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Amnesty_David_Stern
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How do you not win 1 game over the next 4 to at least put it at game 7 to be played at home? We spanked them in game 1 and it looked like it was a done deal after game 2. Maybe on the plane ride to Memphis the guys saw a ghost because they looked lost and terrified.

All I have left to say is, let's get a defensive minded coach, explore a solid trade for Bledsoe that brings back either a starting SG/SF or a 1st rounder ( but not in this year's draft ). Oh, and get rid of DJ.

I'll be around, I'm a little upset but I'll be around.

Clippersfan86
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Worst part is we are the ONLY NBA team ever to not just lose the 4 straight but to lose all 4 by double digits.

lobcityhawaii
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Yeah, that was sad and frustrating and it will be hard to get over. But looking forward to this off season and making this roster better.

Grillinnap
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2 consecutive years now that we were eliminated out of the playoffs by losing 4 streaight games. So yeah, we basically got swept in this series.

david
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Man- this dubious distinction is as bad to the degree that historic game 1 comeback last year was good.

clipper321
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I think you need to re-check your history sir. Just off the top of my head I can think of a team last year that lost a series after being up 2-0.

The Thunder won the WCF last year after being down 0-2 and won the series 4-2.

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cant help but to notice how bad the reffing became in those 4 losses. the grizzlies shot 64 more ft's in the series. the only game the clips got more ft attempts was game 1, where we manhandled them. coincidence, i think not. but thats the thing, every coach in the nba gets fined for criticizing the refs, except for vdn. smh

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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by the way i looked at the box scores. in the 6 games, the clips shot 142 ft's. memphis shot 206. just saying

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Nah. 3 of the 4 wins by OKC were in single digits.

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bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
Worst part is we are the ONLY NBA team ever to not just lose the 4 straight but to lose all 4 by double digits.

cant help but to notice how bad the reffing became in those 4 losses. the grizzlies shot 64 more ft's in the series. the only game the clips got more ft attempts was game 1, where we manhandled them. coincidence, i think not. but thats the thing, every coach in the nba gets fined for criticizing the refs, except for vdn. smh

When are people going to accept the Grizzlies were a better team? The referees did not decide this series we got manhandled since the second half of game 2. roll

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Grillinnap wrote:
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I think you need to re-check your history sir. Just off the top of my head I can think of a team last year that lost a series after being up 2-0.

The Thunder won the WCF last year after being down 0-2 and won the series 4-2.

Nah. 3 of the 4 wins by OKC were in single digits.

Im going based on the title of this thread. It is incorrect.

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clipper321 wrote:
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clipper321 wrote:
I think you need to re-check your history sir. Just off the top of my head I can think of a team last year that lost a series after being up 2-0.

The Thunder won the WCF last year after being down 0-2 and won the series 4-2.

Nah. 3 of the 4 wins by OKC were in single digits.

Im going based on the title of this thread. It is incorrect.

In the OP's defense, the original title was "Up 2-0, Lose 4-2?" David edited the title.

lobcityhawaii
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clipper321 wrote:
bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
Worst part is we are the ONLY NBA team ever to not just lose the 4 straight but to lose all 4 by double digits.

cant help but to notice how bad the reffing became in those 4 losses. the grizzlies shot 64 more ft's in the series. the only game the clips got more ft attempts was game 1, where we manhandled them. coincidence, i think not. but thats the thing, every coach in the nba gets fined for criticizing the refs, except for vdn. smh

When are people going to accept the Grizzlies were a better team? The referees did not decide this series we got manhandled since the second half of game 2. roll

The grizzlies were the better team I admit, but the reffing was terrible against us. I do give the grizzlies credit for outplaying us.

clippermitch
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This claim is incorrect. San Antonio beat OKC the first two games last year and lost the next four.

Anyways, still sucks. Once we lost Game 5, I knew it was over.

david
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My bad- I read Clipperfan86's post and assumed it was correct. I'll go ahead and re-edit the title.

