Do You Want Vinny Del Negro to Stay or Leave?

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I know you'd like to say it's up to CP. But what if it were up to you? Just vote, please.

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Obviously he shouldn't be the coach, but I really really would love it if he could work up in the front office with Gary Sacks because he knows this team better than anyone (Including Paul)

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I would love to see what he's got in the front office, too. He's had that job before in Phoenix. But unless it's the main GM position, I don't think his ego can handle a demotion after all the success he had in the regular season.

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Yeah, he would probably rather coach the Bobcats than take a lower level GM job. Anything can happen though.

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id want him to be the gm. im surprised prokreation and clippersam havent voted 25 times each "no" hahaha

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VDN has a lot to learn... But it will not be at the cost of the Clippers future. If first round exit does not open the eyes of the Clippers organization that the Clippers need an elite coach with a system that has not only a half court offense but focuses on defense even more than I don't know what will.

VDN does not have my vote and should not get the benefit of the doubt because the Clippers had a season full of records and what not.

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^that said, its probably up to CP3. i dont like that, because the clips need to be the ones in control, not one player, regardless if that player is CP3

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a gm? u sure. this is the same guy who built a team of softies

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Want to hear something that might scare some of you avid Vinny haters? CP has had bad seasons with coaches like Byron Scott, Monty Williams and Mike Malone as assistant coach and he still recommends them for coaches. So what's the difference of Vinny? What if he really likes him like he's liked past bad coaches? I think our decision to fire or hire Vinny is going to come from DTS not CP3. Scared yet???

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If this was the older Clippers I think VDN would be a great fit but if we are serious about a title we need a coach with more experience.VDN has grown a lot since when we first got him but we can't wait for him to improve if we want to win a title in the near future.I think he should coach s young team that he can grow with like the Suns.I think that would be a good fit for him.

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He wasn't terrible, but I don't think he harnessed the teams potential.

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Kinda like asking, "would you prefer living in your current home or somewhere else?"

Any sensible person would want to see the alternative.

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I agree in part... I don't think it's up to CP3 but I do believe that CP3, Blake, and Clippers organization will choose a coach together. These two are the faces of the organization and need to be involved in this matter WITH the organization. Just to let CP3 chose a coach with Blake or Clippers having a say is just ridiculous... I hope that's not what's going on.

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Game 6 of the playoffs is your answer.

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I voted leave. To explain myself I will try to keep it short. Vinny did a good job since his arrival here. He came here when we didn't have much at all to be a legit playoff contender. He went from a 39% win percentage to a 60% to a 68%. The last 2 years were the 2 best years in Clippers regular season history.

Although he and the coaching staff helped improve our team greatly over the last few years, I think it's time for a change. Vinny to me seems like he should be in player development somewhere, or scouting. He's a great developer of talent but I just don't think he knows the right things to do with said given talent.

We need a coach that is more defensive minded. We gave up too many 3pters and shot too many 3pters. Only 2 guys should be given free will to shoot 3pters on this team, Crawford and Billups. A defensive minded coach also tends to use guys in the post a lot, which is something we saw Blake not do so much this year.

I thank Vinny for his time here and wish him well. If he's back for 1 more year then he's my coach and I'm behind him. But I think we need to look somewhere else for a coach to take us to the next level. I'd also like our new coach to do something to influence the guys upstairs to trade DeAndre.

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vinny or not, with the team that we had with all that depth we easily should have been at least to the western conference finals. my only problem with vinny was his line up rotation because it was so inconsistent. i don't think he knew who his 8 best players were and thats a problem in the playoffs.

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Excellent way to put it

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divinebeast wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Kinda like asking, "would you prefer living in your current home or somewhere else?"

Any sensible person would want to see the alternative.

Excellent way to put it

Yes, except if your current home were a cardboard box. Obviously, you'd still want to see the alternative in case it's a smaller cardboard box. But you'd likely end up preferring the "somewhere else."

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Was that when the players gave up and walked home with their ball?

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And most people thought that with a lineup the Lakers had, they'd win the title during preseason. I knew otherwise and was pretty spot on.

