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No brainer folks!

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Please no trade for Pierde, they are going to waive him, just need to wait and get him for the MLE after they release him.

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I'm halfway through a bottle of cognac to easy and steady my nerves over this (Also 'cause Remy VSOP is good sh*t)

Anyway even in my condition I don't get the hesitancy, KG or no KG. This guy wears championship rings. If you are working towards a goal would you rather have someone who's been there or somebody who's never been close?

What's with Garnet? He will under no circumstance come here and be a bench player second fiddle to DJ or anybody. In reality we would have our $10 mill pseudo star in the second unit. I doubt Pierce will be a second fiddle to Butler.

The Clippers are CP, BG, Jamal and Barnes. Everybody else can go to get Rivers. They want draft picks, we want rings. Unless we use a pick for trade bait he's unless we get a monstrosity and he will be of little use for two years. If we got a monster young SF who can have an immediate impact maybe.

Paul wants to be semi guaranteed a ring. With the exit of Miami and the Spurs getting old we can be the next big thing but not with a draft pick. Also remember the 1 in 3 Draft Pick Rule and please take my word because I don't want to look it up again A first round pick gives you maybe 1 in 3 chance of getting an all-star and then it will take a couple of years' development.

If we try for KG we need to dump DJ and get a young center who can be tutored and have impact when KG retires. Same with Peirce

Give me your addresses and if we get Doc i"ll send everybody a six pack of Guinness. Please drink at no colder that 55 degrees. If we don't I'll spring for Butt Lite Margaritas. Get rid of DJ get The Truth and the Big Ticket and Doc everyone gets a fifth of Napoleon

Over the teeth over the gums, look out stomach 'cause here it comes!

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If Doc comes Pierce will come if wavered. His chance at another ring in the maybe 2 years he had left. If there is a dump truck god, please put Butler in one.

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The Los Angeles Clippers have not formally requested permission to interview Celtics coach Doc Rivers in the wake of widespread reports about Rivers' potential departure from Boston, but there is strong mutual interest between the parties, according to sources close to the situation.

Sources told ESPN.com that Rivers is highly intrigued by the idea of coaching the Clippers in the event that he and the Celtics part company after nine seasons together and one championship in 2008. Sources say that the Clippers, meanwhile, would immediately vault Rivers to the top of their list if he became available as they continue a coaching search that, to this point, has focused on Brian Shaw, Byron Scott and Lionel Hollins.

Earlier Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times, citing several NBA executives, reported that if Rivers decides he doesn't want to coach in Boston anymore, the Clippers would be interested in him and he would become their No. 1 choice.

ESPN.com has also learned that the Celtics and Clippers -- in an offshoot of February's Kevin Garnett-to-L.A. trade talks -- discussed expanded trade scenarios that actually could have sent both Garnett and close friend Paul Pierce to the Clippers before the league's Feb. 21 trade deadline.

Sources say that those talks, before breaking down, were centered around Boston getting back both prized Clippers guard Eric Bledsoe and young center DeAndre Jordan and did not involve Clippers star forward Blake Griffin.

It is not yet known if the Clippers intend to revive those trade discussions and pursue either Garnett or Pierce -- or both -- in conjunction with this month's NBA draft. But one source familiar with the Clippers' thinking told ESPN.com that the club plans to be "very aggressive" and "shake every tree" in terms of upgrading the roster this offseason. Acquiring Garnett or Pierce -- or both -- would naturally make Rivers even more of a natural coaching target for the Clippers than he already is.

Rivers, now regarded as one of the NBA's consensus top-five coaches after his considerable success in Boston, played one season for the Clippers on the franchise's first-ever L.A. playoff team in 1991-92 after breaking in with the Atlanta Hawks.

The Clippers, sources say, are determined to pursue a bold course with their roster this summer no matter who is hired to succeed Vinny Del Negro. Step 1 is re-signing All-Star point guard Chris Paul when he becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1, but sources say that Clippers management then intends to be aggressive in upgrading the cast around Paul and Griffin in the wake of a disappointing first-round playoff exit that cost Del Negro his job.

