Rumor: Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler for Arron Afflalo

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Just found this trade rumor on espn insider from Chad Ford. Sounds like Magic don't like Trey Burke and would be more than willing to trade Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler. What do you say? Sounds pretty damn good to me! Not really a fan of Butler at this point. And Affalo would be the perfect backcourt mate for Paul. Would would play SF though? Maybe Barnes? http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/9321266/2013-n ba-draft-nerlens-noel-remains-front-runner-top-pick-other-draft-rumors Magic to make a draft move? Despite their need at point guard, sources say the Magic aren't sold on Trey Burke as the second-best player in the draft. While they certainly haven't ruled out Burke with the No.....

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Nice but doubtful

sfernald
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So you don't like it from a clippers perspective?

tense2
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Yes. Good deal for both teams. If I was Orlando, I'd defferently pick Victor O or Ben M.

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So their draft pick,and Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler? I say yes! We could nab one of the top SF's or C's in draft. I have a feeling Bledsoe ends up on the Magic or Jazz, always have felt that way. He would be an amazing fit with the young Magic core of Harkless, Harris and Vujevic.

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I'm definitely all for this one. What's Afflalo's salary right now?

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Wait I misread. Just Bledsoe and Butler for Afflalo? Hell no. We can get way better.

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As good of a fit as Afflalo is... He's nowhere near as valuable as Bledsoe.

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sfernald wrote:
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Nice but doubtful

So you don't like it from a clippers perspective?

If orlando actually go through with this....then im all in

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7.7 mil. Plus we'd pick some 2+mil in salary space to add for additional player(s)....maybe Pierce. 8)

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No way man- you're trading away 2 good players for one good player in Afflalo who has missed like 20 games the past two season. Doesn't sound like a good formula for improving the team.

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I'm definitely all for this one. What's Afflalo's salary right now?

7.7 mil.

That barely covers Caron's salary alone.

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Yes do it

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Whoever gets Bledsoe gets dj contract butler is expiring contract not hard to move

Clippers should look to get varajeo from cavaliers for dj and butler that's way cavs can draft Otto porter and their line up would be dj Thompson porter waiters kyrie Irving

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Caron is definitely not good and Bledsoe is as good as gone and with Afflalo, I don't think we are settling. He is a great defender and a definite upgrade for our team. We will definitely acquire another young talent as Afflalo's contract won't cover both Bled and Butler so hopefully the FO can brew something up. Maybe even get a 3rd team involved.

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Well one potentially very good player and one over the hill guy really.

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I'm definitely all for this one. What's Afflalo's salary right now?

7.7 mil.

That barely covers Caron's salary alone.

Correct and that gives us 2+mil to spend on another player.

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Bad trade and I don't buy this rumor for one second. Insider rarely has any scoops, but they do like to give their opinions on trades.

Why would we give up an expiring contract along with Bledsoe for Afflalo? Why not trade Butler's expiring ( expirings are more valuable in this CBA) and Bled for something better? or make separate trades to maximize what we have. They should be willing to take Butler alone to free up Afflalo's spot for Oladipo or McLemore. That's doing them a favor, not us.

All bogus based on the simple logic.

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That's true- Caron is getting old and is overpaid. He did hit a bunch of 3's for us, and we're already a team that's very average when it comes to 3 point shooting.

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We get Butler's contract off of our hands and get a solid starting SG! Who wouldn't do this? and we get additional cap space that is worth Bledsoe if you ask me.

CP- Affalo- Barnes - Blake Griffin - Deandre Jordan

All under a new coach should be quite interesting....

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We should be getting Harkless or Nicholson in return as well. No way I would do this trade with the current offer.

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DJ is not going anywhere... This dude is only 24 years old with more upside than downside and with the right coach (And personal coach) DJ can progress and become a solid center.

With that being said, Butler and Bledsoe for Afflalo and a draft pick... Why not? The Clippers get a solid player from L.A. and a draft pick which I would think it's a first rounder.

Afflalo would be a great fit... This guy plays with a lot of heart, can score, great defender, can play SG and SF. Afflalo has improved each and every year.

Possible Starting Five:

Paul

Mayo

Afflalo

Griffin

DJ

Damn...

