Rumor: Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler for Arron Afflalo (P. 2)

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Clippersfan86
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I agree that something like pick 13+Crowder would be more desirable. Although Afflalo is nice too..

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sfernald wrote:
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Last year was a down year for Afflalo and he's better at the sg spot than sf. Still good deal IMO.

That's true but you also have to consider that Afflalo had to be the main man with the Magic...

If Afflalo joins the Clippers than a lot of that pressure would be taken off thus seeing the usual hard working Afflalo again.

This is a love and hate deal... I would love to see Afflalo with the Clippers but I hate that the Clippers will lose Bledsoe.

I just still have fresh in my mind that game at the staples center where he lit us up and the Magic beat us.

I remember that...

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CP3

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Lol.

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Add in DJ & our draft pick & give back Vucecic (however u spell it)!

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We could do better than this. I'd really try and push for their draft pick.

Bledsoe, Butler + DJ for Afflalo, #2 pick + Harrington. I'm not sure that the money works but we would have to take on a bad contract.

Doesn't work $ wise, nor would the Magic do anyway. They do not need DJ.

They were going to draft Noel anyways so why wouldn't they need DJ? Vucevic at the PF spot with DJ at Center would be a pretty good young front court minus DJ's god awful FT's.

I always though Vucevic would be better at PF because of his range and he can box out any PF.

Actually think Noel as a PF in the NBA. They should keep Vucevic at center if the smart, plus Noel will lucky if he even plays next year.

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Again, they don't need DJ.

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Like that deal also.

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By doing a deal with DAL we would be helping them take Chris off our hands. That's the F*CKING stupidest idea ever.

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tense2 wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
I agree that something like pick 13+Crowder would be more desirable. Although Afflalo is nice too..

Like that deal also.

Actually I'm sure we could get both Carter and Crowder and #13 for Bledsoe. Crowder is just 500k salary and a throw in piece. Maybe this is more realistic.

Cp3/Pierre Jackson (#25)

Carter/Crawford/Green

Barnes/Crowder

Griffin/David West (signed midlevel)

Steven Adams (#13)/DJ/Hollins

What do you think about that lineup?

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Why? We give them Bledsoe, why would they want Chris? This deal goes through when they give up on their plan A.

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I say we wait on caron, like the insider says, we can prolly get something better closer to the trade deadline. That Mavs deal don't sound too bad either, I say better than the Magic deal imo

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Trade no one to anyone until we see what our PG is doing on July 1st. Let's try not to play fantasy basketball and trade away good pieces before we know great pieces are here to stay. And I was the evidently the one against vote. Too lopsided and not in our favor to me.

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By doing a deal with DAL we would be helping them take Chris off our hands. That's the F*CKING stupidest idea ever.

Why? We give them Bledsoe, why would they want Chris? This deal goes through when they give up on their plan A.

They won't want to do this deal after CP signs with us, the whole point of this trade is for them to shed money to get CP and Dwight.

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This is the one I found: ESPN's Chad Ford reported this morning that Orlando is interested in trading Arron Afflalo to the Los Angeles Clippers in return for Eric Bledsoe and the expiring $8 million contract of Caron Butler. While the deal would make a lot of sense for the Magic, shedding Affalo's lengthy contract and freeing them up to draft someone like Ben McLemore or Victor Oladipo with the No. 2 pick in next month's draft, we have to wonder how much sense it'd make for the Clippers. In Bledsoe, the Clippers have an athletic young point guard who is no....

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I think Ariza could still be gotten for Butler

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I'm sure he could. The wizards would like his veteran ship and that is contract is expiring.

Besides Trevor Ariza is a good fit on our squad, he is almost better in every category than butler and is younger and a better defender.

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Yes, I'am serious. He's a below average shooter, rebounder and defender particularly at the center spot, let alone PF position. Look at all the numbers and you'll see.

