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Post Subject: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378833by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 01:28 PM PST
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All these unfortunate bad articles I'm having to share, I feel I owe it to my brothers to share an epic, positive one now. This is one of those once a year epics from ESPN on our team. Well done Ramona!

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/stor ... ruly-great

As frustrating as Blake is lately his drive to improve is strong so at least we have hope.



                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378839by sz123456 » May 03, 2013 - 01:42 PM PST
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Griffin is a workaholic. His free throw shooting has dramatically improved from this time last year. By next season his jumper will be useful, maybe not reliable, but useful.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378843by smittywerb » May 03, 2013 - 01:47 PM PST
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Blake has the drive. Just gotta become more efficient when it comes to a jumpshot.

                
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Post ID: 378844by lobcityhawaii » May 03, 2013 - 01:47 PM PST
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If his mid range jumper can become automatic like Malone, he would be unstoppable with CP3 in the pick and fade/row game. When the defense is trying to recover back to Blake when helping on CP3, Blake can hit the open jumper, ball fake and drive, or drive pass a charging defender.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378846by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 01:49 PM PST
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" Do they see eye-to-eye on everything? No. There are arguments over how the Clippers should play. There is frustration and friction from time to time."

Blake on CP3. This line below is very troubling though because this is what us fans want Blake to STOP doing.

"When I feel I'm playing at my best, I'm facilitating," Griffin says. "I like having the ball in the post -- not because I need to score every time, but because I like to make plays from there.

Sigh.. Blake you need to be our primary scoring and rebounding PF... We have an elite playmaking PG to facilitate.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378848by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 01:53 PM PST
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Blake's biggest single issue this season IMO is over passing and not attacking enough so last thing we need is him saying we wants MORE of the facilitating role.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378851by CapsNClips » May 03, 2013 - 01:59 PM PST
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Blake will be a whole nother animal next season when we can't rely on our depth and where he has to play 37 min a game. He might just be our best player next year.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378854by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 02:03 PM PST
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We need a coach who will push him to play 37-39 minutes a game. He's too much of a young, athletic freak of nature to be playing 32 minutes a game. He's not fu**ing 37 year old Duncan. He should be playing WAY more. CP3 I understand conserving because he's 3-4 years older, gets a lot of injuries and is a PG who gets floored a ton.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378855by CP3Heliflopter » May 03, 2013 - 02:03 PM PST
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There isn't anything wrong with being a facilitator but like you said he overpasses even when he has a good look sometimes. Sometimes I feel like he is afraid to score and defers too much. I think he will get it eventually. Even Lebron was like that at one point but now he knows when to attack and when to pass. BG needs to learn that. I feel like he would learn a lot more from someone like Lebron than Kobe. They are both power players and good passers from the post and very unselfish players. Its not about scoring its about making the right plays and sometimes the right play is just to score, sometimes it is to make the better pass. In the end its about getting the "best" shot available.

I know BG is a hard worker but I feel like he isn't necessarily working on the stuff he should be working on. His rebounding has regressed a lot. His defense has improved but still not up to par. His Ft shooting has improved. His jump shot has improved but is still very very shaky. I feel like his post game has not improved much at all though. He is still very stoppable in the post. He needs to be a more dominant post scorer and go back to crashing the boards more. Now I see him on the perimeter way too often. He should improve his jump shot but I feel like a post game is more important.

                
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Post ID: 378858by lobcityhawaii » May 03, 2013 - 02:13 PM PST
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^Good point. I agree, his post game is more important than his jump shot. He hasn't improved his post game enough.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378859by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 02:14 PM PST
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Good points Heliflopter. Like the article says I get excited when we see his "Neo" moments like when he has nearly 20 in first half of games etc. Problem is he never sustains it. Would be amazing if he could follow up with 15-17 in the second half of games too. Vinny though switches the second half to CP3/Crawford iso ball and benches Griffin WAY too long.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378861by CP3Heliflopter » May 03, 2013 - 02:16 PM PST
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I feel like VDN doesn't feature BG enough in the offense and doesn't really run any plays for him which is stupid. Then again i am not sure if he runs plays for anyone or if its just CP3 freelancing/winging it. This season I have only seen him have dominant games when CP3 was injured. He had some great first half but like you said he just isn't featured at all in the 2nd half which makes no sense.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378863by david » May 03, 2013 - 02:21 PM PST
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Nice interview with Blake. Blake used to play point guard before he hit his growth spurt, so that would explain his affinity to facilitate. I just wished that he would shoot more when he is in the paint right below the FT line. Just elevate and bank it home if you have to.

