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byron Scott

Alvin Gentry

larry drew hes supposed to be interested since his days with the hawks are done

Michael Malone

b. shaw

shaw is the only one so far

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There's a whole lot of celebrating going on considering we don't know who's going to be at the helm next year... don't forget, it has to be somebody CP3 approves of, who will willingly work for Donald knowing that if/when he gets canned he'll have to sue for owed monies, and is willing to take less money to work here than he could probably get from other teams.

I'll wait to hear who the replacement is and if CP3 re-signs before I start cracking the champagne. I hope Donald has something up his sleeve.

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Chauncey Billups as Coach!! lol

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After he gets some coaching experience, Billups may become a good coach.

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this! but with his name spelled right lol

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Would love to see what kind of defense the defenseless handicapped Cassel would implement. He'll make Vinny's schemes look like genius.

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Happy to see the Clipps make the Change, i'm on the Jerry Sloan wagon. Hopefully his last year with D Will does not scare him away from CP3. Not sure who else i really want to see coach. maybe Dunleavy (kidding)

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I just got back today from my 2 week vacation and what great news i hear! Great day clipper fans! Now hopefully we hire the right coach for our team! I like Sloan and SVG. The spurs assistant coach is intriguing, considering how good the spurs offensive and defensive systems are.

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On a side note, when I went to Disneyland, saw alot of people wearing clipper shirts/jerseys. They were all nice.

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Partyman

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in all seriousness, thx for the efforts, but this was necessary for this team to step up to the next level

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I actually forgot about Byron's back to back finals appearances with the Nets. So he's been 1 game from the WCF one year and back to back finals appearances. I'm okay with it.

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unpopular post of the day: im starting to not like CP3 and his "holier than thou" attitude.

No biggie, man. We know you're anti-star.

this.

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Excited about this opportunity. VDN was a decent coach, but not shrewd enough to get us deep into the playoffs. And while I enjoyed the team's fun-loving culture, we were emotionally immature. I'm hoping the new coach finds a way to hold everyone to high standards and get the best out of the team.

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Scott is sort of like VDN on steroids. Not very good at X and Os but a very good motivator and not too bad as a defensive coach either. Not to mention he has actually made deep runs in the playoffs(Finals) so he has the respect that VDN doesn't have.

Again I don't think he is ideal but I certainly wouldn't complain.

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If your name isnt Sloan or Van Gundy... Then I am skeptical... unless it is one of those assistant coaches.. Malone or that unspellable one... (I really cant say I know too much about them) but you guys seem to like them... Anyone else to me is ehhh but hey.. You never know right?

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CP3Heliflopter wrote:
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Ekker in this particular instance CP3 shouldn't be attacked. If he WAS indeed the driving force it was still a group decision and if anything we should be thanking his desire to win no matter WHAT the cost is, even pushing a mediocre coach out the door that the owner loves. He will force Sterling to stay active. I'm honestly warming up to Byron Scott. Sure offense wise and resume wise he's not any better than Vinny but defensively, attitude wise he's 10 times better. He's been known to make players giving halfassed effort run extra MILES in practice. He's known to get in players faces. My kind of guy.

Scott is sort of like VDN on steroids. Not very good at X and Os but a very good motivator and not too bad as a defensive coach either. Not to mention he has actually made deep runs in the playoffs(Finals) so he has the respect that VDN doesn't have.

Again I don't think he is ideal but I certainly wouldn't complain.

Everything you said about Scott can be said about Mike Brown. So why is Scott celebrated for failing to win a Chip with a Top 3 player and Brown is scorched for doing the exact same thing? Probably because the media said Brown sucks and will always suck and Scott is good and will always be good no matter what even if he posts the 2nd worst record in the league, thank you media for shaping my mind even though you don't make sense at all.

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A change in coaching staff was much needed! Good work Donald Sterling and best of luck to you Vinny!

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Yes, I liked vinny as a person. Great guy. Just wasn't the right fit for us. Good luck vinny.

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lobcityhawaii wrote:
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A change in coaching staff was much needed! Good work Donald Sterling and best of luck to you Vinny!

