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I understand playoffs are pretty much all that truly matters but I do have to give props. Going into the year I expected 52-54 wins and we have a great chance at 56 tomorrow. That's WITH a TON of injuries to key guys all year and a lull of 2 straight months of pretty much .500 ball.

I think in terms of regular season, all things considered... we've had an incredible year. Despite my griping (I see the long term consequences of mistakes) I do feel like we are all lucky to be a part of this. I never thought the day we were a "contender" would come but it's here.

Just last month we moved into "pretender" talks but I think winning 7 straight in blowouts to end the season is a HUGE momentum boost that can lead to a deep playoff run. Especially because we are fully healthy again now. Anyways congrats LA Clippers for a great year. Now let's finish strong with a dominant win tomorrow!

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So far so good yes, but my expectations are getting past the 2nd round. Anything beyond is an unexpected gift.

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I thought we were going to be a 59 win team. But I think we can go very far in the playoffs if we get home court in the 1st round.

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before the season I expected us to get about 50 wins and go out fighting in the 2nd rd

during the streak I felt we could come out the west and possibly beat miami

now Im hoping to make the west finals

so yes, Id say we surpassed MY expectations

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I predicted 55-58 wins, and I think I settled on 57 as my final answer. With a win tomorrow, I'll be happy being only 1 game off.

However, I also predicted WCF... which will be a lot tougher. Assuming Denver wins and we can beat Memphis, we need to steal one of the first 2 games against OKC... then it'll REALLY be a series.

Good going Clips... let's go into the playoffs streaking.

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I expected us to get around 55-60 wins and we reached that! I'm glad we're finishing the season strong! Now it's about winning in the playoffs. I will be happy if we make the west finals as that would be an improvement from last season. Greatest season ive been a part of. I loved last season and the 2006 season when we almost reached the west finals! Go clippers!!! Lets dominate the playoffs!!!

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I remember I predicted that I hate Bill Simmons. Whoa, I was right.

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Bill Simmons : "45 wins at best". Idiot.

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As far as regular season "yes" they reached expectations.

Now on to the playoffs, my expectations are getting past the 2nd round or atleast taking it 7 games which would be an improvement from last year.

Go Clippers! Let's Get it!

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Believe! We can do it! Bill Simmons and all those TNT haters and doubters need to get taught a lesson!

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In the beginning yes. I predicted hawks 2.0 during the off season and it looks like we're heading in that direction. Hope I'm wrong

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Hawks 2.0? Smh, what a horrible comparison.

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Its all about the playoffs brothas. There's a real chance we can get knocked out in the first round. There's also a real chance we win the whole thing. I will be at the home games and GLUED to my TV for every min of the road games. Let's do this CLIPPER NATION!

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Cool, I think we can be like the 58' Hawks also. Championship here we come.

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Lucky man! Make some noise at the games! Wish I could be there also! I'm able to take vacation early may so in hoping to go to a game then!

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if it wasnt for the massive 17 game win streak, we probably would've finished in the high 40s.

keep in mind we finished with 40 wins last year in 66 games, so it was a slight improvement.

the roster was an upgrade, but the overall design of the team is still sorely lacking.

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I predicted 55-60 wins. I don't think we ever reached our full potential, though we still have a very great chance to do that in the playoffs. I'm a little disappointed that Lamar Odom wasn't able to find himself offensively. We spent the entire season trying to use him as a perimeter player offensively rather than using him as a low post presence. I'm also disappointed we weren't able to properly integrate Grant Hill into the rotation. I thought that he'd be a very important part to what we did on the floor, and hopefully he'll still be able to make his presence known.

Overall, I think we could've done better, but of course our success will truly be determined in the playoffs. Wish were able to finish the season as a top 5 team defensively, but top 10 isn't bad.

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Rat own brother.

It's ONLY about the PO's. Am I dissapointed? I can't answer that question. This team has just jelled in the last three or four games. I was pretty PO'd at our 1/2 part of the season because mental focus or something wasn't there. This team could be a wrecking crew. We aren't just LobCity and everyone knows it. Paul and EB together put bumps on my goose or is it goosed my bump? It's the quickest and most dangerous back court around in the proper usage.