The Clippers already had preliminary discussions with the Orlando Magic about trading for shooting guard Arron Afflalo at the predraft camp in Chicago and there is a level of mutual interest on both sides, sources said. ESPN.com's Chad Ford reported that Orlando is interested in a package that would include Caron Butler and Bledsoe, but the talks are preliminary at this point. It's believed the Clippers would want at least one more asset in order to part with their prized young point guard.

On the coaching front, meanwhile, Shaw, Scott and Hollins have all formally interviewed for the Clippers' opening this week.

Rivers, though, could thrust himself into that race after ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported Wednesday that the 51-year-old believes it "may be time for a change" despite repeated insistence from Celtics president Danny Ainge that Rivers will be back on the Boston bench next season.

"Doc loves coaching," one source close to the situation told Broussard. "He loves coaching in Boston. But he feels it may be time for a change."

Sources said Thursday that the Celtics want Rivers back and are determined to prevent him from coaching another NBA team next season since he has three years and $21 million left on his contract. But sources added that Boston could be moved to let Rivers out of his contract depending on the level of compensation they get from the Clippers, whether that's a veteran player or future draft picks. The thought in coaching circles is that the close relationship between Ainge and Rivers might help the coach get out of his obligation.

Broussard reported Wednesday that the Brooklyn Nets and Clippers did seek permission from Boston to interview Rivers for their respective openings in May, but Ainge denied both requests.

The possibility also remains that the Celtics can commit to bringing Pierce back for next season, which sources say would strongly increase the likelihood that Garnett agrees to play for a 19th season. The Celtics have until the end of June to decide to pick up Pierce's $15.3 million option for next season or buy him out this month for $5 million, provided they don't trade him first.

With Pierce and Garnett still in the fold and Rajon Rondo expected to be back for training camp after suffering a torn knee ligament during the regular season, Rivers might decide that the Celtics still have a sufficiently competitive team to convince him to remain in Boston.

Rivers signed a five-year, $35 million extension after the 2010-11 season and said he was committed to the potential long-term reshaping of Boston's roster. After the New York Knicks eliminated the Celtics from the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs, Rivers said of his future: "I'm coming back until I say I'm not."

Rivers was originally scheduled to attend Boston's workout Thursday of potential draftees but was delayed after traveling back from a competition committee meeting at the NBA Finals in San Antonio. Sources say Rivers has attended most of Boston's draft workouts while deliberating about his future and has likewise been involved in Boston's free-agent planning as well as visits with veterans Rondo, Jared Sullinger and Jason Terry, who have all been at the Celtics' workout facility rehabbing from injuries.

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If it comes down to compensation, go ahead and give them 1st round picks this year and in '15, the picks probably won't be in the top 23 or so anyway.

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Hell no to trading this much for him so KG can,retire next year. http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=9384172&city=losangeles&src =desktop

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Diamond Don hasn't been cheap for years. People don't realize that the pre-Brand and Cassell Clippers was the most profitable team in the league. He dumped good players and kept payroll to a minimum and made his profit on broadcast royalties. If he were cheap he'd still be doing that. He's said he will pay luxury tax. He opened his wallet to get Brand/Baron and Magettee. Brand was offered MORE MONEY then Philly did.

Money has not been an issue for years. The problem is that he's a glans pe*is and his ethics are suspect. MDSr had to sue to get paid. This is not the way basketball works but it is how business works. When you carry a hammer the whole world looks like a nail.

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People don't realize how much of a cutthroat douche Ainge is. He will try to gut our team. No,coach is worth that. Multiple good coaches available, no need.

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I trade for KG and that's it. There's no way I give up any assets for a coach that doesn't want to be in Boston or a player that most likely will be bought out by the Celtics. The most I'd do is take back Courtney Lee's contract in a deal to help free a cap space in Boston.

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So who were the people bashing DTS for letting all the "good" coaches go? The Front office for sitting on their asses? Doc is in play along with an abundance of coaches, more now than a few weeks ago. So glad DTS and the FO don't read this board.

Now go get Doc even if you have to wait a few extra weeks. The other coaches looking for a job ain't stupid, they'll wait it out too.