Clippersfan86
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9 teams have came back from 2-0 to win 4 straight. ZERO have won all 4 of those games by double digits besides the Grizzlies in this series. I should have elaborated further.

lucas26
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the more things change, the more they stay the same. Sigh....

smittywerb
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Why? Grizzlies slowed the game down and turned it into a half court game (our weakness). We were able to win the first 2 because we were able to run them out the building.

Voyeur
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I'm not gonna BLAME the refs, per se. I think Memphis took the series away from us...

Having said that, you know OKC is watching game tape thinking, "Holy crap, I hope the officials don't let the Memphis bigs do to us what they did to L.A.!"

clipperAndrew
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I will say this...I Hope memphis gets the Finals. It will sting a little less in my opinion if they do. It would show they are just that good. They exposed some serious flaws in our team I am disappointed, but kudos them. Randolph and Gasol are just beasts and I don't see any team matching them their and I think OKC is going to lose to them. Tony allen is tenacious, Conley was balling and so was their bench. I hate and love them.

Amnesty_David_Stern
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I just can't believe we couldn't have given them more of a fight. Outside of CP3's 35 point performance and Matt Barnes going nuts last night I really didn't see much fight in the team. I said it before that the Grizzlies are probably the only team that could have beaten us in round 1 and I was right. Sadly, I was right.

After Westbrook went down and we were up 2-0 I really thought that maybe we could be in for a really special season. I think this is the end for Vinny. I thought he coached well the last year + after getting his crap together after all the rumors were flying towards the end of last season. While I think he did an ok to good job here, it's time to move on.

Who will the team get to coach is my question? Sloan is rather old but would probably be an ideal fit as he coached 2 hall of fame PG/PF combo for years. I really hope upper management really looks outside the box and gets a winner. Mark Jackson has done one helluva job in Golden State, but you also have to credit the moves they've been making as well.

My biggest concern is not getting ripped off if we trade Bledsoe. I am all for him being on our team to start the year, and maybe work a trade out during the season that is beneficial to us, but I'd prefer to get something done before the season begins in case we get players back so they can meet with the team more.

My one wish for the Clippers this summer is that they trade DJ. I think it's crystal clear he's not going to be getting much better than he is right now, unless there are some miracle coach/staff signings and he gets a better attitude. I'd give up a lot to see a guy like Larry Sanders in a Clipper uniform.

CP3Heliflopter
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Yes the reffing was pretty bad but it didn't help that we couldn't play D on their Gasol and Zbo without hacking them....

Its embarrassing that we set a record in this way.

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Meh... "4 games in a row", "double-digit losses", "first time ever" or "happens every year"... bottom line is, I don't give a rat's arse.

Might as well dig up stats about how teams are 52% likely to win on Fridays. History remembers only 2 things... who won and who lost.

We lost and we shouldn't have. Simple as that.

CP3Best
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This was one of the best years to beat the Grizz when the Thunder are weak and we actually had a chance to beat them and we SCREW it up. This is just unbelieavable.

hoopfanjd31
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This. Plus, the real reason we lost game 6 by double digits was Joey Crawford, so it doesn't really even count to me.

chriswylde
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Vinny's last 10 playoff game record with the Clips is 2-8. Luckily he's Vinny Del Donezo

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hoopfanjd31 wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Meh... "4 games in a row", "double-digit losses", "first time ever" or "happens every year"... bottom line is, I don't give a rat's arse.

Might as well dig up stats about how teams are 52% likely to win on Fridays. History remembers only 2 things... who won and who lost.

We lost and we shouldn't have. Simple as that.

This. Plus, the real reason we lost game 6 by double digits was Joey Crawford, so it doesn't really even count to me.

No question he helped Memphis score 118. 47 ft attempts. Lmfao.

lobcityhawaii
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Yeah it's sickening...