Yes, I liked vinny as a person. Great guy. Just wasn't the right fit for us. Good luck vinny.

Yup, he is a good guy I wish him nothing but the best, he's a hard worker and he'll find another job somewhere around the league coach or not.

Can't wait to see who our next coach will be!

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Welcome back LCH! You live in Hawaii and you need a vacation??? Wink

I echo the same sentiments- SVG, Sloan and Budenholzer all sound like good choices. Just have to go through the process and see who is the best for the Clippers future success.

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LOL TJ Simers and his article

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david wrote:
lobcityhawaii wrote:
I just got back today from my 2 week vacation and what great news i hear! Great day clipper fans! Now hopefully we hire the right coach for our team! I like Sloan and SVG. The spurs assistant coach is intriguing, considering how good the spurs offensive and defensive systems are.

Welcome back LCH! You live in Hawaii and you need a vacation??? Wink

I echo the same sentiments- SVG, Sloan and Budenholzer all sound like good choices. Just have to go through the process and see who is the best for the Clippers future success.

Yes, I live in Hawaii but my favorite spot for a vacation is LA. Love it there. So much fun stuff to do there. Wish we were still playing but it was a great trip. Was surprised how many clipper fans were at Disneyland and at lax. They were all nice.

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

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I assume a lot of those votes came from Laker fans who wanted to troll the poll.

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Chauncey Billups as Coach!! lol

After he gets some coaching experience, Billups may become a good coach.

I thought I read Billups saying he wasn't interested in coaching sometime earlier.

I just hope for a defensive coach. I care little about the name, doesn't need to be some big name coach, just someone who can coach defense and/or bring assistants that can do so.

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cleepers wrote:
ClippersSince97 wrote:
LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

Honestly I strongly doubt those are predominantly Clippers fans polling. I'm almost 100 percent sure it's Lakers fans. I have well over 50 Clippers buddies on FB and only 2 support Vinny. Then of course whenever we poll here the forum is DOMINANTLY anti Vinny polling wise. Interesting to read nonetheless.

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He should go to the college ranks.Hhe has the perfect personality to recruit for a big time program. His X's and O's can be masked at that level.

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Stan said he wouldn't be coaching this season, right? I'd like JVG, I've always liked the comments he's made about the team as an color commentator, he's generally more accurate in his assessments than the "Clippers always run", "Blake needs to just bulldoze everyone because he's arhletic" kind of commentators.

Budenholzer seems like a good choice, or JVG with a more offensive assistant. Not sure about guys like Scott, Gentry, Drew, or Shaw. Malone also seems like a good option as he can also coach defense.

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Malone or Budenholzer please.

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cleepers wrote:
ClippersSince97 wrote:
LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

The problem is within the players not the coach.

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Kind of sad.... but for the improvement of the team had to be done. Though he helped the Clippers to their best record in franchise history and back-to-back Western Conference playoff appearances, those weren't enough for Vinny Del Negro to keep his job as coach of the team. Del Negro said that being let go Tuesday was "hard to take," but that he understood how the business of professional basketball works. He said he was happy to help change the Clippers' culture. He also wanted to thank Clippers owner Donald Sterling, President Andy Roeser, Vice President of Basketball Operations Gary Sacks and....

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^vinnys a great guy. I only wish the best for him. We should thank him for all he's done. He's improved us and he was a hard worker. I agree, he just wasn't the right fit for us to lead us to the next level. Good luck vinny!

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worm wrote:
cleepers wrote:
ClippersSince97 wrote:
LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

The problem is within the players not the coach.

The problem is the coach and the players. Coach was easier to get rid of.

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Sterling really did it. Now time to find a real coach. SVG, Shaw, or Mike Malone all work for me.

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If Chris Paul really had some say in this firing. I respect him all the more. After all, Vinny gave Paul SO MUCH responsibility in the offense. He practically admitted the offense consisted of giving the ball to CP3. So it's not as if Paul would have complained about playing time or lack of respect from Vinny toward him.

