Why Our Current Situation is Not Bad at All.

Clippers TopBuzz Forum/Message Board » Clippers News & General Discussions
Post new topic   Reply to topic
Author Search This Topic:
 
keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1


Repped High Quality Post

All I have been hearing is the clippers are .500 since so and so, they are collapsing, they are not playing good ball going into the playoffs, blah blah blah.

a few points:

1) Going into the playoffs hot is not always an indicator of the success you can expect.

take for example the spurs (the last 6 years?) especially last year they had won 20 straight including playoffs sweeps and choke and lost 4 straight. Also a few years back they lost to memphis being the 1 seed.

If you think about it the last few champions:heat,mavs lakers, were not on a "roll" going into the playoffs. Actually the lakers were notorious for "falling apart" towards the end of the season only to win a championship.

what am I saying? Its good that we are collapsing and that is the key? NO im saying that down the stretch performance is not a clear cut indicator of playoff success.

2) 4/5 seed might not be a bad thing. If we get the 3 seed we will face GSW, a stylistic bad matchup and a team that will be hungry to knock off a higher seed. Even if we fall to 5 and face memphis on the road[this sounds familiar and I like what I remember Smile]. if we go deeper we are still going on the road if we were the 3 seed so why not start with teams that are, standings wise, a game or two apart.

3)Momentum is created and carried over in the playoffs. once we get there its 0-0. The most important thing is our health.(remember last years spurs series? our stars were just crippled.)

seanrooks
Clipper All-Star
 Avatar
Posts: 1364

us.gif
votes: 31
  1. That's true, but I also don't think going into the playoffs ice cold is an indicator of success. If I had to choose, I'd rather be going in playing well than playing like crap.

  2. 4/5 is worse than 3, especially if it's 5 because then we lose home court. I'd much rather face a team that's a slightly worse matchup and have home court than not have home court. As in, I'd rather have home court against the Warriors than not have home court against Memphis. Also, I'm not sure why people think Golden State is a worse matchup. Sure, they beat us a few times, but the Grizzlies are a tough team too. They've been really good the second half of the season, and if you think the Warriors will have a chip on their shoulder playing us, how will the Grizzlies feel? You don't think they want revenge? I'm not betting on another miracle in Memphis this year. Just because we escaped that series without home court last year doesn't mean we should count on doing it again.

  3. Yes, health is important. But if we're not a good team(which we really haven't been since December) then we're just not a good team. Right now, the top 4 teams in the West are much better teams than us. We have like 2 weeks to figure it out I guess, but right now it doesn't look good.

And for those who think we've been playing well since December, our record in 2013 is 25-20. Sure, we've had injuries, but even so we just haven't been good. For comparison, in around the same time period the Nuggets have gone 34-9.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

1.that is why I said that it is not good that we are cold either, but either cold or hot neither can be specifically traced to playoff success.

2.rather? yea i rather be one seed and face the jazz, what im saying is that from the available options: GSW with HC,DN with HC or w/o HC, Memphis with HC or w out HC, these are all the possible permutations, that there is not much drop off or favorable matchups, each of these scenarios are close to equally hard, can we win yes I believe each scenario we can come out on top but neither is head and shoulders above the rest in favorable and something to worry about, our focus should be health and lets get it on where ever we play.

3.not counting on it but we have face whatever comes our way and go for it

4.in the playoffs it takes ONE game and everything clicks like in december

  1. they also started 18-16 or something like that, it all evens out at the end, once your a 50+ win team any team can beat another in the playoffs.
Silasie
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 2015

uk.gif
votes: 2

You are certainly living up to your user name keephopealive Wink

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

as a die hard lakers and clipper fan, same SN in LTB, I do have a lot of hope in me but it is rooted in things that I see.

in 2010 I correctly predicted the lakers would repeat when all of LTB was giving up. That year the lakers had a roller coaster of a season (and playoffs) but I knew that they still had it in them which they could harness and pull it out, in 2011 I knew they had run out of gas.

