Rumor: Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler for Arron Afflalo (P. 7)

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"BIG BIG BIG news so last week I posted that Eric Bledsoe was in Orlando looking for a house with a Realtor Company who my friend happens to work for.. Well basically the word on the street is that he already has a house picked out.. the cash is ready to be handed over the last thing in line is for him to be traded early-mid Thursday morning."

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Very very interesting. If true.. maybe they have already informed him.

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that sucks ass

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I would immediately try to sign OJ Mayo, if not possible or won't happen THEN I would make this deal. Definitely a good deal. Bledsoe and shed off Butler's contract for Affalo which would resolve who starts at 2 and a damn good SG at that, a young PF in Nicholson and a #12 draft pick? This deal makes too much sense. I don't think Bledsoe will blow up like eveyrone thinks. I think he will improve, but not worth a pick and Affalo, and the addition of getting rid of butler's salary.

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Oh, the old "I have a friend who" thing huh...well have to wait till Thursday and see if that's actually true

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Bledsoe getting traded is inevitable even if Doc likes him a lot. Financially, Clips will not be able to afford him when he becomes a free agent after next season. It's smart to trade him now and I trust the front office, especially with Doc on board to get the best deal possible.

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You can wait until next to make a S&T deal if necessary. We don't NEED to trade him THIS year, particularly if Doc wants to give him a shot at the sg spot. You might be surprised how good that may work out.

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lmao these orlando fans are a lot worse than the boston fans. they think we NEED Afflalo and have to acquire him at all costs lmfao!

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But would teams even do a sign and trade instead of just offering him a contract they know the Clips won't be able to match? I'm not so sure how the whole sign and trade thing works. In my opinion, Bledsoe's stock won't get any higher than it is right now. If Doc wants to keep him and give it a run next season, I'm definitely all for it. I would just hate to lose him for nothing.

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Bledsoe and Butler for Afflalo and Nicholson plus 1st round pick? Do it!

Clipper nation loves Bledsoe but people must understand that a team will offer Bledsoe 10 million a year at the very least. If the Warriors offered DJ $10 million I think it's safe to say Bledsoe will get the same if not more.

Afflalo is a great player who can play multiple positions, works hard every game, and plays great defense especially perimeter. Nicholson has a nice game perfect back up for Blake. 1st rounder is icing on the cake.

I say the Clippers should still pursue a shooting guard (OJ Mayo) and make Afflalo the small forward. Purse Jermaine O'Neal. Re-sign Barnes and Hollins as well as Billups and Odom for veterans minimum only.

CP3 / Billups / Wayns

Mayo / Crawford / Green

Afflalo / Barnes / Summers

Blake / Nicholson / Odom

DJ / Hollins / O'Neal

This squad being lead by DOC RIVERS... Western Conference Finals!

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Not sure how true that is considering this deal don't have to wait till the draft or don't have to made after the draft. Why would Bled rush out to buy a house in Orlando when he has all off season to do it?

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I heard the same exact crap during the Bledsoe for Millsap rumors. Someone is friends with someone who knows someone, which means the trade is happening!

And as usual non-clipper fans know EXACTLY what Chris wants. "You need X player in order for Chris to stay, we have all the leverage...." Things in clipperland aren't so bad that Chris would demand that we trade for Afflalo or some other role player in order for him to stay. And if his future was that shaky here, why would the clippers prematurely trade Bledsoe?

And there's still a great chance that Doc rolls with a Paul/Bledsoe starting backcourt.

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Bledsoe and Butler for Afflalo and Nicholson plus 1st round pick sounds good!

Let's resign, Hollins, Turiaf (great locker room guy, hard worker), Odom for vet mins. Resign Barnes and hopefully get Pierce!

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Nicholson has a 7'4" wingspan. If the Clippers get him, then I'd like to see him used some at Center.

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My issue is this. The deal reported on ESPN is huge, but that same article says Doc may not be on board with that trade. I'm hoping rivers doesn't get his way and they trade Bledsoe for afflalo and those pieces involved.

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Well Doc is the de-facto GM now, so I imagine all trades, Draft picks and FA signings will go through him.

