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Latest out of Boston is that Paul Pierce WILL indeed be bought out in July. Word is he doesn't care about money right now BUT wants to go to a contender and guess which city he's from and is his favorite? That's right, LA. I'm predicting we offer him part of our MLE and sign Paul Pierce. Now before anybody gets all up in arms over his age... he averaged 19/6/5/1 last year on 38 percent shooting from deep. He INSTANTLY makes us true title contenders no doubt.

Draft a SG like Crabbe, trade Bledsoe+DJ and we are in AMAZING shape going forward for the next 2-3 years at least.

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Ring baby.

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There's also a theory out there that wherever Pierce goes, Garnett may follow.

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Source?

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i think he'll want the full MLE, which means no matt barnes

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why do people keep saying affalo??

last I knew Affalo came off the trade market when orlando traded reddick to the bucks... now they need affalo, why would they trade him??

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Source for what? The only thing reported is that he's getting bought out and wants to join a contender. The rest is speculation and hope on my part. It's logical though considering we are his hometown team and a young contender on the rise.

Clipperstown if you're replacing Barnes with Pierce it's a good thing. The guy put up 19/6/5/1 on better efficiency than Barnes last year. He's a huge upgrade even to Barnes. Plus he's still clutch.

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Was just an example. Either way we should trade DJ+Bledsoe for a better center+another wing. Something like Pekovic+Budinger works for me too.

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Source for what? The only thing reported is that he's getting bought out and wants to join a contender. The rest is speculation and hope on my part. It's logical though considering we are his hometown team and a young contender on the rise.

Clipperstown if you're replacing Barnes with Pierce it's a good thing. The guy put up 19/6/5/1 on better efficiency than Barnes last year. He's a huge upgrade even to Barnes. Plus he's still clutch.

What do you mean source for what? Where did you hear or read that he's getting bought out?

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They're a rebuilding team, and while Afflalo is a good player, he is taking away minutes from the younger guys with more potential.

Which is also why for the millionth time, Orlando isn't trading Vucevic for Deandre and Bledsoe.

Edit: Paul Pierce would be a great add for the MLE as long as we draft a young SF to back him up as well. He's never really relied on athletic ability to excel.

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ClippersSince97 wrote:
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Source for what? The only thing reported is that he's getting bought out and wants to join a contender. The rest is speculation and hope on my part. It's logical though considering we are his hometown team and a young contender on the rise.

Clipperstown if you're replacing Barnes with Pierce it's a good thing. The guy put up 19/6/5/1 on better efficiency than Barnes last year. He's a huge upgrade even to Barnes. Plus he's still clutch.

What do you mean source for what? Where did you hear or read that he's getting bought out?

Well today's was from a Cleveland paper but it's been well speculated and accepted since the season ended. Boston can cut him now and save 10 million towards cap next year since he's only guaranteed 5 mill but makes 15. In my OP I combined rumors kind of because last week I read the one about him wanting to be on a contender, not chase money (obvious at 35 years old though).

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"Sources indicate Celtics director of basketball operations Danny Ainge will likely buy out forward Paul Pierce's $15 million contract for next year ($5 million is guaranteed). If that happens, Grant should be first in line to try to acquire Pierce's services. However, before anyone gets too giddy, Pierce will likely want to go to a serious contender."

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So if CP3 stays,the Gordan trade happens and we are able to get Pierce then our roster would look like this

CP3

EJ,Crawford

Pierce,Butler

Blake

Lopez

That is a pretty impressive line up for sure.I would keep Wille,sign/draft some solid back up bigs and a back up PG and we would easily be serious contenders for the title under the right coach.Not likely that all of this happens but this is going to be a very interesting off season.

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What Gordon trade? And as much as this is good news, how are we going to have the cap space to bring in Paul Pierce and Garnett? We'll more than likely have to send Butler, DJ and probably Bledsoe to the Celtics for Garnett, and probably a garbage player.

Garnett and Pierce are on the verge of retirement. We'd be mortgaging the farm for a 1 to 2 year window to win a title. What happens if Garnett retires after 1 year, whose our replacement at Center?

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The Celtics are going to buy out Pierce which means he will be a FA.Because of his age and him wanting to be on a contending team he will likely take the MLE.I agree with you I don't think we should trade for Garnett.The EJ trade that has been rumored would send DJ and Bledsoe to NOLA for EJ and Lopez.Since we have our MLE we can sign Pierce and do the trade.I don't know if we will be over the cap at that point but I think DTS will be willing to pay tax since we will only be first time offenders and we could possibly win a championship.

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Good god, I love Gordon, I do. I think we really got a gem in the draft. My only beef, and it's a big one is the fact that the guy cannot remain healthy at all. He's got an attitude problem which I think can be changed, this really popped up when the trade happened and he wasn't able to go sign with Phoenix. But that injury history has me completely worried.

