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Post ID: 383792by Diamond909 » May 21, 2013 - 06:03 PM PST
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byron Scott Alvin Gentry larry drew hes supposed to be interested since his days with the hawks are done Michael Malone b. shaw

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Post ID: 383793by cleepers » May 21, 2013 - 06:04 PM PST
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There's a whole lot of celebrating going on considering we don't know who's going to be at the helm next year... don't forget, it has to be somebody CP3 approves of, who will willingly work for Donald knowing that if/when he gets canned he'll have to sue for owed monies, and is willing to take less money to work here than he could probably get from other teams.

I'll wait to hear who the replacement is and if CP3 re-signs before I start cracking the champagne. I hope Donald has something up his sleeve.

                
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Post ID: 383795by phaded21 » May 21, 2013 - 06:07 PM PST
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Chauncey Billups as Coach!! lol

                
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Post ID: 383796by ClipperDB » May 21, 2013 - 06:14 PM PST
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After he gets some coaching experience, Billups may become a good coach.

                
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Post ID: 383797by clipperAndrew » May 21, 2013 - 06:15 PM PST
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this! but with his name spelled right lol

                
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Post ID: 383801by tense2 » May 21, 2013 - 06:23 PM PST
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Would love to see what kind of defense the defenseless handicapped Cassel would implement. He'll make Vinny's schemes look like genius.

                
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Post ID: 383803by GoClippersGo829 » May 21, 2013 - 06:29 PM PST
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Happy to see the Clipps make the Change, i'm on the Jerry Sloan wagon. Hopefully his last year with D Will does not scare him away from CP3. Not sure who else i really want to see coach. maybe Dunleavy (kidding)

                
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Post ID: 383804by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 06:29 PM PST
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I just got back today from my 2 week vacation and what great news i hear! Great day clipper fans! Now hopefully we hire the right coach for our team! I like Sloan and SVG. The spurs assistant coach is intriguing, considering how good the spurs offensive and defensive systems are.

                
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Post ID: 383805by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 06:31 PM PST
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On a side note, when I went to Disneyland, saw alot of people wearing clipper shirts/jerseys. They were all nice.

                
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Post ID: 383806by kjavis » May 21, 2013 - 06:33 PM PST
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Partyman

                
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Post ID: 383811by kjavis » May 21, 2013 - 06:37 PM PST
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in all seriousness, thx for the efforts, but this was necessary for this team to step up to the next level

                
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Post ID: 383814by Clippersfan86 » May 21, 2013 - 06:40 PM PST
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I actually forgot about Byron's back to back finals appearances with the Nets. So he's been 1 game from the WCF one year and back to back finals appearances. I'm okay with it.

                
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Post ID: 383816by ekker3 » May 21, 2013 - 06:41 PM PST
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unpopular post of the day: im starting to not like CP3 and his "holier than thou" attitude.

No biggie, man. We know you're anti-star.

this.

                
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Post ID: 383824by ohMEohMy! » May 21, 2013 - 06:58 PM PST
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Excited about this opportunity. VDN was a decent coach, but not shrewd enough to get us deep into the playoffs. And while I enjoyed the team's fun-loving culture, we were emotionally immature. I'm hoping the new coach finds a way to hold everyone to high standards and get the best out of the team.

                
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Post ID: 383825by CP3Heliflopter » May 21, 2013 - 07:01 PM PST
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Scott is sort of like VDN on steroids. Not very good at X and Os but a very good motivator and not too bad as a defensive coach either. Not to mention he has actually made deep runs in the playoffs(Finals) so he has the respect that VDN doesn't have.

Again I don't think he is ideal but I certainly wouldn't complain.

                
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Post ID: 383827by Clippers_FTW » May 21, 2013 - 07:06 PM PST
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If your name isnt Sloan or Van Gundy... Then I am skeptical... unless it is one of those assistant coaches.. Malone or that unspellable one... (I really cant say I know too much about them) but you guys seem to like them... Anyone else to me is ehhh but hey.. You never know right?

                
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Post ID: 383830by CapsNClips » May 21, 2013 - 07:16 PM PST
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CP3Heliflopter wrote:
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Ekker in this particular instance CP3 shouldn't be attacked. If he WAS indeed the driving force it was still a group decision and if anything we should be thanking his desire to win no matter WHAT the cost is, even pushing a mediocre coach out the door that the owner loves. He will force Sterling to stay active. I'm honestly warming up to Byron Scott. Sure offense wise and resume wise he's not any better than Vinny but defensively, attitude wise he's 10 times better. He's been known to make players giving halfassed effort run extra MILES in practice. He's known to get in players faces. My kind of guy.
Scott is sort of like VDN on steroids. Not very good at X and Os but a very good motivator and not too bad as a defensive coach either. Not to mention he has actually made deep runs in the playoffs(Finals) so he has the respect that VDN doesn't have.