Hollins and WILLIE GUNS have come into their own. DJ is playing like a starting center but he needs hypnosis, the promise of lots of P***y (which he probably gets already or maybe if he keeps screwing up he'll have to spend some time in the backroom of the Spike which is was?a leather bar in Boy's Town

In all seriousness he needs to try hypnosis. Has he had his eyes checked? Is he trying for an NBA record. Why doesn't he try a bank shot?

If you exclude Roni, Hill and maybe Chauncey every guy on the roster can beat you. Which guy with the POSSIBLE exception of Hollins and Odom can't give you 10 pts and LO is a great rebounder. TooHip's psychic hotline: Hollins will give 7 pts 5 boards.

In reality this question is like "how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" Answer: If he works out, more than he used to" Speaking of Chuck how about a piece of wood upsiide his head?

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In the beginning yes. I predicted hawks 2.0 during the off season and it looks like we're heading in that direction. Hope I'm wrong

Hawks 2.0? Smh, what a horrible comparison.

perennial playoff shoe in but wont pass the 2nd round. let's see if these clippers can prove me wrong and advance to the wcf

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In the offseason I had no idea what to expect. The front office was extremely busy. They acquired Crawford, Hill, Turiaf, Odom, Hollins, Barnes,and Green one by one. Just when it seemed as if the front office was done they kept adding these guys to the roster. Hill was already a seasoned vet; he was a guy that was way past his prime, but was still very servicable despite his age.I didnt view Hills addition as anything big that would help the club really. Hollins, Green, and Turiaf were also unknown veterans that I didnt expect much from, but Green has been amazing, among these three he has exceeded expectations. Odom was the big wild card. We could have either gotten the version that played on the Lakers or the version that played for Dallas, we got a version somewhere inbetween (so he hasnt been a bust but certainly doesnt make me want to see him resigned). The Barnes signing was by far the biggest surprsie. Barnes is playing at the highest level of his career this season, and what he brings to this club cannot be described. Crawford was probably the one player that ended up being exactly what I expected. He was a scorer that has lived up to the highlights I saw of him on youtube when we first signed him. Overall, I would say the complete package of players have all been what was expected.

Now as far as the season its been a rollercoaster. One filled with ups and downs. OKC, San Antonio and others have remained consistent in the standings, not so with us. This team has been one that nearly gave me heart attacks at times, but Im glkad that we are closing the season the right way, and I think we are headed in the right direction.

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I thought we would be good,,I didn't know this would be accomplished. All the broken records and stats and wins that never happen or seemed like they never happened (like beating SA at home),,,,,this team has made a lot of the last 2 decades just seem like distant (and bad) memory.

Certain players really blew me away, Barnes, Jamal (or as the arena announcer calls him,,Jimmal), Ryan and even Lamar,,the way they meshed. Of course never to forget CP3 and Blake,,the real dynamic duo.

These playoffs could be fun.

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My expectations during the off-season was 55-60 win but there's no excuse as to why the Clippers didn't finish with 60+ wins and what's bad is that more than half of the losses had to do with laziness. I'm glad the Clippers picked it back up this month but they should have been more consistent. With that said, as a Clipper fan since I was Earl Boykins' height, I'm happy we're on this level and have a real chance at contending. I'm extremely proud of the Clippers and really grateful that us Clipper fans get to enjoy a fun, competitive team as opposed to another agonizing season in the lottery.

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They surpassed my preseason expectations but not midseason. We were so hot and then went the opposite direction so it was a little frustrating. Still stoked on our best record but not on the jefe and his play calling. Although the last few have been great

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For the season: almost but not quite. I thought we were a top 3 seed team, we just missed out. But great year regardless.

For the playoffs: i expect us to get to the wcf, but if we're hitting on all cylinders, we'll make it to the finals.

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He was only off by at least 10 wins, give him a break. 8)

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Playing the "IF" game huh...classic. Well IF we would have beaten some teams we should have we "could" have won 60+ games and gotten the 1st or at least the 2nd seed....circle jerk that "IF" game, lol.

