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Post subject: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
 Posted: Dec 31, 2006 - 12:49 PM PST
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| With the trade dealine about 7 weeks away (Feb 21?), and the Ron Artest trade dead as a doornail, we might as well start an ongoing conversation about the lastest trade rumor for Corey Maggette. We will probably have a new one every week to consider. Hek, maybe every day. The lastest report has a conversation going down between the Clips and San Antonio centered around a possible trade for Brent Barry and Beno Udrih. Brent is second in the league in shooting percentage from beyond the arc and has lit it up the couple of games I saw him play this season. Both teams deny there is a deal brewing, just conversation. The problem for Corey is that he wants to start. At San Antonio, not only would he not start, they say his minutes would probably be less than with the Clippers. This is a problem for Corey. To get a trade to a team that would start him, he might end up with a bottom dweller in a town he doesn't like and with a franchise that might not be all that fun. There could be a price to pay for a starting job. He might be better off trying to stay here. He is oh so close to earning back his job as a starter. And the fans love hime here. What say you, Clipper fans? |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Dec 31, 2006 - 02:50 PM PST
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I can see Corey wearing many NBA uniforms but not the Spurs uniform...He simply doesn't fit well with the black, sad Spur uniform.Corey isn't a great defender so I doubt if Popovich wants a player like Corey.Furthermore, as you say JamFan, he won't be a starter and it's what corey really wants...
Anyone watched the Grizzlies game yesterday?I watched because obviously there were playing three spaniards but what I wanna remark is the great game of Mike Miller...6 3-pointers if I'm not wrong.He's definetelly a shooter and I would consider him if we had to trade Corey |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Dec 31, 2006 - 03:38 PM PST
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I agree wit JamFan - It'd be [expletive]ed-up if Corey leaves
He's been & still IZ a huge part of this team's heart & soul!
L.A. is a very special place. And to me the Clippers are mo' than jus' LA's other team. This franchise is my life! I know betta dayz be comin'! BUT I really wanted Corey to be there when the Clips make history.. 'Cause if he ain't a part of it, it won't be the same..
To me, Corey for the Clippers, is what Kobe is for the Lakers. And even more...
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“It’s tough being a Clipper. Nobody likes the Clippers. Everyone thinks we are a 2nd-rate team. They think college teams are better. It fuels our fire. We’re workin' hard, even through the dim stages. We’ve kept working.”
Corey Maggette
I know C.M. hasn't even scored 50 pts in a game.. But each and every year Corey's gettin' betta:
Increased scorin' in each of his first 5 NBA seasons, improved rebounding average by a full 2 boards & nearly quadrupled his assists since his rookie year. He doesn’t get in trouble off the court, makes nice with the media and is involved in the community. He even agreed to come off the bench!
And he’s not at all a finished product.
Corey doesn’t stop working. Ever. A lot of pro athletes talk about their offseason devotion to self-improvement. Corey lives it. He took off 3 days last summer, total - weekends & holidays incl. Three days for a family reunion down in Florida, nothing mo'.
Otherwise, he ran. He lifted. He shot. He balled. He did it again the next day. Whether he was workin' wit' trainers or shot specialists, Corey was on the job.
How can you not appreciate something like that...
A lotta folks have been guessin' he may leave... BUT they coulda been guessin' wrong
Don't let that whole mad season git ya down!
I feel stupid, but it's something that comes & goes
So why I gotta stand there
Hopin' for The Answer now?
We can cope without him,
We ain't that "lost & hopeless"!
I feel stupid, but I think da Clips can still catch on
I feel ugly, but I'm still bleedin' Blue, White & Red!
And that whole mad season won't knock me down!!
Shaliq PLEDGED HIS ETERNAL ALLEGIANCE TO CLIPPER NATION in 1999!
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Dec 31, 2006 - 04:52 PM PST
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If we have to trade Corey, I don't think we need a Beno cuz we already have Shaun, Sam & Daniel.
We don't need another point.
And besidez I would rather have Mike Miller instead of Brent Barry.