Again I don't think he is ideal but I certainly wouldn't complain.

Everything you said about Scott can be said about Mike Brown. So why is Scott celebrated for failing to win a Chip with a Top 3 player and Brown is scorched for doing the exact same thing? Probably because the media said Brown sucks and will always suck and Scott is good and will always be good no matter what even if he posts the 2nd worst record in the league, thank you media for shaping my mind even though you don't make sense at all.

                
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Post ID: 383833by ClipperB23 » May 21, 2013 - 07:21 PM PST
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A change in coaching staff was much needed! Good work Donald Sterling and best of luck to you Vinny!

                
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Post ID: 383834by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 07:23 PM PST
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Yes, I liked vinny as a person. Great guy. Just wasn't the right fit for us. Good luck vinny.

                
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Post ID: 383835by ClipperB23 » May 21, 2013 - 07:28 PM PST
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lobcityhawaii wrote:
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A change in coaching staff was much needed! Good work Donald Sterling and best of luck to you Vinny!

Yes, I liked vinny as a person. Great guy. Just wasn't the right fit for us. Good luck vinny.

Yup, he is a good guy I wish him nothing but the best, he's a hard worker and he'll find another job somewhere around the league coach or not.

Can't wait to see who our next coach will be!

                
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Welcome back LCH! You live in Hawaii and you need a vacation??? Wink

I echo the same sentiments- SVG, Sloan and Budenholzer all sound like good choices. Just have to go through the process and see who is the best for the Clippers future success.

                
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Post ID: 383839by ClippersSince97 » May 21, 2013 - 07:38 PM PST
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LOL TJ Simers and his article

                
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Post ID: 383842by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 07:41 PM PST
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david wrote:
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I just got back today from my 2 week vacation and what great news i hear! Great day clipper fans! Now hopefully we hire the right coach for our team! I like Sloan and SVG. The spurs assistant coach is intriguing, considering how good the spurs offensive and defensive systems are.

Welcome back LCH! You live in Hawaii and you need a vacation??? Wink

I echo the same sentiments- SVG, Sloan and Budenholzer all sound like good choices. Just have to go through the process and see who is the best for the Clippers future success.

Yes, I live in Hawaii but my favorite spot for a vacation is LA. Love it there. So much fun stuff to do there. Wish we were still playing but it was a great trip. Was surprised how many clipper fans were at Disneyland and at lax. They were all nice.

                
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Post ID: 383843by cleepers » May 21, 2013 - 07:45 PM PST
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

                
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Post ID: 383846by Grillinnap » May 21, 2013 - 08:02 PM PST
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I assume a lot of those votes came from Laker fans who wanted to troll the poll.

                
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Post ID: 383854by Agent0 » May 21, 2013 - 08:09 PM PST
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ClipperDB wrote:
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After he gets some coaching experience, Billups may become a good coach.
I thought I read Billups saying he wasn't interested in coaching sometime earlier.

I just hope for a defensive coach. I care little about the name, doesn't need to be some big name coach, just someone who can coach defense and/or bring assistants that can do so.

                
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Post ID: 383858by Clippersfan86 » May 21, 2013 - 08:20 PM PST
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cleepers wrote:
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LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

Honestly I strongly doubt those are predominantly Clippers fans polling. I'm almost 100 percent sure it's Lakers fans. I have well over 50 Clippers buddies on FB and only 2 support Vinny. Then of course whenever we poll here the forum is DOMINANTLY anti Vinny polling wise. Interesting to read nonetheless.

                
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Post ID: 383859by Heediot » May 21, 2013 - 08:23 PM PST
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He should go to the college ranks.Hhe has the perfect personality to recruit for a big time program. His X's and O's can be masked at that level.

                
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Post ID: 383860by Agent0 » May 21, 2013 - 08:27 PM PST
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Stan said he wouldn't be coaching this season, right? I'd like JVG, I've always liked the comments he's made about the team as an color commentator, he's generally more accurate in his assessments than the "Clippers always run", "Blake needs to just bulldoze everyone because he's arhletic" kind of commentators.

Budenholzer seems like a good choice, or JVG with a more offensive assistant. Not sure about guys like Scott, Gentry, Drew, or Shaw. Malone also seems like a good option as he can also coach defense.

                
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Post ID: 383873by mj_shoefanatic » May 21, 2013 - 08:43 PM PST
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Malone or Budenholzer please.

                
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cleepers wrote:
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LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

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There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

The problem is within the players not the coach.

                
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Post ID: 383885by Clippersfan86 » May 21, 2013 - 09:09 PM PST
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Kind of sad.... but for the improvement of the team had to be done.