Heediot
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Three way deal Clipper-Magic-Celtics

Magic get

Bledsoe

Butler

Celtics get

D. Jordan

M. Harkless or Nicholson

Clippers 1st round pick

Clippers get

Affalo

Garnett

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pjm23xp

Clippers sign Pierce MLE

Paul-Billups

Afflalo-Crawford

Pierce-Hill

Griffin-Odom

KG-KMart or J. O'neal

We become a vet team, but have a dangerous well rounded squad.

I would also trade Crawford for a SF who can shoot the 3 and play defense and re-sign Green as the backup 2.

david
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Afflalo is a very good player, but Bledsoe + Butler is too much to give up. Now if Orlando decides to give us their pick (or swap picks with us), then we're talking. I doubt that the Magic will do that, however.

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Last year was a down year for Afflalo and he's better at the sg spot than sf. Still good deal IMO.

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There obviously has to be something else or some sort of picks involved bc of the salaries. I believe Bledsoe is supposed to get around 5mill this year... If some one can check on that

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david wrote:
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Well one potentially very good player and one over the hill guy really.

That's true- Caron is getting old and is overpaid. He did hit a bunch of 3's for us, and we're already a team that's very average when it comes to 3 point shooting.

Afflalo is younger, better shooter, much better defender and gets paid less than Caron. What's not to like, LOL.

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haha i was confused at first too but hell no i agree i think we can get way better.

tense2
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He's owed 2.6 mil this year. The trade works.

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If they add in Vucevic or a 1st rounder I'm all for it.

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Please. roll

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tense2 wrote:
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DJ is not going anywhere... This dude is only 24 years old with more upside than downside and with the right coach (And personal coach) DJ can progress and become a solid center.

With that being said, Butler and Bledsoe for Afflalo and a draft pick... Why not? The Clippers get a solid player from L.A. and a draft pick which I would think it's a first rounder.

Afflalo would be a great fit... This guy plays with a lot of heart, can score, great defender, can play SG and SF. Afflalo has improved each and every year.

Possible Starting Five:

Paul

Mayo

Afflalo

Griffin

DJ

Damn...

Last year was a down year for Afflalo and he's better at the sg spot than sf. Still good deal IMO.

That's true but you also have to consider that Afflalo had to be the main man with the Magic...

If Afflalo joins the Clippers than a lot of that pressure would be taken off thus seeing the usual hard working Afflalo again.

This is a love and hate deal... I would love to see Afflalo with the Clippers but I hate that the Clippers will lose Bledsoe.

tense2
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^Yep, I agree. Unless Bledsole is given a shot at the staring sg position he's gone somewhere. Where is the question.

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Now that's not realistic. Their pick is #2 and Vucevic is a double double machine. Maybe we could get them to throw in Harkless, but we have to be realistic.

I know they are trying to get rid of big baby who would be a great replacement for Odom actually.

We could do:

Bledsoe

Butler

Green

Hill (retires)

For

Afflalo

Big baby

Works in trade machine. What do you think of that? I actually think big baby is really underrated.

sfernald
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The_Blake_Show wrote:
tense2 wrote:

Last year was a down year for Afflalo and he's better at the sg spot than sf. Still good deal IMO.

That's true but you also have to consider that Afflalo had to be the main man with the Magic...

If Afflalo joins the Clippers than a lot of that pressure would be taken off thus seeing the usual hard working Afflalo again.

This is a love and hate deal... I would love to see Afflalo with the Clippers but I hate that the Clippers will lose Bledsoe.

I just still have fresh in my mind that game at the staples center where he lit us up and the Magic beat us.

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if ORL offer a 1st rounder. it wont be this year. it will be a future one and most likely be protected.

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We could do better than this. I'd really try and push for their draft pick.

Bledsoe, Butler + DJ for Afflalo, #2 pick + Harrington. I'm not sure that the money works but we would have to take on a bad contract.

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I'm okay with it more now after talking to Magic fans. Seems like Afflalo was forced to be THE guy in Orlando last year but as some in this thread have said... playing as the 3rd guy next to two superstars who are amazing playmakers... I expect a nice bounceback for Afflalo. Plus the guy is just 27 years old.. so not like he's on the decline yet.