Depth don't win you titles. Highest payroll don't win you titles. Coaches don't win you titles. There is a balance somewhere that few teams have achieved.

VDN had to balance a tough roster and that was the biggest question going into the season. By what I've heard, he managed that VERY WELL. I am certain VDN knew who his best 8 players were, he still had to perform a juggling act most of the season. Some of it to please players, and some due to injury.

Vinny's rotations are up to debate but I don't think any of us are in the business of coaching. It's easy to say his rotations were bad when the result didn't net us anything positive. A + B equals C type of analysis.

Or player A should be benched a minute after the game has started cause he caused a turnover or isn't playing defense. Player B should be in cause he'll do better. These are the kneejerk reactions I read on a daily basis. Those are the reasons people give to fire VDN. People think it's that black and white. What about a coach relying on his players to work it through? How about not wanting to make a change early so the second unit can play together and get us back into the game, or take the lead?

If people actually made great arguments when the griping was going on, I might have been persuaded...That never happened. In fact, it made question these people more.

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seanrooks wrote:
divinebeast wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Kinda like asking, "would you prefer living in your current home or somewhere else?"

Any sensible person would want to see the alternative.

Excellent way to put it

Yes, except if your current home were a cardboard box. Obviously, you'd still want to see the alternative in case it's a smaller cardboard box. But you'd likely end up preferring the "somewhere else."

I think Vinny is an old apartment in one of the grosser areas of Santa Monica

I'm okay staying here if I can get some of the mold off the walls and maybe paint the place

What if moving means I end up in Watts? That's no good

It could also mean I'm moving to Beverly Hills but I need to know which one before I make a decision

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That's fine and all but if you can upgrade to Stan Van Gundy you upgrade.

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Depends on what your definition of upgrade means. The name alone isn't a guarantee. I know he was successful with Center and a bunch of shooters but can that translate to a team with a horrible center and Ok shooters?

In other words, this would be the fist time he won't have a center named Shaq or Dwight...Think about that.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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That's fine and all but if you can upgrade to Stan Van Gundy you upgrade.

Depends on what your definition of upgrade means. The name alone isn't a guarantee. I know he was successful with Center and a bunch of shooters but can that translate to a team with a horrible center and Ok shooters?

In other words, this would be the fist time he won't have a center named Shaq or Dwight...Think about that.

It's not about his name it's about his defensive schemes which were brilliant

He worked under the great Pat Riley as did Erik Spoelstra both phenomenal defensive coaches in every regard

You know what Vinny Del Negro is known for? I'll let Pop explain it

"Some of the stuff we do on defense, we actually have one thing we call on the pin downs, we say we're going to 'Del Negro it' and that's in his honor and we've done that for 15 years," Popovich said. "We have a Del Negro defense out there because he couldn't play a lick of D. At times we had to invent something just to hide him, so we call it 'Del Negro' and you do certain things on the court and everybody has to make up for that guy who's the 'Del Negro.'"

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Oy vey. You are aware that was him as a player, not a coach...Right?...Right?

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clipper*joe wrote:
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It's not about his name it's about his defensive schemes which were brilliant

He worked under the great Pat Riley as did Erik Spoelstra both phenomenal defensive coaches in every regard

You know what Vinny Del Negro is known for? I'll let Pop explain it

"Some of the stuff we do on defense, we actually have one thing we call on the pin downs, we say we're going to 'Del Negro it' and that's in his honor and we've done that for 15 years," Popovich said. "We have a Del Negro defense out there because he couldn't play a lick of D. At times we had to invent something just to hide him, so we call it 'Del Negro' and you do certain things on the court and everybody has to make up for that guy who's the 'Del Negro.'"

Oy vey. You are aware that was him as a player, not a coach...Right?...Right?

You know the irrational Vinny haters who make stuff up to make him look bad?

You're being an irrational Vinny supporter by trying to make a potential replacement look bad even though there's all the evidence in the world that he's a more intelligent coach than Vinny

I have no problem with Vinny staying if Byron Scott or even Nate Mcmillan are going to be his replacement but we're talking about Stan Van Gundy

He's one of the three best defensive coordinators in the NBA and there's nothing to suggest that would change with this team

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He needs to go. He's a "player's" coach. We need someone that will demand respect and hold player's accountable.