This team can beat any team, let me rephrase that: the clips of are THE best team in the NBA, if they play like they did in december. will they I do not know but I know that flow they had can click in one game.

tense2
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 8989
votes: 20

Hope your "insights" for our PO hopes turn out better than your prediction of our chances of becoming the #1 seed in WC.Wink

CP3Heliflopter
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 6011
votes: 10

Its not bad but its definitely not good either. Basically slightly better than last postseason assuming we are healthy.

Btw not having HCA against Memphis is hardly a good thing. Remember the Griz had an epic choke job which allowed us to steal game 1. If not for that we would have loss that series.

Its not going to hard either way but without HCA its going to be even worse. Its far from ideal. There is a huge drop off from 5th seed and 6th seed. The competition is a lot weaker if we face the 6th seed.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

My prediction on that was based on the spurs slipping which they have. They are. They are 4-4 in their last 8. With 3 of those wins coming by one possesion or OT. I said they would finish 62-20 which seems likely. No one could have predicted the clippers losing so many easy games.

So yes I was right the spurs are tailspining. They could very well be 1-7 in their last 8.

If the clippers would have taken care of business they'd be in the #1 seed mix.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

So did we in game 6, which I attended. If we can't beat Memphis on the road then we won't beat spurs/OKC either.

A7XDreamTheaterClipps
Clipper Starter
Posts: 723
votes: 5

A lot is true, but the Clippers aren't bringing the fire like they did earlier in the season. Before they know it, the Clippers will be 20-30 points in the hole in game 1.

CP3Heliflopter
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 6011
votes: 10

keephopealive wrote:
CP3Heliflopter wrote:
Its not bad but its definitely not good either. Basically slightly better than last postseason assuming we are healthy.

Btw not having HCA against Memphis is hardly a good thing. Remember the Griz had an epic choke job which allowed us to steal game 1. If not for that we would have loss that series.

Its not going to hard either way but without HCA its going to be even worse. Its far from ideal. There is a huge drop off from 5th seed and 6th seed. The competition is a lot weaker if we face the 6th seed.

So did we in game 6, which I attended. If we can't beat Memphis on the road then we won't beat spurs/OKC either.

I am not saying we can't win but facing OKC or the Spurs coming off a tough series without HCA is almost impossible. The Spurs and OKC will have an easy first round while we will have a very tough one.

A7XDreamTheaterClipps
Clipper Starter
Posts: 723
votes: 5

A little off topic, but it would have been helpful if the Mavs knew how to box out on Faried's missed freethrow.

ClipsGForce
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 1827
votes: 12

If I have a prediction, we would follow the same route as last year playoff. I guess we'll play Memphis first, then San Antonio on 2nd round. The result of 2nd round will be different, but if we win it is depend on the players.

CP3Best
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 5017
votes: 12

I would like to play Denver, although I hate it when someone gets injured that badly, but Gallinari , from what I observed, looks like he tore his ACL, his knee was twisting much like's Rose's did last year.

tense2
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 8989
votes: 20

keephopealive wrote:
tense2 wrote:
Hope your "insights" for our PO hopes turn out better than your prediction of our chances of becoming the #1 seed in WC.Wink

My prediction on that was based on the spurs slipping which they have. They are. They are 4-4 in their last 8. With 3 of those wins coming by one possesion or OT. I said they would finish 62-20 which seems likely. No one could have predicted the clippers losing so many easy games.

So yes I was right the spurs are tailspining. They could very well be 1-7 in their last 8.

If the clippers would have taken care of business they'd be in the #1 seed mix.

"IF" is a big and seductive word...and being half right doesn't get you much recondition unless your a weather man, LOL.

ClipsGForce
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 1827
votes: 12

Exactly, people panicked too much here. I think we're back on track and I'm glad we're making mistake right now so we can fix it before playoff time. This is basically polishing the art and craft of their plays and executions to be ready for playoff. I think we'll find and make it at least 2nd round.

bullterrierclipsfan1349
CTB MVP X1
Posts: 4526

mx.gif
votes: 30

i agree with the post from keephopealive. all i care about is getting to the playoffs healthy. if people overlook that, just go ask the nuggets. gallinari appears to have torn his acl and lawson has a torn plantar fascia. out of our 6 remaining games, if we dont overlook anyone, we can easily win all 6. yes, we have the grizzlies in memphis, but i think we can beat them. this is the remaining schedule: flakers, minnesota, @hornets,@memphis, portland, @ kings, 5-1 is the worst case scenario. who knows, we may be able to get the 3rd seed or 4th seed after all.