We won @ a .606% last season. This year we're winning at at least a .679%, thats 10% better than last year. I love that kind of improvement, even IF you don't. wink

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Just re-sign CP3, make the right moves and the Clippers are a 55-65+ winning team for many years to come. Hopefully the Clips go on a 10+ year lottery drought.

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I really hope we play Memphis in the first round (which is what its looking like right now) Excited to see this team in the playoffs with a healthy roster. Loved the playoffs a series so much last year with Memphis but I think we will win this series a little easier. But overall im happy with this seasons outcome. Never thought we would have a chance at THE TITLE. Always thought we would be stuck in the shadow of the Lakers, but now we have our first division title and shooting for more!

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I would say cp3 has a good 5-6 years left. He will be 33 in 6 years. We should avoid the lottery for 6 straight years if we make the right signings and stay healthy for the most part.

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I have some beefs with this season.

  1. I don't like that Vinny hasn't (and might never) solve the Gregg Poppovich Rubiks cube. A series with the Spurs at this point is almost a guaranteed out.

  2. Bledsoe was my favorite player and VDN might have ruined him. Clearly the coaching staff told Bledsoe to slow his game down when he was starting in place of CP3; but that took him away from his normal menacing game of steals and non-stop attack. He hasn't been the same guy ever since.

  3. Lamar Odom is, in my opinion, the worst player in the NBA. Let me be clear, there are people with worse stats. But for LO's Size, Strength, Height, Experience and Hype; the guy still looks like a fumbling idiot most nights and VDN keeps giving him big minutes! We have guys like Hollins (admittedly a different skillset) who play the same position who are dieing to get minutes, and we're sticking with big lumbering LO. If I hear that LO is still "getting into shape" one more time, i think i'll jump off a bridge. Who's stupider? The guy attempting to play in the league of leagues that's out of shape, or the coach who plays him? Odom's playing time is a totally unsolvable anomaly,

  4. This summer Blake needed to add a reliable back to the basket move, and he didn't. He's a big man with truly no discernible big-man moves. He does some pump fakes and some spins/pivots and makes his way to the basket with no real plan of attack.

  5. Say what you will about Reggie Evans, say it all... but he was the heart and soul of this team and ANY slump we've ever got out of, was because of Reggie's relentless energy, strength and determination......................................................... ............................... and we let him go lol

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"make the right moves".....easier said than done.

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tense2 wrote:
A7XDreamTheaterClipps wrote:
Just re-sign CP3, make the right moves and the Clippers are a 55-65+ winning team for many years to come. Hopefully the Clips go on a 10+ year lottery drought.

"make the right moves".....easier said than done.

True, hopefully sterling isn't that cheap and realizes the potential of this team if he spends!

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lobcityhawaii wrote:
tense2 wrote:
A7XDreamTheaterClipps wrote:
Just re-sign CP3, make the right moves and the Clippers are a 55-65+ winning team for many years to come. Hopefully the Clips go on a 10+ year lottery drought.

"make the right moves".....easier said than done.

True, hopefully sterling isn't that cheap and realizes the potential of this team if he spends!

It's not if he spends, but on who he spends.

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I thought we would have fixed defending the 3 issue this off season. I also thought that we might have added some plays for when the offense starts to stall a little bit, but looks like we haven't done those. Overall though, I'm pretty damn happy. we have a chance to clinch home court with a win tonight (and possibly 3rd seed if denver magically loses), we've beaten the lakers 4-0, Chris Paul got the all star game MVP, and we've been pretty good heading into the playoffs. All I want in the off season is to re-sign CP3, and either have vinny fix our problems mentioned above or we get a new coach to do it.

Yeah, pretty nice season

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^^thats true but a lot of the teams that have won championships go over the luxury tax cap. I don't think we've ever did. I'm not saying that's necessary to win but sometimes if you want certain players you might have to.

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Pretty much met my expectations. Actually slightly lower. I thought we would be 3rd seed.

