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Post subject: We get Mayo by giving back are first round from Minesota
 Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 10:07 PM PST
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| I read the article that we had a private workout with Mayo. The only way I think that we could get him is that we would have to give minnesota the first round pick that we took for giving marco that is unprotected in 2011. Or, we would have to take a bad contract for a year to swap which I would be hesitant. I really hope that management isn't thinking about getting rid of Al Thorton. No way in hell. |
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Post subject: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round from Minesota
Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 10:41 PM PST
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clippersblue wrote:
I read the article that we had a private workout with Mayo. The only way I think that we could get him is that we would have to give minnesota the first round pick that we took for giving marco that is unprotected in 2011. Or, we would have to take a bad contract for a year to swap which I would be hesitant. I really hope that management isn't thinking about getting rid of Al Thorton. No way in hell.
well i agree that i dont want to give up al, but i def would
not for this deal. but if there is a good trade out there for him, i would |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round from Mine
Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 02:14 AM PST
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| Er no way should we give up that pick + our existing one unless it's for the #1 overall pick.... Maybe, maybe we'll give them our 2nd rounder + our first round for that pick. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round from Mine
Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 02:21 AM PST
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On an ESPN article, they had a mock draft scenario where we picked up Westbrook and then traded Brand for Beasley....trippy. I love Brand and think we should definitely keep him but not sure that scenario has been brought up before.
Interesting no...?
"LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS: RUSSELL WESTBROOK, PG/SG, UCLA
WHAT THE TEAM GETS: CORE GUY
Key question is NOT whether he'll play the point; it's whether he'll be feeding Elton Brand or Beasley (if they trade Elton to Miami)" |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round from
Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 02:41 AM PST
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clipps04 wrote:
On an ESPN article, they had a mock draft scenario where we picked up Westbrook and then traded Brand for Beasley....trippy. I love Brand and think we should definitely keep him but not sure that scenario has been brought up before.
Interesting no...?
"LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS: RUSSELL WESTBROOK, PG/SG, UCLA
WHAT THE TEAM GETS: CORE GUY
Key question is NOT whether he'll play the point; it's whether he'll be feeding Elton Brand or Beasley (if they trade Elton to Miami)"
Trippy indeed. Let's assume the unthinkable for a minute and say Brand is traded for the #2 plus Marion. We'd then have two options: Beasley or Mayo. Neither is considered high charecter guys but they do have superstar potential. Having Marion and Thornton and Beasley seems too redundant because of their skills set. There would also be no PG to feed al those athletic wings, unless you draft Westbrook at 7, which brings up the second option.
A backcourt of Mayo and Westbrook to go along with Thornton and Marion would be an unorthodox and perhaps exciting team. But Dunleavy doesn't strike me as very creative when it comes to offensive schemes (prefering to walk the ball up the court, hand it to a wing, wing dumps it into a big).
These are interesting scenarios but they don't outweigh keeping Brand and seeing how he works with Kaman. An open mind should be kept about Brand, because as much it would hurt to trade him, seeing him opt out and walk away would be worse. Let's hope Marion doesn't opt out, allowing the Heat to even tempt EB. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round f
Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 10:55 AM PST
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| Yeah a agree journey. I'd rather keep Eb and see how things go before we'd even consider trading him. But your right, if Marion opts out I think it's a good bet Miami will make a run for Brand, and Brand supposedly has said Miami looked tempting. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: We get Mayo by giving back are first round f
Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 03:38 PM PST
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| I'd do whatever it takes to keep Elton Brand. Brand,Thornton,Kaman are the guys we NEED to have...the rest can be filled in. That's our core, now we just need some backcourt presence and at least some outside shooting and we're good to go. |
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Posted: Jun 20, 2008 - 07:02 PM PST
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| I'd love to keep EB but having Marion (probably for a year) is OK too. Three athletic guys who can block shots and Marion can shoot |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 04:25 AM PST
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| I love EB but if it's for Beasley and Marion I think Clippers would have to seriously consider it.... |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 05:31 AM PST
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david wrote:
I love EB but if it's for Beasley and Marion I think Clippers would have to seriously consider it....