So if Paul had a problem with Vinny it would be in defense of perhaps other players. Or, more likely, issues with Vinny's actual coaching abilities. His lack of X's and O's or possibly his inability to motivate the players. Is it possible Paul was at times frustrated with the lack of set plays? I think so. I actually remember a moment in a recent game down the stretch in which Paul was visibliy agitated and emploring Vinny to draw up a play. I kid you not. That's exactly what I saw. Even CP3 needs help sometimes when it comes to executing plays.

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INSIDER TAKE: It's been rumored for a while, and now it's official: Vinny Del Negro is out as the Los Angeles Clippers' head coach. Here's a look at some of the coaches the Clips will likely consider to take over. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, who first broke the news this afternoon, reports that league sources indicate that free agent-to-be Chris Paul wanted a different coach. There's a strong chance that played a big role in this decision, considering how much the Clippers need to lock up Paul in order to remain a contender for the foreseeable future. Wojnarowski mentions Memphis coach Lionel....

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^i wouldn't mind Malone either.

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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.

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If we get a Defensive Coach you can garuntee either CP or BG will get MVP because they will be the focal point of whatever offense we have, kinda like when DRose won MVP he was taking all of the Bulls shots basically.

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That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.

That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

With all due respect I'm sure Blake knew what he was talking about.

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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.

That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

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"It depends on our defensive strategy and our defensive principles for that game," Griffin said. "We switch them every single game. I don't see that, no, but I'm biased."

I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

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I heard what I could from the video and that's what i came away with. I also read an article talking about how and who was responsible for the scouting reports. With all due respect, I know what I am talking about based on what BG was talking about and what the article was talking about.

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"It depends on our defensive strategy and our defensive principles for that game," Griffin said. "We switch them every single game. I don't see that, no, but I'm biased."

I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

"defensive strategy and our defensive principles"

Sounds like defensive game planning based on who we're playing.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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With all due respect I'm sure Blake knew what he was talking about.

I heard what I could from the video and that's what i came away with. I also read an article talking about how and who was responsible for the scouting reports. With all due respect, I know what I am talking about based on what BG was talking about and what the article was talking about.

With all due respect, he has more inside information than you or I. But I guess you still must know best. roll

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Shocked that VDN was most popular trend on twitter yet if you turned on local sports radio it was 30 seconds on the actual news story of Vinny being released from the Clips and 30 minutes of speculation on Dwight Howard! In case you want to hear sports talk about Vinny and what's next/who's next for the Clips... http://t.co/aFLaZIU6ii

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clipper*joe wrote:
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"It depends on our defensive strategy and our defensive principles for that game," Griffin said. "We switch them every single game. I don't see that, no, but I'm biased."

I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

"defensive strategy and our defensive principles"

Sounds like defensive game planning based on who we're playing.

There is a difference between making adjustments and flat out trying to change our defensive system game from game. I am not sure which BG was referring too. Our defense down the stretch was atrocious though so so much for those adjustments. They didn't seem to work at all.

Most elite defensive teams have a consistent identity on defense. There are some adjustments sure but for the most part the gameplan is pretty similar. There is such a thing as over-adjusting and we never really found an identity on defense. At one point it was forcing turnovers but it didn't work out very well at all especially in the playoffs.

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With all due respect, read his own freaking words (right above this post) from the interview and you'll realize how foolish you sound.

I know what was said. This conversation is based on what was said. The quote is posted for your very eyes to see what was said.

So tell me, where in there does it say, "changing defensive systems from game to game"?

No need for insider information, this is based on what he literally said. 3 people were in charge of orchestrating defensive game planning. they planned 3 games ahead of schedule. So you mean to tell me that we changed defensive systems from game to game? How many actual defensive systems have been created in basketball to cater to a full 82 game season for this to possible? Think about it...Think about it real hard before you respond.

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We finished top 10 in defense. we fell short not because we changed systems. we fell short cause our bigs played like mental midgets. We used BG a lot last season playing gasol and we won. We did the same thing this time and we lost. CP3 became more engaged offensively and didn't assist as much as he averaged, and we lost. last season CP3 played horrible against the Grizz and we won. Bledsoe played great D last playoffs, and this time, he looked disengaged and we lost. The effort on defense as whole killed us and you could see that as plain as day. They were all mental midgets.

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