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Bledsoe is great and all but he is bound to leave so why not get what we can now? He is definitely not a SG, and CP gets most minutes at PG.

Keeping bledsoe doesn't make sense, we already have Wayns and Billups at most should be returned to a vet min playing PG as a backup.

We need a REAL starting SG. Green could possibly leave, and isn't the best option and Jamal is our 6th man.

We desperately need SG's and SF's since Butler will probably be gone and Barnes wants more money.

I can live with DJ under a coach, hopefully good things happen. Affalo will give us that consistent 3rd scoring option we been lacking.

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sfernald wrote:
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If they add in Vucevic or a 1st rounder I'm all for it.

Now that's not realistic. Their pick is #2 and Vucevic is a double double machine. Maybe we could get them to throw in Harkless, but we have to be realistic.

I know they are trying to get rid of big baby who would be a great replacement for Odom actually.

We could do:

Bledsoe

Butler

Green

Hill (retires)

For

Afflalo

Big baby

Works in trade machine. What do you think of that? I actually think big baby is really underrated.

Unfortunately, Big Baby is not underrated....he's terrible. I understand why the Magic are disparate to find a sucker, err suitor, lol. No on the Baby.

tense2
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Doesn't work $ wise, nor would the Magic do anyway. They do not need DJ.

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you get a starting 2 guard for a starting small forward who only plays 20 very inconsistent minutes, and a backup pg who will likely never get any real minutes behind chris paul.. I don't think the trade would hurt us too much, but at the same time i would like to see if there is more out there to get rather than this.. If this is what happens so be it, but id like to see other options too.

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Seeing the light. wink

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tense2 wrote:
sfernald wrote:
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If they add in Vucevic or a 1st rounder I'm all for it.

Now that's not realistic. Their pick is #2 and Vucevic is a double double machine. Maybe we could get them to throw in Harkless, but we have to be realistic.

I know they are trying to get rid of big baby who would be a great replacement for Odom actually.

We could do:

Bledsoe

Butler

Green

Hill (retires)

For

Afflalo

Big baby

Works in trade machine. What do you think of that? I actually think big baby is really underrated.

Unfortunately, Big Baby is not underrated....he's terrible. I understand why the Magic are disparate to find a sucker, err suitor, lol. No on the Baby.

You serious? Big baby was getting 15 and 7 last year in 30 minutes before he got hurt. He's not the big baby you remember from Boston (still fat though).

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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post?id=8664

Somebody with insider plz post this? Seems like the writer is saying Orlando kills us with this trade value wise.

sfernald
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Orlando does have a second rounder this year they could throw in too. Got it from GSW.

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tense2 wrote:
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We could do better than this. I'd really try and push for their draft pick.

Bledsoe, Butler + DJ for Afflalo, #2 pick + Harrington. I'm not sure that the money works but we would have to take on a bad contract.

Doesn't work $ wise, nor would the Magic do anyway. They do not need DJ.

They were going to draft Noel anyways so why wouldn't they need DJ? Vucevic at the PF spot with DJ at Center would be a pretty good young front court minus DJ's god awful FT's.

I always though Vucevic would be better at PF because of his range and he can box out any PF.

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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post?id=8664 Somebody with insider plz post this? Seems like the writer is saying Orlando kills us with this trade value wise.
ESPN's Chad Ford reported this morning that Orlando is interested in trading Arron Afflalo to the Los Angeles Clippers in return for Eric Bledsoe and the expiring $8 million contract of Caron Butler. While the deal would make a lot of sense for the Magic, shedding Affalo's lengthy contract and freeing them up to draft someone like Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo with the No. 2 pick in next month's draft, we have to wonder how much sense it'd make for....

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^^ we are getting Shabazz!!

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http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/post?id=8664 Somebody with insider plz post this? Seems like the writer is saying Orlando kills us with this trade value wise.
ESPN's Chad Ford reported this morning that Orlando is interested in trading Arron Afflalo to the Los Angeles Clippers in return for Eric Bledsoe and the expiring $8 million contract of Caron Butler. While the deal would make a lot of sense for the Magic, shedding Affalo's lengthy contract and freeing them up to draft someone like Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo with the No. 2 pick in next month's draft, we have to wonder how much sense it'd make for....

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