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Post Subject: Marc Gasol is Jesus... Post ID: 377126by clipperAndrew » Apr 29, 2013 - 10:00 PM PST
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Post Subject: RE: Marc Gasol is Jesus... Post ID: 377134by ClippersSince97 » Apr 29, 2013 - 10:39 PM PST
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this is awesome

                
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Post ID: 377136by Amnesty_David_Stern » Apr 29, 2013 - 10:41 PM PST
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LOFL

                
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Post ID: 377137by seanrooks » Apr 29, 2013 - 10:58 PM PST
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He's playing like it...

                
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Post ID: 377139by david » Apr 29, 2013 - 11:03 PM PST
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LOL that's one funny pic lol Looks like Zach is giving Blake a lift as well.

                
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Post ID: 377140by ArtMaggot » Apr 29, 2013 - 11:05 PM PST
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We better play like Judas and kill these fuckers.

                
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Post ID: 377141by clipperAndrew » Apr 29, 2013 - 11:06 PM PST
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haha true that man. The guy can't miss. Maybe DJ should put his hands up...that might be a novel idea?

                
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Post ID: 377155by seanrooks » Apr 30, 2013 - 12:36 AM PST
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^Maybe VDN should play DJ more? He's not doing an amazing job, but he's better than Turiaf or Odom

                
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Post ID: 377156by Keatonsays » Apr 30, 2013 - 12:39 AM PST
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Blasphemy is always hilarious

                
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Post ID: 377159by Grillinnap » Apr 30, 2013 - 01:01 AM PST
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Zbo is like "PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!"

                
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Post ID: 377160by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Apr 30, 2013 - 01:19 AM PST
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aside from game 1, the answer is no. maybe turiaf. but hes not playing better than odom or hollins.

                
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Post ID: 377184by FightOnRon » Apr 30, 2013 - 09:18 AM PST
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I am sure Blake probably got called for a foul, putting his face into GaFlops hand

                
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Post ID: 377214by CP3Heliflopter » Apr 30, 2013 - 01:36 PM PST
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Odom has done an infinitely better job on the defensive end so I disagree. DJ leaves Gasol wide open and doesn't even close in on him or put his hand up.

                
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Post ID: 377219by ClippersSince97 » Apr 30, 2013 - 01:59 PM PST
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CP3Heliflopter wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
^Maybe VDN should play DJ more? He's not doing an amazing job, but he's better than Turiaf or Odom
Odom has done an infinitely better job on the defensive end so I disagree. DJ leaves Gasol wide open and doesn't even close in on him or put his hand up.

Isn't it BASIC fundamentals for the defender to keep their hands up in the high post against someone who can knock down that mid-range shot? I don't know why DJ refuses to put a hand up against Gasol or body him up. DJ's soft and apparently we're paying $1mil per IQ point...

                
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Post ID: 377262by Agent0 » Apr 30, 2013 - 05:37 PM PST
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...but then we kill ourselves after, so that means a massive collapse vs OKC, hmm, I don't think I like this plan.

                
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Post ID: 377263by Agent0 » Apr 30, 2013 - 05:38 PM PST
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ClippersSince97 wrote:
CP3Heliflopter wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
^Maybe VDN should play DJ more? He's not doing an amazing job, but he's better than Turiaf or Odom
Odom has done an infinitely better job on the defensive end so I disagree. DJ leaves Gasol wide open and doesn't even close in on him or put his hand up.

Isn't it BASIC fundamentals for the defender to keep their hands up in the high post against someone who can knock down that mid-range shot? I don't know why DJ refuses to put a hand up against Gasol or body him up. DJ's soft and apparently we're paying $1mil per IQ point...

Has nothing to do with being soft, has all to do with him having no clue how to guard a perimeter big man. Though Kaman could shoot, Clippers have never had a big man with similar skills to Gasol for DJ to be guarding in practice. He has no clue how to keep his hand in his shot pocket, and when he tries to guard the shot, he plays too close, and Gasol puts the ball on the floor and head jerks his way into a foul call.

