick release that will get over Bledsoe, like I've said Bledsoe is an energetic guy with TONS of potential. He's one of my favorite players, but he would get owned by other guards.

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I love how people talk about size. We haven't had a legit SG that is of decent height in, I can't even think how many years. We've been rocking out Eric Gordon and Chauncey Billups the last few years and have been doing rather well. Both are tough defenders but lack the skill Bledsoe has. While Bledsoe may be a couple inches shorter, he makes up for it in his ability to react faster than these two, jump higher and defend like his life depended on it.

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^gordon is a solid defender. i think the argument people make about bledsoe, aside from his height, is the fact hes not a good shooter yet. but i wouldnt mind having ebled start at sg

tense2
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He MIGHT get owed by Kobe, Wade or Harden sometimes as a lot of other sg's do lol, but he won't get owed by too many other sg's most of the time. He'd do just find defensively IMO.

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Bottom line he has to be on the floor more. Whether thats starting or coming off bench it doesn't matter at this point. He is to good to play this little minutes.

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Yeah and how far did Gordon bring us ? Chauncey hasnt played enough to make an argument. Yeah good teams have good sized 2s to defend . wade? Kevin Martin/tabo safalosha? Manu? Harden? Iggy? Kobe?!? Like I've said Bledsoe would not last as a 2 in the nba he is a POINT GUARD, he got away with it in college yes ? but is not the nba ! Also he's not that good of a shooter. He can pass rebound and score on the break not shoot

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Regardless if he started bled should have seen more time with paul the way they played last season.

We have seen bledsoe guard plenty of 2s in games. We switch on d so much he is forced to. We run good traps on the perimeter that handle this issue somewhat also.

I would be surprised if Vinny ever started bledsoe with a healthy paul or Billups available. It would be nice to see him with paul a few minutes every game.

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People need to do a whole lot more basketball watching before they come on to this board and make these proclomations...

=Om@R=
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What the heck is that supposed to mean?

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tense2 wrote:
=Om@R= wrote:

Back to Bledsoe you said other playoffs teams have guys that can guard guys like wade, Kobe, harden would kill Bledsoe, and klay is tall enough and has a quick release that will get over Bledsoe, like I've said Bledsoe is an energetic guy with TONS of potential. He's one of my favorite players, but he would get owned by other guards.

He MIGHT get owed by Kobe, Wade or Harden sometimes as a lot of other sg's do lol, but he won't get owed by too many other sg's most of the time. He'd do just find defensively IMO.

i agree. he can guard most sg's. the only thing that concerns me is his shooting, but since green is struggling, its worth a shot

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For the record, Eric Bledsoe is shooting 40% from 3 this season. Just saying...

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It seems pretty moronic to start a 36 year old Chauncey Billups at the 2 and ask him to guard players like Dwayne Wade and Kobe Bryant after spending an entire year out recovering from a potentially career ending injury, and expect him to have much success. Not only are we going to have to give him time to get back into the groove of things, but even when he does finally get back into playing shape, we can't really expect much from him defensively.

Bledsoe is definitely an improvement defensively from Billups, Green or even Crawford for that matter. He plays very well when on court with CP3 at the same time and though he might not have the reputation of a shooter right now, he was considered a very good shooter in college and is shooting 40% from 3 on the season so far. I don't know if starting Bledsoe would be the answer to our problems but it certainly wouldn't hurt to see how things work out. Especially considering how well he played while CP3 was out and the fact that Chauncey Billups is still going to take some time before he's able to be effective.

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I see it the same way. Our 2nd unit does not really need a pg with Jcross creating his own and Chauncey could easily bring up the ball to/for him making things a little bit easier for Jcross.

On the other side our best defenders need to play against the opposing elite players or in other words Bled should have played vs. Wade against Miami. I dont think he would have got man handled but would have made things tougher for Wade.

With Chauncey, Butler and DJ in the starting lineup we are simply to weak against the other Elite teams starting 5. With the extra D that Bled would bring (instead of Chauncey) the weak D-Factor would be minimized "only" to Butler and DJ (depending on the Opposing C).

So its reasonable and worth more than a try to let Chauncey bring up the ball for our 2nd unit and let Bled defend most of the opposing starting SG (like Wade, Westbrook and so on).

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=Om@R= wrote:
LAC_12 wrote:
People need to do a whole lot more basketball watching before they come on to this board and make these proclomations...

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Means he thinks he's a genius when it comes to basketball. It's widely known around the league that we need a better starting 2 guard. Willie Green doesn't cut the mustard, and Chauncey is too old. But apparently both of those guys are fine to start at the 2 over someone like Bledsoe who guards SG's when he's on the floor.

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Great idea. Definitely would help our halfcourt offense.... No consistent 3 point shooters on the floor is a great thing.

He should be on the floor with CP3 in certain situations. Definitely not starting.

We need Billups to start.

KP
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I like the idea of bledsoe sparking the bench more than I like the idea of billups coming off the bench... imo billups high bball iq helps defensively much more than bledsoe... billups helps keep deandre in the right places... with billups on the floor we also take less bad shots

bledsoe was born to come off the bench imo... hes a great spark ... who plays late should be determined by who is playing well... but Id rather him off the bench than starting

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I don't neccessarily believe Bled was born to come off the bench. But him coming off the bench is the best thing for our squad right now.

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Amnesty_David_Stern wrote:
=Om@R= wrote:
LAC_12 wrote:
People need to do a whole lot more basketball watching before they come on to this board and make these proclomations...

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Means he thinks he's a genius when it comes to basketball. It's widely known around the league that we need a better starting 2 guard. Willie Green doesn't cut the mustard, and Chauncey is too old. But apparently both of those guys are fine to start at the 2 over someone like Bledsoe who guards SG's when he's on the floor.

He's not a damn shooting guard ! And is a stupid idea to start him at the 2 ! It's not gonna happen period .

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If you are referring to Bledsoe his 3PG percentage is .41% vs. Chaunceys .33%. In that case he must be a hell of bad 3 Point shooter and with his better D, for sure has no business in the starting 5.

Or like some other poster said Chauncey will stop elite SG with his experience by making them mentally weak...for sure.

Bled as a starter is no bad idea at all but his spark from the bench is also great. In the case him playing in the 2nd unit GHILL needs to start and that is for sure, as we can not effort having two weak defenders in our staring 5 guarding the opposite elite SF/Sgs.

tense2
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As mentioned before this sg experiment should start....next year.

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I'm glad that we are just a poster and not a coach and clippers manager. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

OptimusDimes
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This is probably where cp3 the gm will hurt us bacause even in his slump, Allen appears to have been the better choice. Him starting, with JC off the bench would be overwhelming for most teams...and most importantly, this thread would probably be "Should Hill/Barnes start at the 3".

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Let EB focus on being CP3's protege'. This is where he'll flourish LT.

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I got the impression that CP3 liked playing with Chauncey, if that is the case then this thread is null and void cos we all know how much influence he has.

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No he should not

KP
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Im pretty sure at this point everyone realizes this thread was a mistake

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^

The idea is a mistake. No harm talking about it though!

CP3Heliflopter
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Smfh. So disrespectful to Billups.

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Him and Jamal are such a back court bench force. Shame to give that up to play a position he isn't

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