How many games did we lose because of stupid technical fouls? 3-4?

We were only 2 games out of the 2 seed and we should still be playing right now if we played the Fakers.

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jarca wrote:
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id want him to be the gm. im surprised prokreation and clippersam havent voted 25 times each "no" hahaha

a gm? u sure. this is the same guy who built a team of softies

same guy who managed to convince FA's to come in due to the way he was able to sell them the idea that the clips are on their way to becoming a contender. he knows how to sell the clips to FA's

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seanrooks wrote:
divinebeast wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Kinda like asking, "would you prefer living in your current home or somewhere else?"

Any sensible person would want to see the alternative.

Excellent way to put it

Yes, except if your current home were a cardboard box. Obviously, you'd still want to see the alternative in case it's a smaller cardboard box. But you'd likely end up preferring the "somewhere else."

I'll go ahead and assume you're analogizing the cardboard box to Vinny. Would that make Mike D'Antoni - who many of the amateur coaches here were crying out for a year ago, and who barely made the playoffs with his all-all-star lineup - the smaller cardboard box?

These are the type of people who, every single day, are suckered out of their hard-earned cash by "African Princes" on the internet who promise to split millions with them if they'll only give their bank account details.

I'll trust my own judgement on the "somewhere else", thanks.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Game 6 of the playoffs is your answer.

Was that when the players gave up and walked home with their ball?

I think del negro didn't make adjustments until that last game. He was just out coached

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To be fair to D'antoni he'd do better with a roster appropriate for his specialty

The same goes for Vinny too

If Chris had a three point shooter like Peja to pass like say Ray Allen (who wanted to be a Clipper by the way) the Clippers might still be playing and there would be no talk of Vinny's head yet

Unfortunately the NBA isn't really fair in that regard and ultimately it's win or get fired now.

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Is this a serious question? Is there actually a good reason to bring him back other than "continuity"?

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Bye Vinny.

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How did those adjustments work out? We threw the proverbial kitchen sink at them and it didn't work. What makes you think that it would have worked out 2-3 games prior? The plan was simple. Put our bigs on their bigs and make the best men win.

So Turiaf and Hollins were the key to the series? That was the only adjustment left to counter them. They won cause Randolph and Gasol were nearly perfect and we had a limping BG and the basketball master we call DJ.

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^^^Well, maybe those adjustments would have made a

difference if VDN would have implemented them when BG was still at full strength. Plus, VDN pretty much negated the effectiveness of the adjustments by trotting out Billups and Jordan as the second half starters. We all of a sudden were down 14 with that line up in and never could come back. We almost came back, but VDN messed up again by putting Billups in, who then had the worst turnovers of the game for us. So, I don't really buy that the adjustments wouldn't have mattered.

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the 2 who voted stay must B grizz trolls

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divinebeast wrote:

You know the irrational Vinny haters who make stuff up to make him look bad?

You're being an irrational Vinny supporter by trying to make a potential replacement look bad even though there's all the evidence in the world that he's a more intelligent coach than Vinny

That's funny. Speaking of irrational, why would you use a quote about VDN the player to support your case about VDN the coach? That's irrational.

Anyway, how am I making Ron Jeremy look bad? I posed simple questions I have about how he'd do with a totally different set of players he's used to. I simply said that there are no guarantees that he will do better. That's not making him look bad, that's a serious question.

But hey, you don't think there is merit in my question about a coach dealing with a different set of players he's not used to? Don't believe me?

Then read this from a guy who believes a coach needs a certain type of players to excel:

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To be fair to D'antoni he'd do better with a roster appropriate for his specialty

Do you believe that guy? I'm sure you do cause that was you after calling me irrational. So if you believe Antoni needs the right type of players to do better, then me saying SVG isn't a guarantee that he would make this team great without a center, isn't really irrational, right?...right??? ...RIGHT????

Dude, using your rationale, SVG is most likely to fail or meet expectations based on being a Antoni apologist.