Though he helped the Clippers to their best record in franchise history and back-to-back Western Conference playoff appearances, those weren't enough for Vinny Del Negro to keep his job as coach of the team.

Del Negro said that being let go Tuesday was "hard to take," but that he understood how the business of professional basketball works.

He said he was happy to help change the Clippers' culture.

He also wanted to thank Clippers owner Donald Sterling, President Andy Roeser, Vice President of Basketball Operations Gary Sacks and director of basketball administration Eric Miller.

"You try not to ever be surprised, but it is a business," Del Negro said in a phone interview from his home in Phoenix. "But I want to thank the fans, the organization and Mr. and Mrs. Sterling for giving me this opportunity.... I want to thank the players and my entire staff for their effort and support." Del Negro helped the Clippers to several historic marks during the 2012-13 season.

The Clippers won their first first Pacific Division championship and had a franchise-best 56-26 record.

They had a franchise-best 17-game winning streak, 16-0 during the month of December.

Over three years as coach of the Clippers, Del Negro had a 128-102 record.

"I'm proud of what we've done there, things that had never been done there before," Del Negro said. "But it's hard to take. I do think the organization is in a much better place. This is disappointing, but I also feel very fortunate. You move forward from here."

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Post ID: 383890by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 09:16 PM PST
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^vinnys a great guy. I only wish the best for him. We should thank him for all he's done. He's improved us and he was a hard worker. I agree, he just wasn't the right fit for us to lead us to the next level. Good luck vinny!

                
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Post ID: 383904by ClippersSince97 » May 21, 2013 - 09:35 PM PST
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worm wrote:
cleepers wrote:
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LOL TJ Simers and his article

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sim ... 582.column

Pretty interesting stuff!

There's a poll, too...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... 5929.story

The problem is within the players not the coach.

The problem is the coach and the players. Coach was easier to get rid of.

                
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Post ID: 383920by ClipperDodger1214 » May 21, 2013 - 10:00 PM PST
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Sterling really did it. Now time to find a real coach. SVG, Shaw, or Mike Malone all work for me.

                
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Post ID: 383928by Voyeur » May 21, 2013 - 10:12 PM PST
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If Chris Paul really had some say in this firing. I respect him all the more. After all, Vinny gave Paul SO MUCH responsibility in the offense. He practically admitted the offense consisted of giving the ball to CP3. So it's not as if Paul would have complained about playing time or lack of respect from Vinny toward him.

So if Paul had a problem with Vinny it would be in defense of perhaps other players. Or, more likely, issues with Vinny's actual coaching abilities. His lack of X's and O's or possibly his inability to motivate the players. Is it possible Paul was at times frustrated with the lack of set plays? I think so. I actually remember a moment in a recent game down the stretch in which Paul was visibliy agitated and emploring Vinny to draw up a play. I kid you not. That's exactly what I saw. Even CP3 needs help sometimes when it comes to executing plays.

                
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Post ID: 383939by FightOnRon » May 21, 2013 - 10:36 PM PST
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INSIDER TAKE: It's been rumored for a while, and now it's official: Vinny Del Negro is out as the Los Angeles Clippers' head coach. Here's a look at some of the coaches the Clips will likely consider to take over.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, who first broke the news this afternoon, reports that league sources indicate that free agent-to-be Chris Paul wanted a different coach. There's a strong chance that played a big role in this decision, considering how much the Clippers need to lock up Paul in order to remain a contender for the foreseeable future.

Wojnarowski mentions Memphis coach Lionel Hollins, former Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy and Golden State assistant Mike Malone as three possibilities for the Clippers' opening, however separate reports on Tuesday indicate that Memphis intends to retain Hollins and Van Gundy plans to sit out next season.

Partly for these reasons, we wouldn't be surprised if Malone emerges as the leading candidate; he served as Monty Williams' lead assistant in Paul's final season in New Orleans, is also a candidate for the Philadelphia job, and his reputation as a defensive guru only became greater after the way the Warriors turned things around on that side of the ball this season.

Earlier this month, Mark Heisler of HoopsHype.com mentioned Malone as one of "the insiders' frontrunners for the job" along with Alvin Gentry and Byron Scott. What do all three have in common? A solid bond with Paul, and that's sure to help each of their chances.

                
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Post ID: 383941by lobcityhawaii » May 21, 2013 - 10:38 PM PST
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^i wouldn't mind Malone either.

                
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Post ID: 383942by CP3Heliflopter » May 21, 2013 - 10:39 PM PST
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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.

                
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Post ID: 383946by CapsNClips » May 21, 2013 - 10:44 PM PST
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If we get a Defensive Coach you can garuntee either CP or BG will get MVP because they will be the focal point of whatever offense we have, kinda like when DRose won MVP he was taking all of the Bulls shots basically.