And look at the most important number....the 13 mil he's owed for the next 2 years. That monies can be much, much better spend at a need in the starting rotation.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... sgl01.html

http://www.thenbageek.com/players/378-glen-davis

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CapsNClips wrote:
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By doing a deal with DAL we would be helping them take Chris off our hands. That's the F*CKING stupidest idea ever.

Why? We give them Bledsoe, why would they want Chris? This deal goes through when they give up on their plan A.

They won't want to do this deal after CP signs with us, the whole point of this trade is for them to shed money to get CP and Dwight.

CP3 is too busy managing our offseason to have time to interview elsewhere. He's calling all his buddies right now. I'm sure there is already a handshake agreement that he is coming back. The writing is on the wall.

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AirGriffin wrote:
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I think Ariza could still be gotten for Butler

I'm sure he could. The wizards would like his veteran ship and that is contract is expiring.

Besides Trevor Ariza is a good fit on our squad, he is almost better in every category than butler and is younger and a better defender.

Much rather explore a "deal" for Pierce 1st.

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Rumor has it that its afflalo AND the #2 overall pick.

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You serious? Big baby was getting 15 and 7 last year in 30 minutes before he got hurt. He's not the big baby you remember from Boston (still fat though).

Yes, I'am serious. He's a below average shooter, rebounder and defender particularly at the center spot, let alone PF position. Look at all the numbers and you'll see.

And look at the most important number....the 13 mil he's owed for the next 2 years. That monies can be much, much better spend at a need in the starting rotation.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... sgl01.html

http://www.thenbageek.com/players/378-glen-davis

I don't see the horribleness you do. He would be way better than Odom. Can play the PF and C so he can be a true third big off the bench replacing either of the starters. This you can give him 30+ minutes. I dont see him as a starter, but rather a bench guy for us. He would give us a big with an actual midrange jumper and post presence and some scoring punch off the bench at least.

Still, I would prefer other guys like David West of course. Chances are he will want too much money though.

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I said it weeks ago, that we needed to trade dj and ebled to for Vucevic and Aflalo. It would be great if they also took Caron. Then we could sign Pierce. ANY move with Bledsoe HAS to include DJ.

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sorry, to Orlando. DJ is a total cancer and he brings down Blake. DJ has NO game.

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If the rumor is true and its for afflalo and the #2 pick, then WOW what a steal.

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If Magic add some first round picks, then I'm down. Its seem like we're losing one instead adding one with original trade.

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Ok. Guess your not looking at all the numbers than.

Anyway the big number is the 13 mil he's getting paid. Ugh, for his bench player talents.

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Don't think it involves their #2 pick. Link?

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I want to trade with ORL because I want to watch Bledsoe grow and ORL is perfect for him. I will definitely be a Mini-Magic fan if they get Bledsoe.

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The reason they're trading Afflalo is because they're going to draft a replacement for him and go into full rebuild mode. I don't think they'll trade Afflalo AND their #2 pick...

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I'd be really happy with a DJ, Bledsoe, Butler and #25 draft pick trade for Afflalo, #2 draft pick, and a decent big they are willing to throw at us

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Generally I would agree with that like it is as Afflalo is far to solid in defense...dare I say one of the top 3 defenders at his position. They are not trading any of their young forwards, so we could try to get either a future first rounder or just dump that extra salary on them and open up the additional 2 million. In all cases, that won't be the final move we make. The only issue I have is DJ, who will be very hard to move without Bledsoe!

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If we get Malone as a coach i would give him a chance with DJ, Malone wouldnt have his bigs running around at the 3 point line he would figure out a scheme to keep them at the rim which may fit DJ a lot better, so i would concentrate on a SG and SF that can defend, Afflalo fits that mold just wish we could a get someone a little better with more upside and maybe a draft pick

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tense2 wrote:
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Rumor has it that its afflalo AND the #2 overall pick.

Don't think it involves their #2 pick. Link?