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Sorry guys I was testing a new functionality on polls where it will allow you to see who voted for what choice, but I accidentally deleted the poll. I've re-created it now. Before I accidentally deleted it was like 35-3 or something.

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Calm down lol.

Had to trim down your quote because it wouldn't let me post otherwise but here

SVG's defensive principles don't rely on anything other than guys following orders and going where they're told to go

D'antoni's system requires players with a particular skill set

They have to be able to move the ball, make quick decisions, and stretch the floor from all over the court

Again you're just making stuff up to prop Vinny up and ignoring the obvious for the sake of your agenda

It's all good since your opinion doesn't seem to matter to the front office who are rumored to be looking at Van Gundy as their top candidate

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LEAVE but only for Sloan, Pj Carlisimo, Either Van Gundy, Nate McMillan, Larry Brown

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divinebeast wrote:

SVG's defensive principles don't rely on anything other than guys following orders and going where they're told to go

D'antoni's system requires players with a particular skill set

Ok coach, what are his "defensive principles". I ask cause you seem to know them. That was not rhetorical either. I hope you elaborate on this cause i am seriously intrigued by this revelation.

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Again you're just making stuff up to prop Vinny up and ignoring the obvious for the sake of your agenda

It's all good since your opinion doesn't seem to matter to the front office who are rumored to be looking at Van Gundy as their top candidate

What's made up? Specify what's made up so I can address it. Van Gundy has only been around HOF centers that have arguably been the most dominant in the last 20 years. Stan has only run one type of offense and that includes having shooters around a dominant center. That tells me he only knows one way to run a offense. Guess what? We don't have a center close to being as dominant as those two so doesn't it seem obvious one would question whether he knows how to run a team like ours?

Forget his "defensive philosophies" , I was always talking about offense, and so were you when you apologized for Antoni.

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make that three centers.

Alonzo Mourning was with the Heat also. Hmmmm...Wonder how Stan would do with DJ. lol

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Yeah guess what? every NBA offense needs shooters to be successful

It's called stretching the floor

The same principle applies wether you have Chris Paul going into the lane and finding the open man on the corner or Dwight Howard posting up and finding the open man on the corner

Also what Van Gundy would do with Dwight is have him set a pick on the perimeter and make him roll quickly to the basket to get good post presence

Only smart NBA coaches do that (Note Vinny isn't one of them) and all you need is an athletic big with good footspeed

Gee I wonder who that could be? (Not talking about DJ here wink)

As for his defensive principles I'm gonna need time to break it down into words and so because as I know there isn't a breakdown online anywhere

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divinebeast wrote:

Yeah guess what? every NBA offense needs shooters to be successful

It's called stretching the floor

The same principle applies wether you have Chris Paul going into the lane and finding the open man on the corner or Dwight Howard posting up and finding the open man on the corner

Thanks for the obvious, captain. All teams need shooters but not all teams and coaches depend on a center for his offense and defense to be effective. Just like you think Antoni needs specific players to succeed, I firmly believe Stan needs a dominant center to be effective. We've had a glimpse of Stan's offense and defense without Howard and boy, it doesn't look good. Agree? Probably not but that's the truth.

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Also what Van Gundy would do with Dwight is have him set a pick on the perimeter and make him roll quickly to the basket to get good post presence

Only smart NBA coaches do that (Note Vinny isn't one of them) and all you need is an athletic big with good footspeed

Gee I wonder who that could be? (Not talking about DJ here wink)

The reason why Stan used the high pick and roll was to get his center deep in the paint and use his strength to score. The reason that also worked was because he had a stretch 4 to keep the paint open. It's not rocket science. If you think that would work with any center on any team, you're wrong. That doesn't make you smart cause only a few teams can do that. lol

We don't have a stretch 4 to begin with. DJ nullifies that by clogging the paint cause he's no threat. And finally, BG is undersized and doesn't have the reach to accomplish something like that. Why do you think BG runs into the paint after a basket while the defense sets up? Cause he has room to take his man under the basket. In a set offense, with DJ, that's impossible.