But I think it would be best if we kept CMagg
But If Not get Mike Miller |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 01, 2007 - 12:55 PM PST
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| All good thoughts, guys. As long as Corey keeps playing well, whether or not he starts, we are going to continue to hear new trade rumors. The next one is coming tomorrow. Some old ones may start up again, like Mike Miller. I think we will hear rumors with Chicago and Philly as well. Per minutes played, Corey is one of the most efficient players in the NBA, and comparable to Elton's stats per minute played. That means teams will be interested. He is young and his prime is just ahead of him. All this is the reason we should consider keeping him and go out, like Benoit said, and get an available free agent NBA veteran shooter like Keith Van Horn or Nick Van Exel. Or like I have been proposing, trading a second tier player, and a first round pick (and we have extra we do not need) to get a player like Mike Miller. Either of these scenarios deepens our lineup, and getting deeper is something we need to do bad. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 01, 2007 - 05:52 PM PST
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| I read that Van Horn wan't interested in playing anymore...He has earned many money...Van Exel must be in the same situation but if I'm not wrong he's a great friend of Sam Cassell...They know each other since the university so maybe he could be more interested |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 12:06 AM PST
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Sam Cassell and Nick Van Excel on the same team... old school swagger for sure.
As for the San Antonio trade - a resounding NO. From a quality perspective Brent Barry is nowhere close to Corey Maggette. Who is Beno Udrih? In the words of Kobe, am I suppose to know this guy? Brent Barry is starting to show signs of age and has lost a step. I could not see either of the two penciled in as starters; what the Clippers need is someone of legitimate all-star talent, not two role players. The Clipper bench is already deep enough as it is.
Besides, why in the world would you want to make a championship contender even stronger!? At least with Sactown you don't have a rival catapulted to a divisional crown merely by trading Maggette.
The thought of trading with the Spurs is infinitaely worse than JR Smith for CMagg -- and I was against that. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 10:04 AM PST
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| If we signed a free agent veteran, a Euro shooter, or D league player, it would be for a shooter to come off the bench for instant offense. If you were lucky enough to get a starter by just signing someone, that would be a miracle. If we trade Corey and other assets, it would for a player that is good enough to be a starter, otherwise, why bother. I do not think that Elgin is so hot to trade Corey unless he gets quality in return. Otherwise, Corey would probably already be gone. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 05:12 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
I do not think that Elgin is so hot to trade Corey unless he gets quality in return. Otherwise, Corey would probably already be gone.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 06:24 PM PST
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| Yeah that guy from the D League sounded pretty good, but don't we already have someone like that named Yaroslav Korolev? Isn't he supposed to be a good 3 point shooter? Maybe the Clippers should send him down to the D League and see what kind of #'s he puts up. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 02, 2007 - 07:30 PM PST
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| I think we need to get on from the trade rumors. We have the pieces we proved it last year. Corey is an important piece to the puzzle. He and Dunleavy should just get on with it and win. Hopefully we have made the turn and good things will come. Iverson is the only other player I would of traded Maggette for. But thats the past. Maggette is a scorer and we need one, he gets to the stripe at will. Does he frustrate me with his jump shot? of course but the guy gives it his all. What more can we ask for from a player? He has stayed true to the Clippers and the nation through good times and bad times, we should be loyal to him as well. |
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Post subject: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 10:58 AM PST
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| I agree with David. It seems it would better to have Yaroslav in the D league playing against competition than sitting at age 20 at the end of the bench never getting to play. But those decisions are probably being made by Dumleavy and we can't expect much creative thinking there. Better yet, send Yaroslav to the D, and recall Guillermo Diaz from Europe who is hitting over 60% from the field and over 50% from the 3. Wait a minute, this all sounds to easy. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 11:09 AM PST
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| Did anyone notice that Ron Artest "finally" went for 39 points last night. Good shooting percentage and he hit all of his free throws. Had 8 rebs and 5 steals. 39 was a career high. I guess it goes to show that Ron is capable, but he is only is showing up 1 game out of 20. His prior game he scored........uh........zero. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 01:42 PM PST
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I'd still take Artest in a second. And I think the Clippers would too if he was offered. For all of us hoping that Maggette and "Dumb-leavy" could work things out...it's not looking good. This is from todays Orange County Register:
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"When asked if he thought he would be with the Clippers through the remainder of this season, Maggette said emphatically, “No, I won’t be here.’’ Maggette has expressed to the Clippers his desire to be traded and the Clippers have been open to his agent, Rob Pelinka, contacting various teams to see what interest they have. “I don’t want to make my issue a big thing with the team,” Maggette said. “At the end of the day, I have to stay professional and play basketball.’’
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Post subject: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 02:20 PM PST
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Benoit_Benjamin wrote:
I'd still take Artest in a second. And I think the Clippers would too if he was offered. For all of us hoping that Maggette and "Dumb-leavy" could work things out...it's not looking good. This is from todays Orange County Register:
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"When asked if he thought he would be with the Clippers through the remainder of this season, Maggette said emphatically, “No, I won’t be here.’’ Maggette has expressed to the Clippers his desire to be traded and the Clippers have been open to his agent, Rob Pelinka, contacting various teams to see what interest they have. “I don’t want to make my issue a big thing with the team,” Maggette said. “At the end of the day, I have to stay professional and play basketball.’’