Saw it on twitter, ill post it when I get home

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That is definitely not true.

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tense2 wrote:
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Well one potentially very good player and one over the hill guy really.

That's true- Caron is getting old and is overpaid. He did hit a bunch of 3's for us, and we're already a team that's very average when it comes to 3 point shooting.

Afflalo is younger, better shooter, much better defender and gets paid less than Caron. What's not to like, LOL.

The fact that we are giving away our best trading asset and not getting rest quality in return. If it includes a 1st rounder then lets do it. But Bledsoe is coveted by too many teams to let him go in this crap deal

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clipperstown wrote:
tense2 wrote:
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Rumor has it that its afflalo AND the #2 overall pick.

Don't think it involves their #2 pick. Link?

Saw it on twitter, ill post it when I get home

If it involves the #2 pick, this trade is a no brainer. What a steal for us!

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It should be other way around Bledsoe to Aflfalo and 2nd draft pick,giving caron is too much

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The logic is very simple. Why would we trade Butler and Bledsoe for Afflalo? The magic are the ones that need to move Afflalo cause they're going to replace him via draft. Shoot, I'd tell them take Butler (expiring contract- more valuable in this CBA) and nothing more. It's basically giving away Bledsoe as filler...F that!

I'd rather trade Butler as an expiring and use Bledsoe to sell DJ to another team. the rumor is full of crap with no logic.

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We have to give them Butler because Afflalo makes $8mil a year.

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Also heard from several guys, who follow NBA closely it is Afflalo AND their pick for Bledsoe, Butler and our pick. In all cases their pick could very well be a solid player with far too much upside (Noel, McLemore, Porter).

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Afflalo and #2 pick (McLemore!) > Bledsoe, Butler, #25 pick. I would like that deal. Afflalo shot 30% from 3's last season but look at his previous seasons in Denver when he was on a better team. He shot way better, around 40% in ALL 3 seasons. If CP3 resigns, Afflalo will shoot better with more open looks. Plus Afflalo is a good defender.

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Ew I hate the Mavs deal

Afflalo is from LA, He's a perfect fit with Chris Paul, He rebounds and defends, and on a good team he's 15 ppg scorer who can knock down 3's at a 39 percent clip

Do this deal immediately

Bledsoe isn't anywhere near as good as Afflalo is

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I hate to break it to optimistic fans, but it seems the Magic want to trade Afflalo so they can pick either McLemore or Oladipo at number 2 as their shooting guard of the future. They don't want to leave the lottery without a point guard, and they are feeling pressure to take Trey Burke. However, they value Oladipo and McLemore above Burke, and would rather pick them. They want Bledsoe to be their point guard, so they can take one of the shooting guards at number 2. Because of this, I find it highly doubtful that the Magic would give us Afflalo and the number 2 pick. As much as that trade would benefit us, do not get your hopes up.

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We shouldn't move Bledsoe unless the team is willing to take on DJ's contract, & if possible send back a stretch 5.

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Bledsoe for the #2 pick. Otto Porter!!!

Porter has what this team lacks from its wing players. Shot 42% from beyond the arc in college. Don't think Bledsoe/Butler for Afflalo is a good deal on it's own.

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clips15deep wrote:
clipperstown wrote:
Rumor has it that its afflalo AND the #2 overall pick.

That is definitely not true.

it very well could be

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tense2 wrote:
clipperstown wrote:
Rumor has it that its afflalo AND the #2 overall pick.

Don't think it involves their #2 pick. Link?

NBA Rumors ‏@NBARUMORS 3h

The Orlando Magic want to acquire Eric Bledsoe from the Clippers in exchange for Arron Afflalo and the No. 2 overall pick, sources say.

believe in it or not, but a rumor is a rumor, they're all the same until something happens

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^ true

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Intriguing but it would be better if we packaged Bledsoe with DJ for a better C.

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Oh yeah and start Chauncey Billups again

Great idea. 10/10

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