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now that these talks between affalo and bledsoe are heating up, is this really the best we can get for eric bledsoe? i can almost guarantee that the other 29 teams in the NBA are also high on bledsoe so to think the best we can get for him is affalo is pretty mind boggling. why not wait until the trade deadline and then begin to shop him. plus I'm sure bledsoe will even get better understand Doc's system which will only make bledsoes value much higher

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His stock can definitely get higher and then maybe we keep him.

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exactly. I'm still looking for that paul/bled starting guard lineup

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bledsoe's buying a house in orlando?!?! what?!!?!?!?! basketball players don't have more than 1 house? smh...

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Lol, and usually players have a house in Orlando or Miami either way.

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CapsNClips wrote:
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bledsoe's buying a house in orlando?!?! what?!!?!?!?! basketball players don't have more than 1 house? smh...

Lol, and usually players have a house in Orlando or Miami either way.

Taxes, taxes, taxes.

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He's on a rookie contract.

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divinebeast wrote:
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bledsoe's buying a house in orlando?!?! what?!!?!?!?! basketball players don't have more than 1 house? smh...

He's on a rookie contract.

I think he can afford 1 or 2 houses on a measly 2.6 mil he'll be paid this year. The next year he'll be able to buy another 2 homes if he wants. Very Happy

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Eric is a stud. We already know that. But to me, being 61 tall and being 6 4 is a big difference when you play SG.

The package: AA , nicholson and a pick is very good for us. (future pick from what year?)

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I assume we all expect this as of this moment:

@JoshuaBRobbins: Two @NBA sources tell the @OrlandoSentinel that a Afflalo-Bledsoe trade is NOT close: http://t.co/rW3eoPkn2J

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He maybe 6'-1" tall but he plays much taller then that. How many blocks does he have in his career?....oh yeah, that's right a lot.

A stud is a stud no matter how tall he is and we'll soon find out what Doc thinks about it.

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I hope we will not regret trading EBled once he start blocking CP3's drive, he is hardworker as other people said a mini lebron.

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I don't understand the need to rid ourselves of Bled this year. I'd rather keep him and let him walk in free agency. Afflalo is gonna handcuff us for 3 years at nearly 8 million dollars per.

Crawford's last 2 years are not guaranteed, and if Bled walks we'll have $$ and roster spots available for free agency in 2014. Let's draft a SG on Thursday (Crabbe,Franklin,Hardaway JR) and use DJ/Butler as trade chips.

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GREATEST TRADE OF ALL TIME IF I AM READING CORRECTLY!

Magic want to give us Afflalo, Nicholson and a future 1st in this trade. I'd accept immediately. Nicholson is a terrific shooter for a big man and would help big time off the bench given the fact he can play the 4. Afflalo and a future 1st as well? OMFG yes, this could be a Minnesota draft pick all over again.

YES YES YES

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I agree Nicholson and a future 1st makes this trade more palatable.

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Afflalo shoots nearly 46% for his career from the field, 38% from 3pt land and 81% from the FT line. He's an above average scorer, good defender, has been passing the ball well the last couple years and will open up the floor a ton. Affalo could also double as a SF if we run a smaller lineup with Cp3 and Crawford in the backcourt.

If the Magic are serious that they will include Andrew Nicholson and a first rounder for Bledsoe and Butler, I'd jump on that faster than a naked Kate Beckinsale in my bed. That is a tremendous trade. I don't care how much I love Bledsoe, his 15-22 MPG aren't going to be nearly as valuable as a full time starting SG getting 33+ MPG whose 10x's the player Chauncey is right now.

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Yea I wouldn't want to trade Bledsoe so quickly unless we have reviewed our best options

Smith/granger/affalo etc were all rumored to be in trades for Bledsoe

I'm sure more players can come up and we should listen!!

Even lbj for Bledsoe haha jk

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I don't think there are many options out there for Bledsoe. Getting too picky is the wrong thing to do here. If the Magic truly are willing to take Caron and Bledsoe, give up a future 1st ( that could very well end up being a lottery pick, even top 5 ), Nicholson and Afflalo this is a deal that is a STEAL. Bledsoe is talented, but may never hit the All Star game. Sure he steals and blocks shots, but how well is he going to be leading an entire team all by himself?