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  • Gregg Popovich has 68% career winning numbers and 71% for this year. Against us this year he is 50%... and but for dubious no-calls on a Duncan travel and Parker foul on CP3, he could be at 25%. So far this season, Vinny has matched up with him as well as any other coach in the league has... or can.

  • Bledsoe cannot play at his customary 200mph for starter's minutes. Nobody can. Even if he could, doing so would only magnify his shortcomings... fouls and questionable decision making. Since recovering from his injury, he has been back to the Bled we know and love... an energizer off the bench and a pesky perimeter defender. Nobody has "ruined" him.

  • Odom was always going to be a risk after last season. He may not have delivered on the highest of expectations, but he is much better than last year and CERTAINLY not the worst player in the NBA. He is also outrebounding Hollins (10.6 per36 compared to 7.6 per36) and dishing out 3.2 ast per36 compared to 0.6 per36 for Hollins. Those numbers don't even account for Lamar's ability to start a fast-break by grabbing a rebound and throwing a 60ft outlet pass (where he doesn't get credit for an assist). Hollins definitely has a place on the team, but Lamar is less mistake-prone and he is the only big we have who can replace Blake's playmaking while Blake is resting.

  • Blake's priorities last offseason were to improve his jumpshot and his FT shooting. He has done both. Can he get better in the post? sure he can... but it would be pointless if he can get fouled down there and not make opponents pay. Makes perfect sense to me to address flaws before working on an area he already dominates.

  • Reggie Evans wanted more years for more money than we were offering. We have a better record this year than we did last year, so him being the "heart and soul of the team" just isn't true by any metric apart from your opinion. Reggie is a one-trick pony whose one-trick is rebounding. Last year we ranked 22nd in Rebounding as a team... this year we rank 17th, so whatever we lost by losing Reggie, the slack has been picked up by the rest of the roster.

  • Sounds like your beef is mostly with the coach, with a little reserved for the F.O. because they didn't bring back one of your favorite players.

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    cleepers wrote:
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    I have some beefs with this season.

    1. I don't like that Vinny hasn't (and might never) solve the Gregg Poppovich Rubiks cube. A series with the Spurs at this point is almost a guaranteed out.

    2. Bledsoe was my favorite player and VDN might have ruined him. Clearly the coaching staff told Bledsoe to slow his game down when he was starting in place of CP3; but that took him away from his normal menacing game of steals and non-stop attack. He hasn't been the same guy ever since.

    3. Lamar Odom is, in my opinion, the worst player in the NBA. Let me be clear, there are people with worse stats. But for LO's Size, Strength, Height, Experience and Hype; the guy still looks like a fumbling idiot most nights and VDN keeps giving him big minutes! We have guys like Hollins (admittedly a different skillset) who play the same position who are dieing to get minutes, and we're sticking with big lumbering LO. If I hear that LO is still "getting into shape" one more time, i think i'll jump off a bridge. Who's stupider? The guy attempting to play in the league of leagues that's out of shape, or the coach who plays him? Odom's playing time is a totally unsolvable anomaly,

    4. This summer Blake needed to add a reliable back to the basket move, and he didn't. He's a big man with truly no discernible big-man moves. He does some pump fakes and some spins/pivots and makes his way to the basket with no real plan of attack.

    5. Say what you will about Reggie Evans, say it all... but he was the heart and soul of this team and ANY slump we've ever got out of, was because of Reggie's relentless energy, strength and determination......................................................... ............................... and we let him go lol

  • Gregg Popovich has 68% career winning numbers and 71% for this year. Against us this year he is 50%... and but for dubious no-calls on a Duncan travel and Parker foul on CP3, he could be at 25%. So far this season, Vinny has matched up with him as well as any other coach in the league has... or can.

  • Bledsoe cannot play at his customary 200mph for starter's minutes. Nobody can. Even if he could, doing so would only magnify his shortcomings... fouls and questionable decision making. Since recovering from his injury, he has been back to the Bled we know and love... an energizer off the bench and a pesky perimeter defender. Nobody has "ruined" him.

