Sources: Bledsoe for Millsap Eyed (P. 2)

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clippersforlife33
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doesn't make sense... millsap is a free agent in the offseason. why would we trade bledsoe for someone who obviously wont get more minutes then griffin because he will play behind him and is going to declare for a lot of money. plus, there is a good chance he might even walk away at the end of the year. dont get me wrong millsap is a beast but i'd prefer to get something else like granger.

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This idea is so dumb that it has to be a leverage play with Boston, either trying to get them to throw in Pierce or reduce their asking price for KG. That's the only explanation.

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It's a dumb trade UNLESS we get Alec Burks or Hayward+Millsap for Bledsoe+Odom. Both Odom and Millsap expire this year and I doubt Millsap would return (giving us 10 mill in cap space) so it basically becomes Bledsoe for Burks/Hayward which I've supported for a while.

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This trade is a little more interesting... But whatever trade the Clippers make concerning Eric Bledsoe and another piece I think the Clippers should be able to get something great in return. Personally I wouldn't make a trade because the Clippers can compete with this squad and honestly any trade that include two of the Clippers youngest assets in Bledsoe and DJ should be voided. DJ is young and still being molded while Bledsoe will never be a starter with Clippers because of Chris Paul thus making Bledsoe more likely to be traded this offseason. With that being said... A....

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the clips are like the kid with a bunch of toys that still isnt satisfied.

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Clippersfan86 wrote:
It's a dumb trade UNLESS we get Alec Burks or Hayward+Millsap for Bledsoe+Odom. Both Odom and Millsap expire this year and I doubt Millsap would return (giving us 10 mill in cap space) so it basically becomes Bledsoe for Burks/Hayward which I've supported for a while.

are you sure that trade adds up salary wise? Or were you planning on throwing green/hollins as well? that's a pretty good trade though I must say.

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the clips are like the kid with a bunch of toys that still isnt satisfied.

Not satisfied because the clips can't win a title as currently constructed.

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From what I've been reading, it's. VDN that wants to make a move. DTS likes the team we have.

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I think we'd want someone like hayward thrown in too, that would be the real prize of the deal

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but is it really the Clips with all this talk,,or is it the media creating it? Or other team creating it hoping we fall for it.

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If Clippers trade EB they must get a rookie or a draft pick for him, you have to think about your future and you need cheap rookie contracts and potential stars coming through your ranks. To me its no use having CP and BG if all you can put around them is old and slow players. you have to have rookie players hell if you play it right you can strike gold with them. If you deal with Utah if Hayward name or a 1st round pick isn't mentioned i would say call me when you really want EB.

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It's all just talk. I can't see us moving Bledsoe for anybody other than KG

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Man it would be awesome seeing Gordan Hayward running with Blake, Hayward plays D also.

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Looking at most teams I can't really see where would Bledsoe get a starting job. Most solid teams are well stocked at the PG and those who are not are not really contending for anything.

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Hmmm...I don't get it either. I'm not saying Bledsoe isn't worth trading for someone we "need"...but a PF???

Nah. Our chemistry is too good right now to do a trade like THIS. The Rudy Gay and KG rumors made more sense than this.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it..and all that. Somebody mentioned DJ being a liability down the stretch, but I'm fine with putting in Hollins or Odom down the stretch, so no worries there. I would only trade a Bledsoe or a DJ for an offer we simply CANNOT refuse. And I'm not sure there's anything like that out there.

The team we have right now can WIN IT ALL!

chonkyfire24
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lol hollins down the stetch. the guy averaging 7.4 fouls per 36 min. that'll take us far

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We sure needed him in that last Orlando game. Oh, and he actually hits free throws.

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Voyeur wrote:
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lol hollins down the stetch. the guy averaging 7.4 fouls per 36 min. that'll take us far

We sure needed him in that last Orlando game. Oh, and he actually hits free throws.

that's your example? How he played against a near d league team?

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Anyone wanna bet that a trade is already done and they wanna wait til after the All-Star game to announce it?

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That is my example. It's why Vinny has played him more. And he's performed admirably. The point is if we need to take DJ out down the stretch due to his FT woes, we can. We have options. Options we didn't have last year with Reggie and Kenyon.

chonkyfire24
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you are way overrating ryan hollins, i'm sorry.

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Hollins is being put in to foul. Sorta like Mahinimi in Dallas. Hllins isn't a great NBA player nor is he a good NBA player. Point he was making was that Hollins actually hits more of his free throws than DJ. And although he has a small role, he plays it nicely.

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i hope this trade isnt made either. its stupid to break up the chemistry, at this point. plus ebled should not be dealt til we are sure cp3 resigns with us. i dont want the elton brand saga to happen again.

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INSIDER TAKE: ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne and Marc Stein report that the Utah Jazz and Los Angeles Clippers have a mutual interest in a deal that would send Paul Millsap to the Clippers and Eric Bledsoe to the Jazz. "Although two sources with knowledge of the Clippers' thinking insisted during All-Star Weekend that Bledsoe would not be moved in coming days and strongly predicted that L.A. would stand pat, two other sources indicated that the Clippers and Jazz will at least discuss the feasibility of a trade headlined by Bledsoe and Millsap before the deadline," they wrote. It's a trade that would make a....

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Andrew818
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Just a rumor or our FO is trying to put some pressure on the Celtics to convince KG to waive his clause.Also could a 3 team trade.Sources don't always get the entire deal correct,so they could have heard that these two teams are in talks but a 3rd team could be brought in to take on Milsap's contract.But until Friday expect a lot of rumors.I don't want to get rid of Bledsoe at all but I know it's something that will have to happen,so if we can get a good deal that improves our team than I am all for it but Milsap doesn't fit this team so I don't think this is a serious trade.