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clipper321 wrote:
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Worst part is we are the ONLY NBA team ever to not just lose the 4 straight but to lose all 4 by double digits.

cant help but to notice how bad the reffing became in those 4 losses. the grizzlies shot 64 more ft's in the series. the only game the clips got more ft attempts was game 1, where we manhandled them. coincidence, i think not. but thats the thing, every coach in the nba gets fined for criticizing the refs, except for vdn. smh

When are people going to accept the Grizzlies were a better team? The referees did not decide this series we got manhandled since the second half of game 2. roll

who gives a s*** about what you think. the facts speak for themselves. it is very apparent. sorry you are too myopic to see that. did they outplay us to an extent, yeah. but you cant expect to outplay them when you try to play physical and the refs dont let you play. 64 ft's more in a series where both teams were trying to play physical is ridiculous. its the f****n playoffs. i am not disputing that billups, DJ played atrocious. that vdn didnt make adjustments. but to sit here and spew bs like clipper321's statement and act like the refs had no part in our loss is ignorance.

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who gives a s*** about what you think. the facts speak for themselves. it is very apparent. sorry you are too myopic to see that. did they outplay us to an extent, yeah. but you cant expect to outplay them when you try to play physical and the refs dont let you play. 64 ft's more in a series where both teams were trying to play physical is ridiculous. its the f****n playoffs. i am not disputing that billups, DJ played atrocious. that vdn didnt make adjustments. but to sit here and spew bs like clipper321's statement and act like the refs had no part in our loss is ignorance.

Lol angry much? This Clipper team was not physical that went out the window when we lost Reggie and Kenyon Martin. As Charles Barkley said this Clipper team was softer than tissue paper.

I stand by my statement. We didn't lose because of the referees, and to believe otherwise is just being in denial that the better team beat us in 6 games, 4 of which were blowouts.

bullterrierclipsfan1349
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im not mad, just stating the facts. the four blowouts were in games where the ft discrepancy was very obvious, especially in game 3 and game 6. in game 3, both teams shot 39 percent from the field. the grizzlies shot 19 more ft's. game six, the clips played well, yet the grizzlies shot 23 more ft's. to say that the refs didnt influence the game in any way is blissful ignorance, which is a statement i will stand by. again, i am not discrediting the facts that DJ,billups and to a certain extent ebled were no shows in the series, and that vdn was outcoached to a certain extent.

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Once again we have a comprehension error. I said the referees did not make the difference in the series. The griz outplayed us period

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The ft discrepancy was inflated due to the fact that we couldn't play defense on their bigs without hacking. In fact, it got so bad at one point that we committed two three second violations in a row and another one soon after. The reffing was bad but even if it was fairly officiated we still would have loss in 6.

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I glad that we lost in the way we did because to be honest if we had any utside shooting in that series we could have won. Its just impossible to try and play Memphis at an inside game. This should let the front office know that we need to add shooters to this team because we just dont have the inside game to best teams like Memphis. Also, Did you watch todays game between OKC and Memphis? The Thunder were hurting the grizzlies with their shooting and even though the Thunder barely won they did it without Westbrook. This is a series that the grizzlies should win, but I doubt they will because isee that any team with shooters can do that all day long against them and simply pack the paint to at least limit Gasol and Randolph.

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@clippers321, just by not recognizing that there was a significant ft discrepancy doesnt mean there wasnt and that it did not play a factor. like i said, they grizzlies beat us playing on the inside and billups got torn to shreds by allen. dj disappeared and ebled didnt show up. @cp3heliflopter, memphis kept playing illegal defense and nothing was called, yet the clips got two illegal defenses called on them in a row? when has that happened? coincidence, i think not. @pagec4, i agree with u. thats why i want the clips to get rid of some players (DJ), try to free some money up and go after reddick, korver and/or jeff green. draft a good shooter in the draft ( mcdermott) and maybe a backup center who plays defense (jeff withey)

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Actually Memphis is just very very good on the defensive end.

This article questions whether Gasol was deserving of the DPOY award (which they agree he was), but they also make it clear just how good the team defensive (inside/outside) was.

http://wagesofwins.com/2013/04/25/was-m ... -the-year/

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It's extremely gross how we lost after being up 2-0. SMFH Embarassed

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