Bledsoe can easily be a 14/4/6 guy who gets 2 steals a night, solid numbers but that doesn't count his FG%, 3pt%, FT% and his numbers in the clutch. Easily it will take Bledsoe 2 years as a full time starter to really come into his own. Regardless if the pick is protected or not, the Magic are in big trouble with salary and they don't have a true winner on their team. It will take a ton of luck in the lottery and clutch wins for the pick they would send us to be bad.

As much as I love Granger, his injuries the last couple years have been worry some. I'd rather take a healthy guy right now, a solid backup PF ( who honestly could start on 8 teams in the league ) and a 1st rounder for a backup PG and a bad contract.

Remember, the Clippers and CP3 REALLY want to bring back Matt Barnes and he can easily start at SF for us. That would give us one helluva fast, agile, young starting 5 who can spread the floor. Toss in Nicholson and Crawford off the bench and whoever else we sign and I think were in a good spot to play for a top 3 seed in the West or better.

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Say we do trade him to Orlando

Who's going to be our sf backup if Barnes is our sf

In my opinion we definitely need a better sf than Barnes

I would only love to see Barnes come off the bench

Granger yea he has his injuries but he's still a verru productive player

When healthy he is an offensive threat

Granger would start for our sf position. We then draft a player who can play the guard/forward position just in case granger gets injured to back up Barnes

Smith would also solidified our sf position

I have respect for his game but some people differ

Howard rumor we would have a duo of cp3 and Howard idk how our roster filled will play out with that trade

Other teams in need of pg

Utah, Toronto, nyk, sac, Dallas,

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My issue is this. The deal reported on ESPN is huge, but that same article says Doc may not be on board with that trade. I'm hoping rivers doesn't get his way and they trade Bledsoe for afflalo and those pieces involved.

Well Doc is the de-facto GM now, so I imagine all trades, Draft picks and FA signings will go through him.

yes i know, but we all know that we need a wing, and i would be dissapointed ife he vetoed Bledsoe for Afflalo Sad

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boom was it you that had that avatar of baron davis with the boom box and roller skates a few years ago?

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I could be wrong but didn't Doc say he wanted Bledsoe to stay?

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no, you're right he wants bledsoe in this lineup. ITs on ESPN.

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as much as i love watching bledsoe play, we need to flip him while we can for the shooting guard/small forward of our future. Bledsoe unfortunately can't shoot well enough to get the spacing we need. he has more value to us as trade bait. i really don't feel like he will ever have the bball iq to be a starter, so we need to trade him while the other teams are coveting him.

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For all we know, Doc could have wanted Bledsoe to not be in the the Garnett deal because he already had another trade in mind, we know he has been in contact with Clippers personnel (along with Grant Hill) and probably CP3 for a month or more.

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we should try vucevic and afflalo for dj and bledsoe we both give up one big contract and one young player with talent seems fair if we need to take in more players like quinn or nicholson and or moore we can take them if necessary to make trade but it is not necessary via espn trade machine two for two

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His 3pt % is better than Paul. He's 80% from the FT line He worked hard in the off season to learn that and if given minutes and coaching he'll be a great shooter. He's a Magettee Jr and a good defender. He can't defend larger guards but how big was Iverson? He played a lot of SG. Also remember each block erased 2 pts from the opponents' score. In other words add two pts to his stats. He can guard the likes of Parker while Parker torches CP3

Chauncey said kinda sideways that VDN didn't develop our young players. There is only one young player to develop Bledsoe.

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As far as Affalo

Drum roll please

Affalo rough two year average/36 mim maybe wrong since I can't add 2+2

FG% 0.45, 3pt% 0.35 FT% 82, Reb 3.5 PPG 16 $7.7 mill

The Unknown Player

FG% 0.465, 3pt% 0.43, ft% 0.78, reb 3, PPG 14 $1.7 mill. Started during our best win streak ever

Am I missing something here? WTF are we considering a trade?