But it's great how he has improved his free throw shooting. Get even better there, but main thing is that he has to be a better outside shooter. Outside shooting should be his #1 focus this off season. Love it, embrace it, and the Clippers will be so much tougher to stop. If he can be a better jump shooter, guys like Zach Randolph would have to come out to challenge, opening up Blake's drive and also keeping Randolph away from the paint.

I also think he should work with DeAndre Jordan to improve their 2 man game. Blake handles the ball very well for a big man, so a wrinkle in the offense could be Blake running pick-n-roll with DJ. There would be very few big men tandem in the league foot-speed-wise who can keep up.

                
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Post Subject: RE: ESPN: Blake Griffin Can't Wait To Be Great Post ID: 378864by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 02:23 PM PST
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That's why I'm torn on rooting for us today. Why? Because if we lose 4 straight to exit the first round I'm 100 percent sure Vinny is gone and we know damn well Sloan, SVG etc will want the job. If we pull off a miracle and win in 7... Vinny's job gets safer and safer. Better to have one more heartbreak and do a partial rebuild, hire a top notch coach and make a TRUE run next year with better pieces than lock Vinny back onto our team.

                
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Post ID: 378866by lobcityhawaii » May 03, 2013 - 02:26 PM PST
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Interesting idea about the 2 man game with DeAndre.

                
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Post ID: 378867by CP3Heliflopter » May 03, 2013 - 02:28 PM PST
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I rather have DJ gone. Its been what 4-5 years? He has barely improved at all. His ft shooting has actually regressed and I think he is a bad influence on Blake. He needs to grow up. He should be doing that on another team not on a team that wants to contend. He can do that on the Bobcats.

                
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Post ID: 378868by david » May 03, 2013 - 02:31 PM PST
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Yeah I think with practice it's a play that could work with Blake's ball-handling and passing skills. Esp. against Memphis- this way you can get Randolph and Gasol further away from the basket. Blake would have to get better at the jumper also for this to consistently work.

And yeah, assuming DJ is not traded, of course.

                
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Post ID: 378869by Clippersfan86 » May 03, 2013 - 02:32 PM PST
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DJ had the lowest FT percentage of any player that qualified for worst in the NBA. The only worse was Drummond I believe in general. Do people know that DJ shot 11 percent from the line in April. That means in April and May combined DJ is shooting a shocking 16 percent from the line. I don't think people quite understand the magnitude of that. That makes Shaq's free throw shooting look like Steve Nash.

If his defense was at least Tyson Chandler level by now it would be fine but it's declined rapidly despite what some people say. I remember in 2010-2011 he looked like a DOMINANT defender. He's a shell of that player.

                
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Post ID: 378871by lobcityhawaii » May 03, 2013 - 02:40 PM PST
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david wrote:
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Interesting idea about the 2 man game with DeAndre.

Yeah I think with practice it's a play that could work with Blake's ball-handling and passing skills. Esp. against Memphis- this way you can get Randolph and Gasol further away from the basket. Blake would have to get better at the jumper also for this to consistently work.

And yeah, assuming DJ is not traded, of course.

I think DJ should be traded though, but if isn't, Blake would have to master the mid range jumper. Otherwise, the defense is not going to respect his shot and will go under the screen.

                
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Post ID: 378872by lobcityhawaii » May 03, 2013 - 02:42 PM PST
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DJ has to be one of the worst ft shooters ever. Chris Dudley was pretty bad but it's pretty debatable between those 2.

                
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Post ID: 378889by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » May 03, 2013 - 03:21 PM PST
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yeah its nice and it would be great to see DJ traded, but we would have to sacrifice ebled for any team to take dj's bloated contract. i mean, someone could amnesty him, but what makes us think we would get anything back for him

                
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Post ID: 378891by Amnesty_David_Stern » May 03, 2013 - 03:23 PM PST
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Blake needs to stop working on offense ( outside of a post game and FT's ) and focus more on defense and BOXING OUT FOR REBOUNDS.

                
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Post ID: 378900by Voyeur » May 03, 2013 - 03:33 PM PST
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Tremendous article.

                
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Post ID: 378912by david » May 03, 2013 - 04:17 PM PST
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Yup- exactly. If Blake becomes a very reliable jump shooter, all sorts of possibilities open up. It's getting better, just not quite there yet. We need it to the point where the other team will rush up to him to challenge his jumper. Right now the defenders are just like- go ahead....

                
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