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You mean when Dwight got injured and all Stan had was a roster of untalented players all built to maximize Dwight's talent?

and alright lets say you're correct in your assessment

The difference between Stan and Vinny is the principle of trying new sets, getting creative with your roster, and having your players move well off the ball (Stan Van Gundy's team feature plenty of off the ball movement)

Vinny's offense? in his own words "I run the Chris Paul system"

Which is great and all until you're in the playoffs and Chris Paul is dribbling until there's only ten seconds left on the clock against the best defense in the NBA

The creativity in the pick and roll would be great for this team and great for Blake's development

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divinebeast wrote:

You mean when Dwight got injured and all Stan had was a roster of untalented players all built to maximize Dwight's talent?

and alright lets say you're correct in your assessment

Your words:

SVG's defensive principles don't rely on anything other than guys following orders and going where they're told to go

So now you admit that Howard had untalented players to maximize Howard's talent? Isn't that what I've been arguing all this time with you? That Stan needs a center to be successful? So now the players are untalented once Howard is gone but when he's there, SVG's principles don't rely on anything other than guys following orders and going where they're told to go? Which is it?

I've been consistent but you keep going back and forth.

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The difference between Stan and Vinny is the principle of trying new sets, getting creative with your roster, and having your players move well off the ball (Stan Van Gundy's team feature plenty of off the ball movement)

high PnR and dumping the ball to Howard as 4 guys sit behind the arc is NOT being creative. That's been SVG's offense since he got to Orlando.

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Vinny's offense? in his own words "I run the Chris Paul system"

VDN was being facetious. He was paying CP3 a compliment.

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divinebeast wrote:
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The reason why Stan used the high pick and roll was to get his center deep in the paint and use his strength to score. The reason that also worked was because he had a stretch 4 to keep the paint open. It's not rocket science. If you think that would work with any center on any team, you're wrong. That doesn't make you smart cause only a few teams can do that. lol

We don't have a stretch 4 to begin with. DJ nullifies that by clogging the paint cause he's no threat. And finally, BG is undersized and doesn't have the reach to accomplish something like that. Why do you think BG runs into the paint after a basket while the defense sets up? Cause he has room to take his man under the basket. In a set offense, with DJ, that's impossible.

You mean when Dwight got injured and all Stan had was a roster of untalented players all built to maximize Dwight's talent?

Really? Those Orlando teams a few years back were STACKED. Calling them untalented is almost laughable.

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"Back in November, when Los Angeles was engulfed in System Overload the week Brown was dismissed and D'Antoni hired, Los Angeles Clippers coach Vinny Del Negro was asked which system he deployed.

"Chris Paul," Del Negro said.

Del Negro wasn't being flip or coy. The question was straightforward, and he offered the best approximation of his team's blueprint when it had the ball - the Chris Paul System.

"All those names and all that stuff," Del Negro said of the Princeton, the spread, seven seconds or less, etc. "You just put the ball in the best player's hands."

In other words

All those well researched complicated offenses that made legendary coaches like Jerry Sloan and Phil Jackson are for you journalists and snobby know it alls

We run the Chris Paul system here

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He wasn't being sarcastic in the slightest and I said the roster was built to maximize Dwight's talent

So what? Ideally we'd have a roster in LA to maximize Chris Paul's talents

Shooters on the wing and Blake popping out for an open jump shot

That's why the team hired Bob Thate the most respected shooting coach in the NBA

Hopefully they're going to trade Caron's expiring and Bledsoe for a wing who can shoot this off season and we can run an offense that looks closer to the unstoppable offense he ran in New Orleans

Orlando also had more cutting and off the ball movement than you give them credit for just watch tape from Van Gundy's tenure

He also wouldn't allow Chris to dribble the clock away against the most disciplined defense in the league and he wouldn't allow Chauncey Billups to play if he couldn't even contain his man Tony Allen who went off for double digit points multiple times in the playoffs when he's probably the most offensively challenged wing starting in the NBA

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Hey David. Nice job upgrading the poll. Now we can see who voted. It's too bad the results have been reset, though. We'll never find out who those two votes came from. lol

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He didn't get it done so hes got to goo...

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And consistently in the top 5 in salary. They were stacked, and they spent a lot of money to compete.

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