Well I suppose that pretty much cinches it. I hope they don't feel any pressure to get good value by the trade deadline since if they don't get good offers they should just keep him till the end of the season and maybe trade him in the off season. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 03, 2007 - 07:43 PM PST
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Artest for Maggette isn't a bad trade -- provided Dunlevy can get some answers directly from Artest.
Namely: Do you like it in Sacramento? If not, why? What do you think of the Clippers organization? What do you think of Dunlevy's system? What do you think you can contribute to the team?
If the Clippers could get good, honest answers from Artest than this would be the best trade Elgin can get midseason. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 09:50 AM PST
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Mike Miller 9 3 pointers!!!Are you looking for a shooter?I guess that the Grizz aren't going to trade him only for Magg right now...
About Artest I only can say that no news are good news |
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Post subject: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 10:49 AM PST
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| There are a lot of great basketball players out there. So why would you trade a great player like Maggette who consistantly goes out and does his job with great efficiency, for Ron Artest, who actually has only had one good season in his career. Every other season he has either been hurt, suspended, or disruptive to his team. Elgin summed it up the other day. We are not trading for Ron Artest. It's dead. And he is right. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 10:58 AM PST
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| One major publication is again speculating that Ray Allen is available. Seattle has lost 9 out of their last 10. They need to rebuild. They need to dump salary because not enough fans are showing up. The team is being sold. The team might be moving. They need a new arena. This all adds up to Ray maybe being on the block. They will then build around Rashard Lewis. When Ray was a free agent, there was speculation that he wanted to come to LA because of his Hollywood connections and the desire to go into acting in the off season and when he retires. He reportedly wants a big stage. Corey might go to Seattle, along with the extra first round pick we got that belongs to Minnesota (or our own pick) and with Rebraca's expiring contract. If Rebraca get healthy enough to play they would use him, since they are having big man trouble. Let's see if we hear more about this. Ray Allen is the anti Ron Artest. He has an excellent work ethic, he is a team leader in the locker room. He is an excellent outside shooter. I think he is a perfect fit. Think about it, if you had Ron Artest, would you trade him for Ray Allen? Yeah, in a New York minute. What do you think guys? |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 01:24 PM PST
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| Ray Allen, no doubt about it. Ray is the purest shooter in the league and an established 3-ball champion. But it seems questionable that the Sonics would rather rebuild around Rashard Lewis than Allen. To me it would rather be real Lewis or deal both. However, I think it would take more than Maggette, Rebraca, and a draft picks to equal Allen. Thank goodness the Sonics don't need a point guard. But I'm sure they'd inquire about Mobley or Ross. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 05:52 PM PST
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| I'd love Ray Allen on this team. I could handle giving up either Mobley or Maggette for Allen...but Mobley AND Maggette for Allen...I dont think so!!! Maybe a three-way trade could be worked out...who knows. |
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Post subject: RE: Latest Trade Rumors - Corey Maggette
Posted: Jan 04, 2007 - 07:17 PM PST
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Just wondering what publication spectulated that Ray Allen might be available? As far as Allen wanting to come to Los Angeles, I think that was all media speculation. He had the chance to come here when he was a free agent and the Clippers offered all they could. However, he resigned with the Sonics, citing that the Clippers track record worked against them. So instead of getting Ray Allen or Michael Redd that year, we had to settle for Cuttino Mobley. I don't think that one year of making the playoffs would get Allen thinking a different way.
There's not going to be too many big name free agents that are going to be jumping at the chance to come to the Clippers until they prove that they are winners. Guys like Allen, Redd, Gilbert Arenas, and Kobe Bryant all were offered max deals with the Clippers the last few years and all of them decided to sign elsewhere. That's why this year is so vital. If the Clippers regress and don't make the playoffs, they are going to be the same old Clippers. Making it to the second round last year means nothing unless you can back it up with another successful year.
As far as Maggette being a great player...he needs to make an all-star team first. He's a good role player right now and I like him. A recent article had an interesting quote about Corey and highlights his main problem as a Clipper.
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Scouts I trust tell me Maggette's penchant for a complete disinterest in defense should be a cause for concern.
Maggette will not be a great player until he correct this. He will be known primarily as a good offensive weapon. He has the ability so it's just effort. Until he's willing to change the way that people see him, he will always be on the trading block in Los Angeles. |
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