                
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Post ID: 383952by clipper*joe » May 21, 2013 - 10:51 PM PST
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That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

                
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Post ID: 383955by Voyeur » May 21, 2013 - 10:53 PM PST
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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.
That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

With all due respect I'm sure Blake knew what he was talking about.

                
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Post ID: 383957by CP3Heliflopter » May 21, 2013 - 10:58 PM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
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Offense wasn't the only problem. We literally changed our defensive system game from game. I remember BG being frustrated by it at one point. Its fine to adjust but to change your defense game from game is just stupid. I have no clue what VDN was trying to do. We had no defensive identity.
That's what pissed me off about BG. And it wasn't changing "defenses", it was defensive planning as in adjusting to scouting reports. Every team does that. maybe the fact that we got a defensive assistant coach that helped scout games in advance was too much for BG to adjust.

So no, we didn't LITERALLY adjust defensive systems game to game.

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I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

                
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Post ID: 383958by clipper*joe » May 21, 2013 - 10:59 PM PST
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I heard what I could from the video and that's what i came away with. I also read an article talking about how and who was responsible for the scouting reports. With all due respect, I know what I am talking about based on what BG was talking about and what the article was talking about.

                
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Post ID: 383960by clipper*joe » May 21, 2013 - 11:01 PM PST
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I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

"defensive strategy and our defensive principles"

Sounds like defensive game planning based on who we're playing.

                
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clipper*joe wrote:
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With all due respect I'm sure Blake knew what he was talking about.

I heard what I could from the video and that's what i came away with. I also read an article talking about how and who was responsible for the scouting reports. With all due respect, I know what I am talking about based on what BG was talking about and what the article was talking about.

With all due respect, he has more inside information than you or I. But I guess you still must know best. roll

                
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Post ID: 383963by chriswylde » May 21, 2013 - 11:14 PM PST
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Shocked that VDN was most popular trend on twitter yet if you turned on local sports radio it was 30 seconds on the actual news story of Vinny being released from the Clips and 30 minutes of speculation on Dwight Howard! In case you want to hear sports talk about Vinny and what's next/who's next for the Clips... http://t.co/aFLaZIU6ii

                
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Post ID: 383964by CP3Heliflopter » May 21, 2013 - 11:15 PM PST
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"It depends on our defensive strategy and our defensive principles for that game," Griffin said. "We switch them every single game. I don't see that, no, but I'm biased."

I don't know if its true or not but that is precisely what BG said. Regardless our defensive system wasn't exactly good. We were way too reliant on forcing turnovers and didn't contest shots well at all. When we didn't force turnovers like in the Memphis series our defense was utter crap. Not to mention our 3 point defense was putrid. I would say most of it has to do with our players(too many poor defenders) but having a better defensive coach or an assistant coach that specialized on defense would have helped.

"defensive strategy and our defensive principles"

Sounds like defensive game planning based on who we're playing.

There is a difference between making adjustments and flat out trying to change our defensive system game from game. I am not sure which BG was referring too. Our defense down the stretch was atrocious though so so much for those adjustments. They didn't seem to work at all.

Most elite defensive teams have a consistent identity on defense. There are some adjustments sure but for the most part the gameplan is pretty similar. There is such a thing as over-adjusting and we never really found an identity on defense. At one point it was forcing turnovers but it didn't work out very well at all especially in the playoffs.

                
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Post ID: 383967by clipper*joe » May 21, 2013 - 11:23 PM PST
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With all due respect, read his own freaking words (right above this post) from the interview and you'll realize how foolish you sound. I know what was said. This conversation is based on what was said. The quote is posted for your very eyes to see what was said. So tell me, where in there does it say, "changing defensive systems from game to game"? No need for insider information, this is based on what he literally said. 3 people were in charge of orchestrating defensive game planning. they planned 3 games ahead of schedule. So you mean to tell me that we changed defensive systems from game to game? How many actual defensive systems have been created in basketball to cater to a full 82 game season for this to possible? Think about it...Think about it real hard before you respond. lol

                
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Post ID: 383971by clipper*joe » May 21, 2013 - 11:30 PM PST
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We finished top 10 in defense. we fell short not because we changed systems. we fell short cause our bigs played like mental midgets. We used BG a lot last season playing gasol and we won. We did the same thing this time and we lost. CP3 became more engaged offensively and didn't assist as much as he averaged, and we lost. last season CP3 played horrible against the Grizz and we won. Bledsoe played great D last playoffs, and this time, he looked disengaged and we lost. The effort on defense as whole killed us and you could see that as plain as day. They were all mental midgets.

                
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