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Post Subject: Rumor: Bledsoe + Jordan for Eric Gordon + Robin Lopez Post ID: 382237by Trinidad » May 13, 2013 - 02:07 PM PST
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Heard a rumor that this was floating around the FO:

Clippers get: Eric Gordon & Robin Lopez

Hornets/Pelicans get: Deandre Jordan & Eric Bledsoe plus filler like Grant Hill

What do you guys think?



                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Lopez Post ID: 382238by worm » May 13, 2013 - 02:16 PM PST
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any link?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382239by ClippersSince97 » May 13, 2013 - 02:17 PM PST
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I like EJ as a 2nd/3rd option but he's too damn injury prone... I would not go through with this trade.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382240by clipperstown » May 13, 2013 - 02:19 PM PST
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EJ makes too much money compared to the amount of games he plays. no thanks

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382241by ClippersSince97 » May 13, 2013 - 02:27 PM PST
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Plus, he just went under the knife again a few days ago. Although not significant, I don't think he'll ever be right again.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382242by The_Blake_Show » May 13, 2013 - 02:28 PM PST
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No. Robin Lopez is not a solid center (Living in Brook Lopez shadow) and Eric Gordon (as much as I liked Gordon when he was a Clippers) this guy is too injury prone not to mention that Gordon makes too much.

The Clippers have a better option pursuing OJ Mayo for a lot less with a lot more productivity and is not injury prone.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382243by Jerediscool » May 13, 2013 - 02:28 PM PST
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link? Why would we do this? we didnt wanna pay ej max money and thats why we dealt him to begin with

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382244by slestack11 » May 13, 2013 - 02:29 PM PST
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We just dumped that injury prone cancer Eric Gordon. It would be a terrible idea to trade Bledsoe for him...especially if Gordon decides to sign elsewhere after next season.

                
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Post ID: 382246by realbull17 » May 13, 2013 - 02:31 PM PST
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i hope this is not true. that's a horrible trade proposal!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for EJ & Post ID: 382247by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:33 PM PST
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Wow you guys are crazy. I'd take this deal and RUN. Sure EJ and Lopez have injury issues but CP3+Gordon+Griffin is a MONSTER "Big 3" and Lopez is a well above average center and a huge upgrade over DJ. We are taking a so called bad contract in Gordon and pawning off DJ's. Gordon may have little attitude issues but he's a hardcore competitor and was heartbroken when we traded him. I'm sure with a fresh start in LA he would be happy.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Rumor: Bledsoe & Jordan for Post ID: 382248by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:34 PM PST
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I think you guys are OVER valuing Bledsoe. DJ is not going to be easy to move as it is and only maybe 5 teams in the entire NBA need a PG so Bledsoe's value while good, isn't incredible or anything.

                
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Post ID: 382249by clipperstown » May 13, 2013 - 02:35 PM PST
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dude, gordon wont even be there half the time. if i knew that he'd play in 70 out of 82 games, i'd take the deal RIGHT NOW. but the guy has never played anywhere close to a full season after his rookie season

                
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Post ID: 382250by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:39 PM PST
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50-60 games of Gordon>>>>>>>> 15 minutes a night of Vinny not playing Bledsoe enough. Plus Gordon's injury issues this year and last were overstated and I honestly think the Hornets were intentionally tanking at times. In other words.. Gordon was sitting out when he didn't need to be.

                
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Post ID: 382251by ClippersSince97 » May 13, 2013 - 02:40 PM PST
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Talent wise, I agree with what you're saying CF86 and I definitely agree that Bled shouldn't be overvalued. But durability wise, it's not a smart investment and I'd rather not take the risk. EJ's injury track record cannot be overlooked especially for us who have witnessed it firsthand.

                
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Post ID: 382253by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:42 PM PST
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I agree it's a risk but think of the potential pay off. Let's say EJ plays 70 games a year for the next few years? He's the PERFECT 3rd piece for this team. Great man defender, willing passer, EXCELLENT at getting to the free throw line, 3 point range. His only true weakness is health. One of the most complete guards in the game as we all know. It's worth a shot because I also think Lopez is a perfect center compliment. Can hit jumpers occasionally, great on the glass, huge and physical big who loves to bang bodies and hit people. Doesn't need shots to impact games.

Lopez for DJ is a win for us and Bledsoe for Gordon is probably a wash considering contract/injury woes etc. In the end we win the trade even if Gordon plays just 50-60 games a year from here on out.

                
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Post ID: 382255by ClipperB23 » May 13, 2013 - 02:48 PM PST
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any link to the rumor?