That would be one heck of a team though if we could stay healthy. CP3, Gordon, Pierce, Blake and Lopez at C to board and block shots. Crawford off the bench with Odom probably, Billups and maybe Hill if he hasn't decided to retire.

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^ just draft crabbe and we are good to go. im sure some vets would come to the clips for less money if the team was assembled like you mentioned.

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Paul pierce would be a huge upgrade at the 3! He could probably only help us for the next 2 years, but if cp3 resigns, pierce makes us a championship contender! We still should try resign Barnes though! Hope we get him!

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That would be great if both Pierce and KG come over. Looks like it will either be Pierce or Barnes though.

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Pierce is only a year older than Barnes and twice as good. No brainer decision.

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Paul Pierce has always been a good defender, til NOW. Pierce these days guards like he has 2 pulled hamstrings, and we're 11 months to a year away from him being even more washed up. People LOVE names! Washed up Names>Functional talent?

Big Shot/Caron/Hill/L.O./Rony........Jamal and Barnes very soon, and now Pierce?

This team looks like a big A$$ coaching staff!!

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I can give Pierce a pass on D if he puts up 19/6/5. If you can't you're nitpicking. HUGE upgrade to any team even now.

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If Pierce leaves why would KG and Doc stay with the C's? I smell a blockbuster trade in the works.

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I can give a pass to pretty much anybody if they put up numbers like that. I'm just thinking about playoff time. I see what you're saying, and I agree from the stanpoint of him being the best "basketball player" to add to the roster......but he will get exposed when it matters. Plus, how many crucial games will he be in street clothes next to Grant Hill?

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Eh... Paul has been a big time clutch/playoff performer his entire career so I'm not worried. This year he was banged up and not 100 percent but he's no Chauncey Billups. If we will in through draft or trade with a SG who can defend it will make up for Pierce's decline defensively.

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Wow!!! I'm gonna go banana when this happen. Now ship dj n ebled for Garnett

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Then doc river comes in to coach lol

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Clippersfan86 wrote:
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why do people keep saying affalo??

last I knew Affalo came off the trade market when orlando traded reddick to the bucks... now they need affalo, why would they trade him??

Was just an example. Either way we should trade DJ+Bledsoe for a better center+another wing. Something like Pekovic+Budinger works for me too.

Yeah, me too, but I doubt it works for Minny. They already have Rubio, so don't have a ton of need for Bledsoe and Pekovic is way better than DJ and not too old himself. I know I wouldn't make that deal if I was Minny.

Seems to be the most probably trade partners are teams that have a real need at PG. That's why I think the rumored trade with NO sounds viable. Nobody's giving up another promising young center for DJ unless they really need to bring back Bledsoe too.

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Hmmm Matt Barnes or Paul pierce? Tough choice Wink

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Maybe not a starter, but I'd take Meyers Leonard off of Portland's hands. Billups is riding on fumes at best. Get Wes Matthews, Meyers Leonard, and the #40 pick. Then take Ryan Kelly or Mike Muscala.

Trade Bledsoe to the Jazz for Gordon Heyward and their 2nd Rounder if they'll cough it up. Then add another 5 to compete. Take Jeff Withey or Gorgui Dieng at 25 to get that shot blocking presence back in the lineup. You need perimeter defenders that hustle and can shoot n' get to the FT line.

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yea right

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I'd rather have a center for two years than be playing 4 on 5 again like last year. Garnett for one game is better than DJ for his career.

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And he'll be better on another team, or at home retired........"for one game" at a time...

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clips15deep wrote:
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What happens if Garnett retires after 1 year, whose our replacement at Center?

I'd rather have a center for two years than be playing 4 on 5 again like last year. Garnett for one game is better than DJ for his career.

Garnett hates playing center. Having Blake at center is asking for trouble.

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Seems to be the most probably trade partners are teams that have a real need at PG. That's why I think the rumored trade with NO sounds viable. Nobody's giving up another promising young center for DJ unless they really need to bring back Bledsoe too.

Trade Bledsoe to the Jazz for Gordon Heyward and their 2nd Rounder if they'll cough it up. Then add another 5 to compete. Take Jeff Withey or Gorgui Dieng at 25 to get that shot blocking presence back in the lineup. You need perimeter defenders that hustle and can shoot n' get to the FT line.

The Jazz are definitely a team we should talk to. They have a glut of bigs and no real PG. I could see them having a high level of interest in E-Bled.

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If we talk to Utah I'd ask nonstop for Favors or Hayward.