                
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Post ID: 377265by ClippersSince97 » Apr 30, 2013 - 05:47 PM PST
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Do you see the way ZBo gets Blake out of the post? He gets his body in there and pushes Blake out to the 3pt line. DJ doesn't put a body on Gasol and gets outmuscled whether or not Gasol flops. That is the very definition of soft.

                
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Post ID: 377268by Agent0 » Apr 30, 2013 - 06:18 PM PST
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ClippersSince97 wrote:
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Has nothing to do with being soft, has all to do with him having no clue how to guard a perimeter big man. Though Kaman could shoot, Clippers have never had a big man with similar skills to Gasol for DJ to be guarding in practice. He has no clue how to keep his hand in his shot pocket, and when he tries to guard the shot, he plays too close, and Gasol puts the ball on the floor and head jerks his way into a foul call.

Do you see the way ZBo gets Blake out of the post? He gets his body in there and pushes Blake out to the 3pt line. DJ doesn't put a body on Gasol and gets outmuscled whether or not Gasol flops. That is the very definition of soft.

Soft just get's used way too much. The guy lacks some defensive fundamentals, it's not that he's scared of trying to fight for position, it's that he doesn't do it. Gasol isn't scoring when he does because he's getting too close to the basket, Gasol is scoring because the guards aren't doing a good job in containing Conley, and Gasol is getting open shots on the pick and pop.

Last game, Gasol played 42 minutes and DJ played 17, he played 60% of his minutes with DJ on the bench.

Here are Gasol's scoring numbers over the first 3 games: 16 pts, 33.3% FG, 11 FTA, .475 TS%, 40:54 mins 17 pts, 42.9% FG, 6 FTA, .511 TS%, 43:42 mins 16 pts, 46.2% FG, 8 FTA, .484 TS%, 36:00 mins


16.3 pts, 41.0% FG, 8.3 FTA, .490 TS%, 40.2 mins

Jordan's minutes over first 3 games: 30:40 minutes 23.58 minutes 24.29 minutes

Jordan playing less minutes has not correlated to decreased performance by Gasol in this series. In fact, like I mentioned before, Gasol's best game came with him playing 60% of his minutes with Jordan on the bench.

Gasol has been most deadly, not in the one on one mid-post iso's and shooting fadeaway jumpshots or hook shots, but actually his greatest effectiveness has come from assisted pick and pop jumpshots and from getting to the line.

Gasol is 10/17 in the series from 16-23 feet, and 90% (9/10) of those are assisted. He's 3/14 from 10-15 feet, and 66.7% (2/3) of those were assisted. He's only made 2 shots at the time, he's 2/4 there. When he's creating his own shot from 10-15, he hasn't been that effective as a shooter, but has been when driving. He's also 3/10 on hook shots in the series, with 33% assisted. Now he's also been good on his jumpshots from 3-9 feet. So keeping him closer to mid-post and making him create is the most effective defense.

Of course the FT shooting was an issue, he was getting the line too much, the Grizzlies as a whole have killed the Clippers at the line, +8 attempts/game and leading the playoffs in FT/FGA, but his field shooting and total efficiency has not been good in the games where DJ played a lot. He hit some annoying shots, but overall, 16.3 PPG in 40.2 mins on .490 TS% over the first 3 games was good defense on his scoring.

When DJ plays him too close, he drives and flails his head and gets to the line. When DJ gives him a little cushion, but get's him to put his back to the basket and make moves, he's actually been much less effective in this series. When DJ plays ice on the pick and roll ball handler, and Gasol is left open in the middle of the floor, that's an automatic basket.

How can the Clippers guard that better? Paul has always been weak at getting over screens, Bledsoe is much better. Bledsoe on Conley would probably help as it will allow the big to not have to get drawn so far away from Gasol on the pick and pop.

Rotating off Tony Allen who is a non shooter is the other option. With their starting lineup, the Grizzlies don't have good spot up 3PT shooters, so rotating off Allen or Prince and giving up a long mid-range jumpshot is actually a good defensive strategy.

                
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