                
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Post ID: 382256by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:52 PM PST
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All I could find on Twitter was some Italian sports writer claiming this rumor who couldn't even spell Bledsoe correctly. I'm thinking it's nothing Embarassed

                
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Post ID: 382257by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:53 PM PST
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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post?id=7705

Ah.... I found a source! Okay can somebody with insider plz post this!?

                
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Post ID: 382259by realbull17 » May 13, 2013 - 02:54 PM PST
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EJ doesnt want to return to LA anyway. he trash us hard when we trade him to new orleans. he is still bitter.

                
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Post ID: 382260by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:55 PM PST
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I WANT a guy like that back. Means he was pissed as hell we traded him and loved playing for us. Remember a time when players would CELEBRATE getting traded away from the Clippers? I do.

                
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Post ID: 382261by ClippersSince97 » May 13, 2013 - 02:57 PM PST
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He's definitely the perfect complement to CP and BG hands down... I'm with you on that one. But 70 games? I think that's a little too optimistic. And who knows what kind of chronic knee problems he does or will have? Ultimately, the risks outweigh the potential BIG 3 combination considering what we know about EJ's injury history and at his price tag. Just my personal opinion.

                
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Post ID: 382262by clipper*joe » May 13, 2013 - 02:59 PM PST
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Insider is about ideas, insight, and "if I was a GM" scenarios. Rarely read about rumors.

                
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Post ID: 382263by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 02:59 PM PST
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http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/2013/ ... um=twitter

Podcast talks about it.

https://twitter.com/McNamara247

"Off air with Clippers writer, he said he has heard a lot of buzz from FO sources that a Bledsoe/Jordan for EG/Lopez deal could go down"

Follow this guy's Twitter. Editor of Hornets247.

                
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Post ID: 382264by david » May 13, 2013 - 03:00 PM PST
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Some downsides though... Biggest risk is how Eric Gordon is prone to injury. Also Robin Lopez is a free agent after next season, and likely we won't be able to match. I'd still do this deal, however. Defensively, Eric Gordon is at a similar level as Eric Bledsoe, and of course offensively EJ is better. And Robin Lopez, though not a great rebounder, is better than DeAndre Jordan overall. But again, the big risk is how many games can EJ play in a 82 game season.

BTW- I added a poll to the opening post.

                
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Post ID: 382265by Hooch20 » May 13, 2013 - 03:04 PM PST
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Clips, Pelicans considering blockbuster?

There is sure to be plenty of buzz in the weeks and months to come about the future of New Orleans shooting guard Eric Gordon and Los Angeles Clippers point guard Eric Bledsoe. Today, Michael McNamara of BourbonStreetShots.com tweets that the two teams could already be considering a deal that involves the both of them.

Here's more on that.

McNamara tweets: "Off air with Clippers writer, he said he has heard a lot of buzz from FO sources that a Bledsoe/(DeAndre) Jordan for EG/(Robin) Lopez deal could go down."

This is sure to get the attention of both fan bases. The Clips are already quite familiar with Gordon, being that the shooting guard started his career there before heading east in the Chris Paul deal. If the team resigns Paul, as expected, and brings in a talent like Gordon, suddenly the Clips potentially have a third top option to turn to along with Paul and Blake Griffin. And replacing Jordan with Lopez would give them a much better contract and arguably a better center. What they'd lose with Jordan, though, is an athletic 5 who could run the floor and block a lot of shots.

From the Pelicans' perspective, this would give them another defensive presence to pair alongside Anthony Davis on the frontline, along with a talented young point guard who could conceivably push Greivis Vasquez to the bench or to shooting guard, depending on the development of Austin Rivers in his second season. That may not sit very well with Vasquez, though, and it's arguable how much the team really needs to address the point guard spot after Vasquez's breakout season.

Again, this is just a rumor for now, but it's something to think about going forward in what could be a very interesting offseason for both teams.

                
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Post ID: 382267by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:06 PM PST
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Thanks Hooch!

                
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Post ID: 382269by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:09 PM PST
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I agree. We need to decide if it's worth the gamble. I personally say yes because when EJ DOES play he's still very productive and a fiery competitor. I think him and CP3 would mesh amazing on and off the court. Both laid back off the court but on the court fierce and moody.

                
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Post ID: 382270by CapsNClips » May 13, 2013 - 03:12 PM PST
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Wait, let me try and wrap my brain around this. We can get rid of DJ for a superior Center and we can actually get an All-star caliber starting SG for our backup PG that will leave anyways?