CP3Heliflopter
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 6011
votes: 10

They don't have Ty Lawson and Gallo is probably out the entire playoffs. They look very vulnerable right now tbh.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

tense2 wrote:
keephopealive wrote:
tense2 wrote:
Hope your "insights" for our PO hopes turn out better than your prediction of our chances of becoming the #1 seed in WC.Wink

My prediction on that was based on the spurs slipping which they have. They are. They are 4-4 in their last 8. With 3 of those wins coming by one possesion or OT. I said they would finish 62-20 which seems likely. No one could have predicted the clippers losing so many easy games.

So yes I was right the spurs are tailspining. They could very well be 1-7 in their last 8.

If the clippers would have taken care of business they'd be in the #1 seed mix.

"IF" is a big and seductive word...and being half right doesn't get you much recondition unless your a weather man, LOL.

I think I was right on the more important part. When i posted that thread I got **** for thinking san antonio would slip and that is what i predicted right.

The clippers finishing strong was sort of a given since the schedule was easier compared to SA and OKC.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

CP3Heliflopter wrote:
CP3Best wrote:
I would like to play Denver, although I hate it when someone gets injured that badly, but Gallinari , from what I observed, looks like he tore his ACL, his knee was twisting much like's Rose's did last year.

They don't have Ty Lawson and Gallo is probably out the entire playoffs. They look very vulnerable right now tbh.

with the injuries and a loss yesterday, which they are lucky they won, the clippers have a great shot at the 3 seed now. or even the 4 with denver slipping to the 5.

smittywerb
Clipper Starter
Posts: 585
votes: 4

Good thing that the I injury decided to come. Definitely eased my mind on some potential matchups.

CP3Heliflopter
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 6011
votes: 10

keephopealive wrote:
CP3Heliflopter wrote:
CP3Best wrote:
I would like to play Denver, although I hate it when someone gets injured that badly, but Gallinari , from what I observed, looks like he tore his ACL, his knee was twisting much like's Rose's did last year.

They don't have Ty Lawson and Gallo is probably out the entire playoffs. They look very vulnerable right now tbh.

with the injuries and a loss yesterday, which they are lucky they won, the clippers have a great shot at the 3 seed now. or even the 4 with denver slipping to the 5.

Unlikely. We are 3 games behind and there are 6 games left for them. If only they loss that game against the Mavs....

cleepers
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 9005

us.gif
votes: 116

^ It's actually only 2 games. Unlikely we'll catch them, but still possible.

4-2 for them, 6-0 for us... we can hope.

seanrooks
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 1364

us.gif
votes: 31

its 2 games, but they have the tiebreaker, which means that if we tie they still finish ahead of us. So it's basically 3 games because we need to pass them. I think Denver has 3 locked up unless they really collapse because of these injuries. Right now we should try to get home court from the Grizzlies, since we're only a game and half back and still have a game against them left. That's more realistic.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

I do agree that mavs game was a killer.

slipperyball
Clipper D-League Pickup
Posts: 12
votes: 0

The "waiting for Chauncey" game set the tone for the second half of the year. Really stupid. Meanwhile, Mike Conley was

taking his game to a new level. Conley makes the Grizzlies nearly unbeatable. They'll play the Heat.

clipnasty
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 1290

us.gif
votes: 14

What about the apparent "conference winner" tie breaker. It seems to be a little known rule, or maybe it is just a rumor???

clipperstown
CTB MVP X3
Posts: 11297
Location: Glendale, CA
am.gif
votes: 24

clipnasty wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
its 2 games, but they have the tiebreaker, which means that if we tie they still finish ahead of us. So it's basically 3 games because we need to pass them. I think Denver has 3 locked up unless they really collapse because of these injuries. Right now we should try to get home court from the Grizzlies, since we're only a game and half back and still have a game against them left. That's more realistic.