  • Odom was always going to be a risk after last season. He may not have delivered on the highest of expectations, but he is much better than last year and CERTAINLY not the worst player in the NBA. He is also outrebounding Hollins (10.6 per36 compared to 7.6 per36) and dishing out 3.2 ast per36 compared to 0.6 per36 for Hollins. Those numbers don't even account for Lamar's ability to start a fast-break by grabbing a rebound and throwing a 60ft outlet pass (where he doesn't get credit for an assist). Hollins definitely has a place on the team, but Lamar is less mistake-prone and he is the only big we have who can replace Blake's playmaking while Blake is resting.

  • Blake's priorities last offseason were to improve his jumpshot and his FT shooting. He has done both. Can he get better in the post? sure he can... but it would be pointless if he can get fouled down there and not make opponents pay. Makes perfect sense to me to address flaws before working on an area he already dominates.

  • Reggie Evans wanted more years for more money than we were offering. We have a better record this year than we did last year, so him being the "heart and soul of the team" just isn't true by any metric apart from your opinion. Reggie is a one-trick pony whose one-trick is rebounding. Last year we ranked 22nd in Rebounding as a team... this year we rank 17th, so whatever we lost by losing Reggie, the slack has been picked up by the rest of the roster.

  • Sounds like your beef is mostly with the coach, with a little reserved for the F.O. because they didn't bring back one of your favorite players.

    1. I don't care about Pop's career numbers. Last season we had a glorious 50% win percentage against San Antonio as well. A loss on Feb 18 and a win on March 9. And we were still swept rather convincingly.

    2. You missed my point entirely here. Ever since he relinquished the starters role, his overall intensity has still seen a drop, even with less minutes and an opportunity to play your endearingly named 200mph speed.

    3. You compared Hollins and Odom with Per36 stats. I can't expect everyone to be a mathematician but it's important to note how they calculate that stat. It's really only accurate when both players play close to 36 minutes a game. When a player sees dramatically less than 36, they use something called extrapolation to calculate what their numbers "could" be over 36 minutes. Hollins sees such a small amount of time, i wouldn't trust the Per36 stats, even if they proved my point. Even if they say Per36 he's putting up 100 a game, I wouldn't be foolish enough to cite them for the world to see. It's inaccurate, like when a player shoots 100% from the field at the end of the season, it's because he took one shot.

    4. I'm not sure if I should reply to this one, or let the loss in credibility speak for itself... "An area he already dominates"? His back to the basket game is a joke. He has to be facing the rim to be effective at all. He unquestionably SHOULD be working on big-man moves, considering he's a F***in big-man. By your logic, all point guards should be working on Sky Hooks because it's their "area of weakness." Plus I think we have dramatically different standards in vocabulary for the word "dominate." Shaq for example, he dominated. They invented a 3 second rule to mitigate his domination. Saying Blake currently "dominate"s the paint is like saying someone dominates ANY category by being above average at best.

    5. Sounds like you had your own feelings you needed to outlet regarding Reggie Evans. I never said he wasn't a one trick pony, or that we're worse at rebounding lol. Where did those come from? The only point I made was that his in-game spirit would always lift us out of slumps.

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    ^

    1. We were carrying injuries. Caron, Bled and our 2 best players were all playing hurt during that series. The fact remains that you are comparing our coach to the best in the league and this season he has matched up as well as anyone else.

    2. In case you hadn't noticed, Bledsoe has been injured for a while up until the last few games, where he has looked much more like himself. As for his "overall intensity", the whole team has seen theirs peak and trough all year long. If you want to say the coach has "ruined" all 12 guys, then go ahead.

    3. Nobody's saying that 1/1 FG made is representative of a 100% shooter, simply that Odom produces more rebounds and assists per minute than the guy who you feel should be taking his minutes... substantially more. The fact is that Hollins is a below-average rebounder at his position for his entire career. It was one of the gripes of his critics when we first signed him.

    4. Blake leads the league in points in the paint. While they're not all post-originated points, he is (as you stated) above average there. He was well BELOW average from the line which led to teams fouling him on the catch like they do with Jordan and Howard. FT shooting was a much more pressing need than post moves. He is still a viable option in the post, but now he can still get 2 points even if he's fouled down there.