Hmmm this is a tough one....Lol no its not. Sign me up and let's also see if we can get that Barnes kid from them also

EJ's comin' home guys, Hell yes

                
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Post ID: 382271by ToadVine » May 13, 2013 - 03:14 PM PST
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They play different positions, but EGor is NOT a better shooter than Bled or pretty much anybody else in the NBA. He's BAD.

Don't want an undersized SG who shoots 40%

                
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Post ID: 382272by ClippersSince97 » May 13, 2013 - 03:15 PM PST
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You're joking right?

                
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Post ID: 382273by ClipperB23 » May 13, 2013 - 03:15 PM PST
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Clippersfan86 wrote:
realbull17 wrote:
EJ doesnt want to return to LA anyway. he trash us hard when we trade him to new orleans. he is still bitter.

I WANT a guy like that back. Means he was pissed as hell we traded him and loved playing for us. Remember a time when players would CELEBRATE getting traded away from the Clippers? I do.

Yup I agree 86, EJ was pissed because he LOVED LA. Just look at this pic of his press conference, looks like a mug shot to me!

                
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Post ID: 382274by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:16 PM PST
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I posted it on a general basketball forum and literally every non Hornets/Clippers fan is calling it a good deal for both teams, fair deal etc. That just tells me this is a real possibility because neither team is getting robbed.

                
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Post ID: 382275by Clipperfn4lf » May 13, 2013 - 03:18 PM PST
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It's comical to think Bledsoe has a better jump shot than EJ. Sure Bledsoe has a high FG% because he takes less volume of shots.

                
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Post ID: 382276by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:18 PM PST
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clipperBryan32 wrote:
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EJ doesnt want to return to LA anyway. he trash us hard when we trade him to new orleans. he is still bitter.

I WANT a guy like that back. Means he was pissed as hell we traded him and loved playing for us. Remember a time when players would CELEBRATE getting traded away from the Clippers? I do.

Yup I agree 86, EJ was pissed because he LOVED LA. Just look at this pic of his press conference, looks like a mug shot to me!

He's enraged man... seriously looks like he's gonna kill somebody.

                
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Post ID: 382277by marten81 » May 13, 2013 - 03:20 PM PST
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I hope so! hope the clippers can talk up something more too.. even a 2nd rounder would be good. If robin lopez leaves after a year, means we get a new center! i bet its an upgrade.

                
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Post ID: 382278by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:20 PM PST
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Clipperfn4lf wrote:
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They play different positions, but EGor is NOT a better shooter than Bled or pretty much anybody else in the NBA. He's BAD.

Don't want an undersized SG who shoots 40%

It's comical to think Bledsoe has a better jump shot than EJ. Sure Bledsoe has a high FG% because he takes less volume of shots.

Exactly. If you've been a fan for at least 4-5 years you'd laugh at yourself for suggesting Bledsoe>EJ as a shooter. Bledsoe's left open 80 percent of the time.. teams aggressively guard EJ because they know he can bury you quickly with his shot.

Eric Gordon's percentages were off this year but he's a very good shooter. No Steph Curry or anything but well above average in terms of capability/ability.

                
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Post ID: 382279by david » May 13, 2013 - 03:21 PM PST
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Yeah if EJ can even play like 70 games and not miss any playoff game, then it'll be worth it. Like you mentioned, EJ draws a ton of fouls going to the hoop- we don't exactly have anyone like that on the team right now. Blake used to draw a lot, but not nearly as much any more. And if EJ can get is 3 point stroke back to where it should be- at least 37%- it'd be something.

Just don't have him handle the ball too much down the stretch in close games, lol. We won't have that problem with CP on the team, however.

                
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Post ID: 382280by CP3Heliflopter » May 13, 2013 - 03:22 PM PST
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Good god. I don't want Eric Gordon. Overpaid, injury prone, undersized, ball dominant, no defense playing SG.... Not to mention he has a bad attitude....

Dude makes CP3 look like an iron man.

Robin Lopez is better than DJ but taking back Eric Gordon is not worth it....

                
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Post ID: 382281by CapsNClips » May 13, 2013 - 03:22 PM PST
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Robin Lopez is a Gangster, he's like a 7 foot tall energizer bunny and is extremely efficient at what he does without a single play needing to be called for him unlike DJ and RL shoots about 75% from the stripe.

                
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Post ID: 382282by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:23 PM PST
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Post ID: 382284by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:25 PM PST
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I'd rather Gordon handle the ball down the stretch of games than Jamal Crawford. You guys remember Gordon's last season here where he made a huge leap in his ball handling, clutch play? I watched him some this year and last year and his handles are getting better and better. I think he would be a great guy to give CP3 breaks with the ballhandling at times. He's also proven he can play the catch and shoot game so no reason to doubt that.

