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JamFan
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Ok we have heard all the rumors and seen all the Mock Drafts, but the real deal happens this Thursday at 4PM Pacific on ESPN. Every Clipper fan now has to give his choice. If you do not think your first choice will be available, or if you think the Clippers will go for a different player, this is where we air it out. Better yet, give us you lottery picks in order or your top 7. Who do think we will take in the second round? I actually think either OJ Mayo, or Jerryd Bayless could drop. Will they drop as far as the 7 pick? It's your turn! Go Clippers!

clipperfan909
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I'm hoping for Westbrook, if not I think we need a trade. I would love to see us trade up for the 4th pick and grab Bayless. I think he's going to be really good, and would fit/mesh with our team really well. I'm not completely sold on Gordon; therefore, if we end up drafting him, I just hope he turns out to be good.

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I have made no secret of the fact that I like Westbrook, and his stock does seem to be rising. With Bayless seemingly gone(?) by our pick, I would love to see us take Westbrook if he's there at seven. Most of the experts have us taking Gordon though, which if RW is gone I'm ok with. Not thrilled mind you, I have the sneaking suspicion that Brandon Rush might be the real steal at two in the draft, but Gordon's ok as our pick there. Of course you never know how someone will perform in the bigs, but with Gordon we at least know he was the featured scorer for his squad, which is a big-time school, so he doesn't lack confidence. Interestingly he says that he sees himself as a point guard eventually, which surprises me considering his bulk and the limited handle he's shown so far. If he CAN actually play the point that might change things considerably when we look to make our summer trades or signings. As for our second pick... who knows? We could look for more backcourt help, there are names like Kyle Weaver, Jamont Gordon, Sonny Weems and Mike Taylor that should still be available. All are guys with potential at point or SG. There are a lot of quality bigs out there too that will still be on the board. 'Course... if I'm guessing at seven I wouldn't dream of trying to zero in on a name at thirtyfive, but in some ways I'd like to think that whoever it is makes the team. Pretty good shot, it's a deep draft, talent-wise. Hey, if we ONLY do as well as we did last year I'll be psyched!

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I'm on board with both of you. I'd love to see Westbrook on this team rather than Gordon. I had a feeling we were going to get him too, or have the choice to pick him but seems the Knicks might end up picking him. At least thats the way it looks in the mock drafts. I'm not feeling Gordon too much though if we do get him I wont be disappointed as he looks to have the potential to be good. I just feel Westbrook is our guy.

clipperfan909
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The new ESPN mock draft has Jerryd Bayless dropping in our laps at 7. I would love to see that happen; however, I highly doubt it. These ESPN mock drafts fluctuate way too much, and I pretty much think it's to stir up some drama for ratings. I still think it's possible that Bayless can drop to us; however, I don't think there's much validity to ESPN's reason for that happening. However, what I did hear is that Brook Lopez has a "guarantee" at the 3, 4, or 5. He even cancelled workouts with everyone else drafting after that. With....

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JamFan
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In addition to Lopez getting a promise at the 3,4,5 spot, there are rumors that GM Kevin McHale is in love with Kevin Love at the 3. If those two guys go in the 3-5 spots, then it is very possible that either OJ Mayo or Bayless could drop to the Clippers. But if Love, Lopez, Bayless and Mayo are all gone, then that means that Westbrook, Gordon, Gallinari and Randoph will still be on the board. And since we need guards and outside shooters, Randolph and Gallinari are probably not our targets even though they are going to turn out to be a great players. Remember, some folks feel NY is going to go big. That pick would leave Bayless or OJ still on the board for us. NY might go small if OJ is still on the board at 6, but they might pass on Bayless and go big. They might have already promised Gallinari at 6. Dream on! It could happen for us.

Miquel
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I'm getting lost with all the comments about the draft pick. There are thousands of topics talking about the same...Wink. I propose to start a chart where everyone could put his preference assuming we will pick at the 7th position and we won't trade to go higher. It seems that Rose, Beasley, Bayless, Lopez, Love and Mayo won't be available when we pick...so do not include these players to make the survey more realistic...

It means you are getting bald, your workmate is called Elgin and your boss is called Donald. Of course, your name is Mike...Smile. Who do you pick?? My vote is for Gordon!