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pageC4 wrote:
BoomRizzle wrote:
I assume we all expect this as of this moment:

@JoshuaBRobbins: Two @NBA sources tell the @OrlandoSentinel that a Afflalo-Bledsoe trade is NOT close: http://t.co/rW3eoPkn2J

boom was it you that had that avatar of baron davis with the boom box and roller skates a few years ago?

yup yup Very Happy

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Afflalo is a way better fit on this team.

Afflalo can space the floor, create his own shot and can hit the 3.

Afflalo is the main scorer and needs help. Playing with Paul and being coached by Rivers will make him twice as good as he is now.

And he's just hitting his prime. So why wouldn't we want to get him, Nicholson, and a pick? Clippers win big time here.

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i liked afflalo way better when he was a denver nugget. he played exactly like danny green. once he got traded to orlando i feel like his game got worse even though his numbers might have went up. i think the reason for that was that he was more of a role player in denver and he had to quickly adjust as a star in orlando since he was basically the number 1 option. if we trade for him i think he would perfectly fit because he would make the transition back to being a role player and plus he will play alongside of cp3. i still think trading bledsoe for him might be a little too much but if they include a unprotected 1st round pick then I'm down for it

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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
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as much as i love watching bledsoe play, we need to flip him while we can for the shooting guard/small forward of our future. Bledsoe unfortunately can't shoot well enough to get the spacing we need. he has more value to us as trade bait. i really don't feel like he will ever have the bball iq to be a starter, so we need to trade him while the other teams are coveting him.

His 3pt % is better than Paul. He's 80% from the FT line He worked hard in the off season to learn that and if given minutes and coaching he'll be a great shooter. He's a Magettee Jr and a good defender. He can't defend larger guards but how big was Iverson? He played a lot of SG. Also remember each block erased 2 pts from the opponents' score. In other words add two pts to his stats. He can guard the likes of Parker while Parker torches CP3

Chauncey said kinda sideways that VDN didn't develop our young players. There is only one young player to develop Bledsoe.

Where to begin, Maggette was never a star so being jr him isn't very impressive. Stick with the mini lebron name that he got if youre trying to build him up. Then you compare him to one of the greatest guards of our time? He will never be close to iverson. Each block isn't worth minus 2 points and plus 2 for him. many of those blocks involve the ball being knocked out of bounds where they get it back and score on the following play so all it did was delay the points from happening. Thats the problem with blocks, everyone gets excited by them and the majority of the time they are just swatted out of bounds or go back to the other team.

People are vastly over rating Bledsoe when saying that he is going to be as good as paul or parker or any of the star guards in our league. He plays wild and out of control but he does have Amazing D. I would agree if someone said he is one of the best defensive guards in the league, but to compare him to CP or Iverson or any other stud is wrong. We need to trade him while he is hot.

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I am not too sure if this can work out, but if we can somehow steal Vucevic that would be amazing. Don't know what would satisfy Orlando, but if for example we agree to get Nelson out of their hands, then a trade could fit very well:

We get Nelson, Afflalo and Vucevic

Orlando get DJ, Bledsoe and Butler

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Afflalo's CAREER 3 point shooting is over 38 percent. As others have said... as a 3rd option here he will thrive FAR more efficiency wise than as a 1st option in Orlando.

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possibly, but I'm with the FO on this one. We have watched Bledsoe play all year long and we know his limitations and flaws better than Doc does at this point. I'm sure Doc has probably only seen Bledsoe play in such small spurts that he only sees the good.

For over a year now Bledsoe has shown me a few things. Above all its his energy that makes him an asset. We can see him sprint like a gazelle down court and block an opponents shots. He can pester a defender with his ability to keep pace with anyone.

But its this same energy that causes him to take the ball downcourt when he plays the 1 and make a bullet like pass that always turns into a turnover. Also, few people can keep up with that speed of his and as a result he often gets to the rim before his teammates do, and he has no one to pass it to so he attempts hero ball plays, which don't always materialize.

At this point we are no longer a squad with the luxury of grooming guys like him and DJ. And while I love Bledsoe, guys like Afflalo or Reddick provide more for this club than Bledsoe can. I hope Doc views some tape and sees what the rest of us fans have as well, because if he does i have a feeling he will also think along the same lines as the rest of the FO and look to get us that wing player we desperately need

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