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If this is true than I'd rather just add DJ to this deal & being back Gordon Hayward & play him at the 2.

CP3/Chauncey

Gordon Hayward/Crawford

Caron/Matt Barnes/Grant

Blake/Lamar

Milsap/Hollins/Turiaf

I'll take it.

clips15deep
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Maybe the Jazz proposed something that we will accept but we are waiting to see if we can possibly get something better.

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I do think in general all trade announcements will wait till tomorrow but I doubt WE have traded anybody yet.

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He is a very, very, very good defender.

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Uh no. Millsap is actually an average at best defender, slightly below average more realistically.

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He was top 5 in steals last year.

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The only thing that we should be looking at from Utah is Hayward.

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you guys are outta your tree if you think Hayward can play even a smidgin' of D against LeBron or Durant, and.... if I recall correctly, Trey Thompkins was drafted near the same slot that Milsap was, and albeit he has a different game, think he'll be a more than adequate backup to Blake if and when he gets his game up to speed.... also becoming more and more wary of VDN's job status becoming a factor in deals being rumored....

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I don't get why the Clippers would consider trading Bledsoe for Millsap. Millsap is a power forward and we have a pretty decent one on our team already. If he was able to move over to SF, the Jazz would be able to start Favors at PF, but he's not so they are forced to start ultra bust Marvin Williams instead.

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Hayward doesn't need to guard LBJ or Durant. Its not like we can't make adjustments. Billups isn't going to be healthy all the time.

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So is Josh Smith a PF which you suggested we trade for. Much rather have Milsap, better production especially for the $.

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Josh Smith currently starts at SF for the Hawks and can drain 3 point shots. He's an inside outside player with a lot of versatility. I see Millsap as a pure power forward who plays a low post game. Unless we move Blake to SF, I don't see it working out too well.

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10% of his mins have been at sf, which is not his strongest position.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12ATL12.HTM

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Check out these numbers from Smith last week. Notice the 4-5 from 3pt:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278488

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Having a good year at the 3pt doesn't make him a good 3pt shooter and his not a sf:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... hjo03.html

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tense2 wrote:
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Josh Smith currently starts at SF for the Hawks and can drain 3 point shots. He's an inside outside player with a lot of versatility. I see Millsap as a pure power forward who plays a low post game. Unless we move Blake to SF, I don't see it working out too well.

10% of his mins have been at sf, which is not his strongest position.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12ATL12.HTM

I don't know how they determine that percentage after the game has started and the coaches are going with big and small lineups. When VDN has CP3, Billups, Bledsoe, and Crawford in the game, who do they determine is the PG, SG, SF, etc... In reality, they are playing a 4 guard set so there is no SF or PF in this case. The reality is that Smith can stretch the defense with his outside game and grab boards as well. Of course he's going to want max next year so I don't know if it would all fit financially anyway.

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And Milsap better player than Smith:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... spa01.html

slestack11
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So are you suggesting we move Griffin to SF? I know his 20 footer is improving, but I'm not sure that it's going to work out.

tense2
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No, just comparing him to Smith. Wouldn't trade for either.

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^Millsap cannot handle playing the 3. He's an undersized 4.

He is a very, very, very good defender.

He just doesn't have the quickness to stay in front of true-3's in the league. Millsap is a true-4 (albeit undersized) and has big man skills and mentality. Blake has a better chance at the 3 but that would just put us at a disadvantage if we play BG in that slot.

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id rather have granger than millsap to be honest. at least granger is a proven 3 point shooter and a legit 3. and if we are to acquire anyone from utah, id rather have hayward.

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Is it possible they're thinking about shifting BG to the center position should they get Milsap?

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ClippersSince97 wrote:
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^Millsap cannot handle playing the 3. He's an undersized 4.

He is a very, very, very good defender.

He just doesn't have the quickness to stay in front of true-3's in the league. Millsap is a true-4 (albeit undersized) and has big man skills and mentality. Blake has a better chance at the 3 but that would just put us at a disadvantage if we play BG in that slot.

Alright, but he definitely plays with great hustle and is great at guarding players at the 4.

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clips15deep wrote:
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clips15deep wrote:

He is a very, very, very good defender.

He just doesn't have the quickness to stay in front of true-3's in the league. Millsap is a true-4 (albeit undersized) and has big man skills and mentality. Blake has a better chance at the 3 but that would just put us at a disadvantage if we play BG in that slot.

Alright, but he definitely plays with great hustle and is great at guarding players at the 4.

I agree. I haven't watched him enough to know if he's a great defender but if he is top 5 in steals like you claim then yea. But he sure does hustle though. I just want a legit, halfway decent 5 who actually has some semblance of positional fundamentals and isn't paid a premium... Is that too much to ask for? cry

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It makes no sense trying to trade DJ or Bledsoe. Before Chris Paul got traded, he said that he wanted to make sure that they keep DJ. DJ is also one of Blake Griffin's best friends, so why would you just trade him after he just committed to your team for 5 years. Also, if they were to trade EB and Chauncey or CP3 got hurt they would have no backup PG. EB is an elite defender and when Chauncey retires, I think he could move over to the 2 and play alongside CP3.

tense2
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No need to worry, we're not getting Milsap...silly rumor.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1316/paul-millsap

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