Eric Gordon: Miquel

Westbrook:

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clipps04
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Westbrook^^^

clipperfan909
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Westbrook! (Bayless if he's available)

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I think Mayo may have the most potential, but he is a risk (risky picks don't pan out well for Clips), and not one trading away three picks for. Bayless out of point-guard U would be nice, but he'll be gone by 7th. I like Westbrook, and if we walk away from the draft with him wearing a Clipper hat I would be pleased. But I find Gordon the more intruiguing choice. He was one broken wrist away from being a top 3 pick. He's not tall but he is strong and athletic. I see him making the all rookie team. We need a PG more, but I'd rather look for one in FA. So my vote is for either Gordon or Westbrook (in that order).

Eric Gordon: Miquel, jouneyman

Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909

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JamFan
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Miguel's assumption that Bayless, Love, Lopez and Mayo won't be there at 7 is not a lock. ESPN now has Westbrook going at 4 and Gordon going at 5. NY could go Gallinari at 6. If any one of those three happen, then one of those four players will be available. If all three of those projected picks happen, then three of those four players will be available. We could end up with a steal here just like last year. Imagine sitting there at 7 with Mayo, Bayless, and either Lopez or Love still on the board. But our dream is to still have OJ and Bayless available since we need to go small. OJ had a private workout with the Clips. And he has shunned the teams picking 3 thru 5. I would bet money that he has a promise from the Clips to take him at 7 if he is still on the board.

Miquel
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You just have to put your name at the chart...Maybe I haven't expressed myself right...

Eric Gordon: Miquel, jouneyman

Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909

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Add you vote to the list!!!!

Miquel
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Miguel's assumption that Bayless, Love, Lopez and Mayo won't be there at 7 is not a lock. ESPN now has Westbrook going at 4 and Gordon going at 5. NY could go Gallinari at 6. If any one of those three happen, then one of those four players will be available. If all three of those projected picks happen, then three of those four players will be available. We could end up with a steal here just like last year. Imagine sitting there at 7 with Mayo, Bayless, and either Lopez or Love still on....

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JamFan
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Well, read my article below showing that I was willing to go out on a limb and say we get Bayless at 7. So it's Jamfan picks Bayless. But there are 3 or 4 players that would make me happy at 7. OJ, Bayless, Gordon or Westbrook are all good choices.

CLiPPzWeRD42
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At first I was sketchy about Gordon, but he's my pick for Thursday.. We need a solid shooter, and I'm not worried about his height.. Mobley is the same height and has been playing SG his whole career..

Eric Gordon: Miquel, jouneyman, CLiPPzWeRD42

Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909

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Alexander:

david
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I'm jumping on Eric Gordon's bandwagon, though I like Wesbrook and Bayless also.

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Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909

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ether
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Gordon.

Eric Gordon: Miquel, jouneyman, CLiPPzWeRD42, David , ether

Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909

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jlemmen43
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My order after those 6 Miquel listed are gone:

Westbrook

Gordon

Augustin

jlemmen43
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If this was a value board, this would be my top 10:

Rose, Beasley, Westbrook, Gordon, Augustin, Rush, Mayo, Bayless, Lopez, Alexander

jlemmen43
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If I were the Clippers, I'd like to work some trades to grab: DJ Augustin, Brandon Rush and J.R. Giddens (in the 2nd)...I dunno how that would work, but we would have a nice young backcourt for the future.

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things arent looking so good, a recent mock draft shows that gordon will be taken by the 5th seed and clippers would be stuck with Bayless

partytime
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bayless is proclaimed as a player who relates most closely with GILBERT ARENAS. hahaha, so we can have ELTON BRAND AND GILBERT ARENAS(or close to)

corgiBear8
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Bayless at 7 would be great. My second choice is Westbrook, and my third choice is Gordon (who will be a complete bust). The Clippers will definitely draft Gordon.

JamFan
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You guys all need to go back and look at the Gordon You Tube video and watch Gordon's shooting motion. NBA guards are not going to let him get that low winding shot off, and he's not tall. He will only be able to hit the open 3's. Then go look again at the Bayless video. He is much quicker, more athletic, more versatile, and has a high profile jump shot. His game will translate to the NBA better. I do not think that Gordon is going in the top 8.

cgorac
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My First choice was O.J Mayo but i'm leaning towards Russell Westbrook at 7th pick.