What about the apparent "conference winner" tie breaker. It seems to be a little known rule, or maybe it is just a rumor???

they'd only use other tiebreakers if the season series had been tied.

lobcityhawaii
CTB MVP X1
Posts: 3220

us.gif
votes: 4

clipnasty wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
its 2 games, but they have the tiebreaker, which means that if we tie they still finish ahead of us. So it's basically 3 games because we need to pass them. I think Denver has 3 locked up unless they really collapse because of these injuries. Right now we should try to get home court from the Grizzlies, since we're only a game and half back and still have a game against them left. That's more realistic.

What about the apparent "conference winner" tie breaker. It seems to be a little known rule, or maybe it is just a rumor???

We have the tie breaker over both teams due to the division winner tie breaker. This tie breaker is if the teams have the same record at the end of the season. It is not a rumor and was confirmed on a radio talk show. 2nd tie breaker is head 2 head.

keephopealive
Clipper 6th Man
Posts: 213
votes: 1

wait im confused. Conference winner or division winner?

cleepers
CTB MVP X2
Posts: 9005

us.gif
votes: 116

TIEBREAKER BASIS:

(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)

(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division

(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage

(3) Conference won-lost percentage

(4) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, own conference

(5) W-L Percentage vs. Playoff teams, other conference

(6) Net Points, all games

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_recor ... d_Cnf.html

Neither MEM or DEN leads their division. In the event of a tie with either or both, we get the advantage. Season-series are irrelevant as long as we take the Pacific and OKC and SAS lock up their divisions.

lobcityhawaii
CTB MVP X1
Posts: 3220

us.gif
votes: 4

sorry my mistake. i meant division winner.

lobcityhawaii
CTB MVP X1
Posts: 3220

us.gif
votes: 4

100% Correct.

clipperstown
CTB MVP X3
Posts: 11297
Location: Glendale, CA
am.gif
votes: 24

yeah if all 3 of us end up tied at season's end, we nab 3rd seed and avoid denver and memphis all together

slestack11
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 1053
votes: 6

I heard that the Clippers will not be any lower than the 4 seed if they win the division. But the 5 seed would have home court advantage if they had a better record than the 4 seed. This makes no sense to me. Why bother calling the Clippers the 4th seed if they don't have home court advantage?

Amnesty_David_Stern
Clipper All-Star
Posts: 2333
votes: 7

I don't think were in a bad situation either. Like someone said, when you get in the playoffs it's a 0-0 tie for all teams. Anyone can do anything in this sport. It wasn't that long ago that the 8 seed Knicks went to the Championship.

We'll have tough matchups the entire way, but one thing we have that other teams don't is a sweet bench. So we won't need to rely on every one of our starters to play huge minutes and get burnt out, and our starters have played less minutes the entire season as a result. Which in my mind means, they are going to be more fresh than other teams starters will be.

The key to our victory in the playoffs is going to rely heavily on CP3. He can't just be a set up guy, he needs to lead our team in scoring and not be afraid to take games over. The fact is there really aren't any PG's or anyone in the league that can guard CP3. The same goes for players like Durant, Wade and Lebron and so forth. CP3 needs to be our clutch player and our true #1 leader without a doubt in the playoffs.

Griffin needs to be there to grab boards and score for us. And we will need our role players to do exactly what they were brought in to do, score, rebound, play D, get steals etc. Nobody should be trying to expand their game in the playoffs that isn't named Chris Paul, Blake Griffin or DeAndre Jordan. I'd love to see those 3 play better defense, score more at a better rate, get boards and blocks, basically be pillars that the rest of our guys can gather around if need be.

wessleejr
Clipper Starter
Posts: 984

us.gif
votes: 2

This what I am thinking, I would rather switch a position with Memphis who has more wins in the 5th position but have a HCA rather a 4th seeder in the paper but without HCA. It's a useless position. Sad

Go To the Top of the ThreadGo Home

or Comment Using FB

Post new topic   Reply to topic


← Well, Congratulations Clippers... 50 Wins... Yay

→ Chemistry Not An Issue For The Clippers

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

register
You are an anonymous user- Register now!


Follow our Los Angeles Clippers RSS Feed, plus the Clippers Rumors RSS Feed, the LA Clippers News RSS feed, and the Clippers Forum RSS feed to get the newest updated Clippers News and Trade Rumors plus Clippers Game update in your RSS/XML reader!