                
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Post ID: 382285by CapsNClips » May 13, 2013 - 03:25 PM PST
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What? Eric Gordon is one of the best defending SG's in the league. When he was on the Clips he could shut down players on any given night. He can actually be a huge weapon when we play teams with athletic guards like Westbrook, TP, and he even broke Currys ankles, Literally.

                
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Post ID: 382286by FightOnRon » May 13, 2013 - 03:30 PM PST
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I am over 60 years old and EJ is more injury prone then me,,,no thanks

                
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Post ID: 382288by FightOnRon » May 13, 2013 - 03:31 PM PST
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Do these look like:

a. Mug shots b. unhappy campers c. a and b

                
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Post ID: 382289by FightOnRon » May 13, 2013 - 03:32 PM PST
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CapsNClips wrote:
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Good god. I don't want Eric Gordon. Overpaid, injury prone, ball dominant, no defense playing SG....

What? Eric Gordon is one of the best defending SG's in the league. When he was on the Clips he could shut down players on any given night. He can actually be a huge weapon when we play teams with athletic guards like Westbrook, TP, and he even broke Currys ankles, Literally.

out of all the games he could have played since he was traded, how many did he really play in? 1/2,,1/3,,more,,less?

                
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Post ID: 382290by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:34 PM PST
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Ron there is a reason for that. Although they would never admit it.. it was clear New Orleans was shutting Gordon down often to tank for the draft. I mean 3+ months missed by ankle sprains? Comon. I agree he's injury prone but New Orleans exact situation was an anomaly.

                
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Post ID: 382291by CP3Heliflopter » May 13, 2013 - 03:34 PM PST
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CapsNClips wrote:
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Good god. I don't want Eric Gordon. Overpaid, injury prone, ball dominant, no defense playing SG....

What? Eric Gordon is one of the best defending SG's in the league. When he was on the Clips he could shut down players on any given night. He can actually be a huge weapon when we play teams with athletic guards like Westbrook, TP, and he even broke Currys ankles, Literally.

I have absolutely no clue where people get this from. He isn't a good defender and certainly not one of the best defenders in the league. In fact, he is quite bad on the defensive end. Maybe I exaggerated a bit. When he actually tries on defense(which usually doesn't) his defense is serviceable. Yea there really isn't any defensive metrics that suggests he is even a decent defender(on and off stats, defensive rating, etc).

I thought after all this time people would realize how grossly overrated this guy is. I was never high on him tbh. Way more downsides than positives. Grossly overrated scorer, injury prone and has more holes in his game than swiss cheese.

I know I am going to bashed for saying anymore so I will leave it at that.

                
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Post ID: 382293by Clippersfan86 » May 13, 2013 - 03:36 PM PST
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CP3Heliflopter wrote:
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Good god. I don't want Eric Gordon. Overpaid, injury prone, ball dominant, no defense playing SG....

What? Eric Gordon is one of the best defending SG's in the league. When he was on the Clips he could shut down players on any given night. He can actually be a huge weapon when we play teams with athletic guards like Westbrook, TP, and he even broke Currys ankles, Literally.

I have absolutely no clue where people get this from. He isn't a good defender and certainly not one of the best defenders in the league. In fact, he is quite bad on the defensive end. Maybe I exaggerated a bit. When he actually tries on defense(which usually doesn't) his defense is serviceable. Yea there really isn't any defensive metrics that suggests he is even a decent defender(on and off stats, defensive rating, etc).

I thought after all this time people would realize how grossly overrated this guy is. I was never high on him tbh. Way more downsides than positives. Grossly overrated scorer, injury prone and has more holes in his game than swiss cheese.

I know I am going to bashed for saying anymore so I will leave it at that.

Team USA players and coaches disagree with you. In fact they talked about him being THE defensive stopper on the team. That was with teammates like Iggy and Rondo on the team who are supposedly elite defenders. Bottom line is anybody who's watched Gordon extensively knows he's a very good man defender. He's not going to be on any all defensive teams or anything but he's a well above average defender and would be categorized as "good" defensively.

                
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Post ID: 382295by TheDude » May 13, 2013 - 03:42 PM PST
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I laughed. Nice. And unfortunately probably true.

                
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Post ID: 382296by toohipcliptoslip » May 13, 2013 - 03:49 PM PST
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I am over 60 years old and EJ is more injury prone then me,,,no thanks
I laughed. Nice. And unfortunately probably true.

I'm over 60 and less injury prone

                
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