And another to watch out for is Mario Chalmers from kansas the PG.

dwb
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You know JamFan, I kinda thought the same thing about Gordon's shot... but that might just be his "comfortable/uncovered" version, seems like he raises it some in traffic. He IS a stocky, muscular dude, which means he can probably create the space he needs to get it off, but we'll see I guess. I'm still shocked that he considers himself a point! I also agree that Bayless looks more like your prototype NBA scorer, he's very smooth, I just don't know that we'll get a shot at him. Hmmm... I guess that leaves me:

Eric Gordon: Miquel, jouneyman, CLiPPzWeRD42, David , ether

Westbrook: clipps04, clipperfan909, dwb

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SteelLAC2010
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You all are all over the place Eric Gordon is the best choice I just wished we was number 1

JamFan
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Westbrook & Bayless are more like Derrick Rose. Gordon is more like Deron Williams at Utah. I think we benefit greatly if we get any of these 3 guys. I won't cry if any of those 3 names get called when the Clippers pick at 7. If I were in the hot seat, it would be Bayless if available. Then I would flip a coin on the other two if Bayless were not on the board. It could be that Westbrook has more upside than Gordon. But Gordon is a world class shooter. I just hope Gordon can hold up under the strain of a long NBA season, since he faded at the end of a shorter college season.

clippersblue
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I think Kevin Love will slip to about 10 or further. I think we should try to trade up for Mayo. If we can not get him, then I say we draft Brook Lopez. He is a safe pick and he can play in the post. He would be a great back up to Kaman and he might turn out to be the real deal. I would then work a sign and trade for Barbosa and the number 15 and take Brandon Rush. I am very excited to see what will happen. I think we will get screwed by picking 7th. Love will be a mediocre player in the nba, not a star because he doesn't have the athleticism. We need to find a way to get the 15th to take Brandon Rush. I think we control the market because Maggette will need our help to sign elsewhere. He fits perfectly with the Suns in the high tempo offence.

JamFan
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Dave - Merge with Official Draft Thread so we don't have 20 different draft threads.

clipperfan909
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Love might slip, but at least one of those other guys (bayless, gordon, westbrook) will be available. There is no need to get Love or Lopez. Yes, its good to have backups at the forward and center, but we don't even have legitimate starters at our guard positions. We need to focus on getting quality guards before building our bench. And, I'm also going to have to disagree with you on Love, I think he will definitely be better than mediocre. Regardless, we don't need him. Drafting Love or Lopez would be like when we drafted Wilcox and Melvin Ely (even when Caron Butler was available). Although Love and Lopez will probably be better than the two, it doesn't make sense to get either one of them.

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we have a real good back up center in Brad Davis , if he's healthy

do like Love though. He seems to be very smart and have a great work ethic ala EB.

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If Love slips, that means Bayless, Gordon, Mayo, and Westbrook will not be available.

Here's my draft:

  1. Rose

  2. Beasley

  3. Mayo

  4. Bayless

  5. Gordon

  6. Westbrook

7 Us

What do we do here. There is nothing but go with the best player available or trade it. Forget Love, go with a good center. You can never can be too big. And regards to Wilcox and Ely, they were both bust. It would have been good if they were any good.

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Or we can just get Augustin....Kinda out of place but really why go for the best player if this happens? I mean Augustin is the best pure point guard. I think he'd be great.

clipperfan909
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The thing is, I don't see that happening. I can't imagine Memphis (@ #5) picking Gordon, or any other guard for that matter. They are stacked with guards, and they traded away their big man in Pau Gasol. If they don't get a forward/center, I don't know what they're doing. It would be a repeat of the hawks the better part of this decade drafting nothing but swingmen (marvin williams, childress, smith...). One of those guys has to fall to us.

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If somehow, that scenario happens, I'd try to trade down for DJ Augustin. Or draft him straight out.

SteelLAC2010
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I think we need to draft a player like Gordon or Augustin because they provide leadership to the ball club and with leadership it'll help build confidence and get players better.