    5. I have no issues with Reggie, but his "in-game spirit" didn't stop us from being swept. Hollins, Barnes and Bledsoe all contribute game-changing energy off the bench too. Our higher win% this year is evidence enough that we have a better squad no matter how irreplaceable you think Evans is.

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    Come on now. anyone here that says reggie over odom is missing one key ingredient....reggie is laying along side the, ok maybe one of the worst rebounding CENTERS in all of basketball. A center said the man.

    Odoms playmaking and defense plus can knockdown a jumpshot.

    Reggie can REBOUND. and defends.

    odom plays along jumping jacks who rebound better than Lopez.

    Heart and soul of a team that had a worst winning %. ranked worst in rebounding VS this years team??

    Notin like the present.

    #RepLac

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    ^ We were carrying injuries. Caron, Bled and our 2 best players were all playing hurt during that series. The fact remains that you are comparing our coach to the best in the league and this season he has matched up as well as anyone else. In case you hadn't noticed, Bledsoe has been injured for a while up until the last few games, where he has looked much more like himself. As for his "overall intensity", the whole team has seen theirs peak and trough all year long. If you want to say the coach has "ruined" all 12 guys, then....

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    1. So minutes played indicate that they were in full health? They were BOTH injured during the MEM series and carried those injuries into the SAS series. Those inside and outside the franchise acknowledge it. It's a fact.

    2. Bledsoe has been injured recently...he missed games because of it, came back early, then missed more games... another fact.

    3. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying (for the 3rd time now) that Lamar gets more rebounds and assists than Hollins per minute of game time. What's that? A fact.

    4. Did I not already mention that Blake's PITP are "not all post-originated"? Oh yes... I did. But is he converting better from the line this year? Yes he is. Fact.

    5. Sarcasm... compelling argument. Nobody called him a cancer... I said we have been a better squad without him. Another one of those pesky facts.

    You can ignore stats, injury reports and W/L % all you like, but I have provided solid numbers to refute your claims. Seems to me that apart from opinions and snarky comments... you've got nothing.

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    ^ We were carrying injuries. Caron, Bled and our 2 best players were all playing hurt during that series. The fact remains that you are comparing our coach to the best in the league and this season he has matched up as well as anyone else. In case you hadn't noticed, Bledsoe has been injured for a while up until the last few games, where he has looked much more like himself. As for his "overall intensity", the whole team has seen theirs peak and trough all year long. If you want to say the coach has "ruined" all 12 guys, then....

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    I was so sad when we entered the SAS series injured. The spurs are always exposed in the playoffs and if we manage to get to them before the Thunder do we are beating them. **** the Spurs

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    I think I put us at about the win total were at right now. I thought the mid/high 50's would be a stretch but here we are. I thought a 50-32 season was easily obtainable by the roster we had going into the year.

    I am not pleased that Denver destroyed everybody down the stretch and we didn't nab the 3 seed in the West, which to me, would have been optimal, now we face a team that is probably going to be our arch enemy for years to come. A team that could continue to face us in the playoffs yearly, and each year could change hands in who the winner is.

    This is why solid rotations, continuous solid play matter. Now were f***ed and we have the hardest matchup in the playoffs by far, even harder than the NBA Finals. These 2 teams going at it right now, are nearly identical in the matchup category, there are no vast differences in any 1 position and in the coaching area either. We are in for a world of hurt again.

    I'll cry if we win in round 1 again, only to realize that a 6-7 game series again is going to murder us for a matchup in round 2.

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    Yup, Clips exceded my expectations by a few games but Denver just blew my mind. They're the surprise of the season. Got to give it to them, they won a lot of games and earned that 3rd seed. If the season would have went another week, SA would have moved down too.

    I don't see Memphis as the toughest opponent for us. For most teams, they are a very tough matchup, for us I think we know them well and position by position we have more advantages than them.

    If you go 1st thru 8th man, really only Gasol is a clear advantage for Mem in the individual matchups. We will win this series just like last year. I only hope we do't exit the series with the entire roster injured again like last year.

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