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We don't want the Celt's Senior Citizens. Either Pierce or Garnett are OK. We are sacrificing youth for over the Hill guys. Granted they could play once but that is history. We cannot afford to rebuild in two years when most of our guys are 35+. DJ was supposed to be an answer to that problem. Oh Well We need guys in their early mid twenties. The SAS core has been around ?? years. These old guys have two.

Barnes and Pierce are a great one two punch but Barnes will want and deserve a multiyear contract. How can we dump Butler is the question. I can live with DJ if we get Pierce/Barnes. I will however have frequent bouts of loose bowels. If Billups retiires I am $100 comfortable with Willie starting. However I'd start Mike Smith on stilts before DJ. $10 mill for three years is a tough sell. We need a young swing man playing 2 and three, If I could get Lopez I'd be in heaven

Who is in Free agency in 2014- 16 to fill our SF position? We have to consider this. Bledsoe definitely is not the guy. He will cost $$$. Eric Gordan is too expensive. Bang for the buck I'd rather have Willie. Willie's not injury prone. $14 mill contract for a guy who may miss half the season vs one of the best 3 pt shooters in the NBA?

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Back to Pierce. He wants a contender. There's Indiana, Miami, Memphis, SAS if they have a year left. The Lakers (to suck hind teat) Maybe the Rockets if they get D12. Pierce with GSW?

Then there's---

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Orlando isn't trading Vucevic for DJ, why do people keep posting that, it's a homer trade, makes no sense.

Pierce for part of or full MLE

DeAndre + 25th for KG

Caron for Ariza (future second if needed)

Bledsoe for lottery pick and/or cash for 13th pick

Odom for minimum or Brand for part MLE if Pierce is cheaper than expected

That's one option

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Ariza

Pierce

Griffin

Garnett

Bench: Crawford, Odom, 13th pick, other lottery pick, Green

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What youth is sacrificed for Pierce, he's a FA, signing him maybe means not being able to sign 32 year old Barnes, there's no youth sacrificed, and you sign him for 2 years. Maybe possibly signing Mayo for the MLE is the youth that is missed out on.

KG just trade DJ, not both Bledsoe and DJ, add the pick if needed. Move Bledsoe in another deal.

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Youth, my point is this. I do not have the answer to this question. First KG won't happen in a trade. He has a no trade clause I think. KG and Pierce are two year rentals. DJ is going to be harder to move than your average dump truck. Our stars will want a team that can contend for 5 yrs. We can't afford to rebuild in two years.

Do want KG, Pierce, Bullips over the hill, three starters? Two good years max. Jamal not getting younger. Barnes isn't a kid. Butler is washed up.

I mentioned getting a young swingman of hoping on free agency for a SF. Letting Barnes go probably will happen. I love the guy and wish we could keep him. Bledsoe may never be a team leader or if so he has a ways to go.

In two years we will need in order to contend if we get KG, Pierce

A starting center, back up center

Back up PF

Starting and Back up SF

Starting SG maybe back up SG

Back up PG

Every contending team has three major stars. We were hoping DJ would be ours. He ain't. We need one more young star.

OJ Mayo isn't the answer. I don't know the answer.

I'd rather have a washed up KG than DJ. Why would Boston want him? Do you think Rivers would put up with his nonsense? Why would anybody in their right mind want a center who is soft, has no backbone, gets a bad attitude and pouts, drops balls, shoots less than 50% ft's and you can't play in the 4th quarter and has three years left on a $10 mill contract? If you were a GM would you?

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No way in hell the Magic would give up Vujevic. We Are better off going for Garnett for DJ and a first (I'm sure he'll waive the trade clause if Pierce is signed with us). Or attempt to get Varejao.

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I think OJ Mayo is the answer.. Why do you think he's not?

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http://nba.si.com/2013/03/22/nba-shooti ... yane-wade/ they had Jamal Crawford at #7 for top 10 sg's last year... Why not focus our energy on getting IGGY?

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Chris Paul, Jamal Crawford, Andre Iguadala, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan + great coach = ring

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You dont improve much offensively but you improve defensively with IGGY. Big time... Also.. though there isnt much improvement on offense there is an improvement because Jamal will be killin it....

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Who said Iggy is available.

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Well... "IF" he opts out lol

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Oh, the big IF. Odds are low we can get him...very low.

Plan B?

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top 10 SF's

#1 Lebron James

#2 Kevin Durant

#3 Carmelo Anthony

#4 Paul George

#5 Rudy Gay

#6 Josh Smith

#7 Paul Pierce

#8 Luol Deng

#9 Danilo Gallinari

#10 Chandler Parsons

that was 2013's top 10 sf's

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Who's top 10 list was this.

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Pierce IMO is #5 best SF. We would have #1 PG & PF, #5 SF, and the #1 6th Man. That's a championship team for sure.

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