It's maybe the first time that I see you doubt about trading EB...I'm very surprised!!! 
Beasley seems to me more a SF than a PF.Isn't it?He's too short to play the PF. I don't know if he would hinder Thornton's minutes. Do you really think he could play the PF position???
The best think about trading for EB is that Beasley would cost a few million dollars during some years because of his rookie contract and Marion would be free agent next season and we would have a lot of dollars to waste next summer. |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 10:28 AM PST
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| ^^^^ And isn't next summer when all the big superstar contracts expire? or is that one more summer after next? |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 12:20 PM PST
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I would not trade Brand at all. Who ever is putting up these stupid rumors that we would give Brand for Shawn Marion and the number 2 is crazy. I'm would not even give up Brand for the number 1 pick, which is Derrik Rose, even though it would be tempting. If we lost him, were back to square 1, even if we got a superstar point guard.
Beasley strikes me the wrong way. I don't like his demenear and I agree with Pat Riley. I would trade my pick too. |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 02:42 PM PST
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david wrote:
I love EB but if it's for Beasley and Marion I think Clippers would have to seriously consider it....
Marion's contract is over 17 million this coming season. Then taking Beasley will further hinder the ability to trade both guys for Brand. On top of that Bealsey keeps shrinking in size. He is considered 6'10" coming out of college but since then he has been measured 6'9" and recently at 6'8". I don't think he will be a natural PF in the NBA. That now will leave us with 3 potential starters at the SF position. A good problem to have but it will only cause problems for the players and our defense. JMHO |
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Posted: Jun 21, 2008 - 03:40 PM PST
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clippersblue wrote:
I would not trade Brand at all. Who ever is putting up these stupid rumors that we would give Brand for Shawn Marion and the number 2 is crazy. I'm would not even give up Brand for the number 1 pick, which is Derrik Rose, even though it would be tempting. If we lost him, were back to square 1, even if we got a superstar point guard.
Beasley strikes me the wrong way. I don't like his demenear and I agree with Pat Riley. I would trade my pick too.
Exactly. Brand gave every indication at the end of the season that he would come back. If he opts out, I'm betting he re-signs. We need to build around EB, which means land a good PG and at least one more 3pt specialist (since Thomas' 30% doesn't cut it). A combination of Shawn Marion and Beasley sounds exciting but it wouldn't be an upgrade. Unless Brand himself indicates he prefers to move on, there should be no motivation to rebuild without him. |
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 - 12:26 AM PST
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Beasley is gonna be a big small forward who can play PF, but needs to bulk up and grow (? if possible) to be effective in a long-term power forward position. The guy can score and isnt a twig, so I dont see him not panning out unless his attitude isnt there. When K-State starting losing the last game of their ncaa tournament appearance, he got very frustrated and almost violent. I'd be a bit weary of that. The guy is a legit player, but if he can't control his emotions, he's gonna have some problems.
Gordon, Westbrook, Augustin....I'm hoping our draft pick comes between those 3 guys. |
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 - 12:54 PM PST
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| According to "Clipper Insiders" Gordon is the guy the Clippers seem to favor, but would Westbrook or Augustin not be better picks? Unless they have a point guard lined up via trade or free agency, I think we should pick up a PG first round. Good point guards seem hard to come by and with our current situation, it looks like we have a choice between the best pure point guard of the draft or the best perimeter defender and one of the strongest upside players in the draft. |
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Posted: Jun 22, 2008 - 01:38 PM PST
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I like Gordon because he is a great scorer and a terrific athlete. I think we can pick up a good point guard via trade- usually you don't want a rookie point guard leading your team anyways (unless it's someone like Derrick Rose, of course). Westbrook is solid but actually George Hill has a better wingspan and jumps higher than him in both the no-step and max vertical leaps. Check out the strength, wingspan, and leaping ability of these prospects here:
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... amp;sort=8 |
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