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The more I read and hear about Gordon, the more I like him! All of the coaches that have worked with him talk about his toughness and determination, and those are qualities the Clippers sorely need. His shooting woes at the end of the season last year could very well be attributed to the fractured wrist(!) and the coaching change, either one in fact could reasonably get into a player's head. The thing I like is that during that time you never heard him complain, or use either as an excuse. He even sounds like he'll adopt the Caron Butler "I'm gonna make the teams that passed on me pay" attitude, and there's nothing wrong with a little extra incentive. Don't get me wrong, I still think that Westbrook has tremendous potential, and I really like him as our pick at number seven, I'm just that much more comfortable now with the prospect of either guy.

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^^Yeah my sentiments exactly dwb. Another thing is that he's like another Maggette in terms of getting to the free throw line. If Bayless doesn't fall to us I hope we can draft him. I like Westbrook too but for now I don't see him as a leader or a potential all-star like Bayless and Gordon could become. I do see Gordon has having leadership qualities like SteelLAC2010 pointed out.

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In my case I think I've read too many things about too many players and now I have no idea who is our perfect choice...

Gordon averaged 20 points as FRESHMAN in Indiana but it is said he's too short for the NBA, Augustin is too short to play as PG...Westbrook seems to me very athletic but undersized to play the SG and with no skills to play the PG and isn't a shooter. I'M LOST

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^^Yeah it's tough. He is a bit short but he's very athletic, and he does have a long wingspan like that of a 6'9" player. I do wish that he rebounded better- only 3.3 rebounds per game. I guess it's hard to get a lot of rebounds when you like to go bombs away from deep.

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I feel the same!

Let it be over.

At 7 we will have the great choices, no matter how it plays out before us.

We'll find out by about 4pm (pacific) tomorrow.

Can't wait

clipperfan909
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Miquel wrote:
dwb wrote:

Gordon averaged 20 points as FRESHMAN in Indiana but it is said he's too short for the NBA, Augustin is too short to play as PG...Westbrook seems to me very athletic but undersized to play the SG and with no skills to play the PG and isn't a shooter. I'M LOST

On the contrary, Westbrook does have the skills to play PG. Let's not forget he lead UCLA in assists. Most people think it was Collison, but in fact it was Westbrook. When Collison was out at the beginning of the season, Westbrook took over at the point and did extremely well. There were several games when Collison was healthy where Westbrook would still finish at the point. I'm a Bruin and have followed UCLA basketball religiously, and there's one thing for sure, Westbrook can play and will succeed in the NBA, and definitely can do it as a PG. I do agree with you guys though, I feel that Gordon has more star potential, but I think he also has more bust potential. I think Westbrook is a safer pick. However, if Jerryd Bayless is available, I say we take him over the others.

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If Batless is available, we take him. Over the past weeks, Bayless has been projected to go #4 to Seattle, but for some reason, he seems to be dropping. If he is there at #7, it is a gift!

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Hello everyone, Ive been reading visiting this site since back in the orange and black days and may have posted a couple of articles but lost my password and guess was too lazy to retrieve it or never had anything that I wanted to post. But I just moved out to New York about two months ago and will be attending the draft tomorrow, so look for most likely the only fan in clipper gear. If you thought there were few clipper fans in cali, try living in new york!

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Were you a member when it was orange and black??The old men's of this forum should recognize you...Which was your name??

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Kenyetta- is that you?

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Nope, not kenyetta and dont even remember my old name nor password. just enjoyed reading the posts, made it easier opposed to collecting all the research myself. Glad to be joining the discussions once again.

Miquel
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david wrote:
NYClipper wrote:
Hello everyone, Ive been reading visiting this site since back in the orange and black days and may have posted a couple of articles but lost my password and guess was too lazy to retrieve it or never had anything that I wanted to post. But I just moved out to New York about two months ago and will be attending the draft tomorrow, so look for most likely the only fan in clipper gear. If you thought there were few clipper fans in cali, try living in new york!

Kenyetta- is that you?

Yeah. I thought the same name. She was from NY, too. Good memory David Very Happy Very Happy

JamFan
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danobaseball, you are right, if Bayless falls to 7, it is a gift. But the experts say if he drops it is not because of Bayless, but more because there are 4 or 5 teams drafting before us tha may go BIG because they are blessed with guards already. So, since we need a guard, their loss is out gain. Bayless is a big fat present to unwrap as we draft at the 7. Hope so. And I hope George Hill is still there at 35. What a scoring tandem those two guards would be.

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