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Totally agree with this.

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The problem with "trading" for Rivers has nothing to do with whether he wants to be there. He seems to want to come to the Clippers, but since he's still under contract with Boston, he can't do that unless they give him permission to. And the only way they'd give him permission is (seemingly) if Boston gets something in return for him. So no matter how much Doc and the Clippers want each other, the Celtics still control Doc because he is under contract.

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Get Doc Make it Happen.

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Doc and Ainge, according to sources, have a very good relationship so there is a chance something can be worked out with little to no pain. With Doc showing interest in the Clippers, it opened the door for this to come to fruition. Celtics know they'll have to pay a coach for years that doesn't have his heart in it. That's almost forcing their hand into parting ways.

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^That's true, but I could definitely still see them trying to get all they can out of it. Try to get a few draft picks or something for it, because they still technically have that control.

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Buried in that article is that the Clips have talked w/ the Magic in trading for Aaron Afflalo. IMO, he'd be a great fit, and a capable 3rd star on this team.

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^Rumors about that came out a little while ago. Few things about that trade:

  1. Won't happen until Paul is inked if Bledsoe is involved.

  2. The rumored trade of Butler and Bledsoe for Afflalo is not great on the Clippers end, even though he's a nice player. Need to get more out of Bledsoe.

  3. Not sure Afflalo is a 3rd star kind of guy. Best case he could play that Danny Green role, of playing solid D and spotting up from the 3. But he hasn't been a great playmaker/go to scorer kind of guy. He'd be most successful in a more off the ball role.

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^ well said. doc rivers rumor is worth looking at, too bad the celtics denied the clips request to speak with him.

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Long time dude What's happening? HTF are you?

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I would like Doc to coach Clips but I don't want to give up any players. If that means Doc won't coach here, so be it.

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I don't think we'll have to give up anything, they will leave the Celtics on their own. I still don't want Pierce on the team, it'll be like having a bigger Billups.

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"One source familiar with the Clippers' thinking told ESPN.com the club plans to be "very aggressive" and "shake every tree" in terms of upgrading the roster this offseason."

Great to hear this.

Best line of the article.

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^ Well, that what I'm talking about! So this mean kick Odom, Ryan, Ronnie out?

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Do you have a link?

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Pull the trigger Sterling!

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Anybody else salivating at these rumors?

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"Celtics Denied Clippers' Request To Speak To Doc Rivers"

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We could see a situation now where they wait this out and see what happens with Doc even if it takes a couple of weeks, which it sounds like it will, largely because their are enough "good enough" candidates to wait. Even if 2 of Hollins, Karl and Shaw end up in Memphis and Denver, they could still hire the other one if Doc never becomes available.

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we're "gaining momentum" to get Rivers. Smile hoopshype.

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Whether we get him or not i just love the fact that there are rumors of this and us trading for Afflao...you can tell the franchise has cha nged its ways.

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From ESPN:

Sources say those talks, before breaking down, were centered on Boston getting back both prized Clippers guard Eric Bledsoe and young center DeAndre Jordan and did not involve Clippers star forward Blake Griffin.

It is not yet known whether the Clippers intend to revive those trade discussions and pursue either Garnett or Pierce -- or both -- in conjunction with this month's NBA draft. But one source familiar with the Clippers' thinking told ESPN.com the club plans to be "very aggressive" and "shake every tree" in terms of upgrading the roster this offseason. Acquiring Garnett or Pierce -- or both -- would make Rivers even more of a natural coaching target for the Clippers.

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i read that. At this point DJ for KG straight up would be something i would go for. But if they want Bledsoe they better hive us Avery or another piece.

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@FisolaNYDN: A person in the know told me tonight that Doc Rivers ending up with the Clippers is "gaining momentum."

Anybody else salivating at these rumors?

lov doc the best of the crop, but Celtics know his value. thats the problem they are going to ask for something in return, and I'm sorry but no coach is worth what the celtics are proibably askig for...ill give em DJ and his contract thats its

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By my timeline, Clips were denied request before Doc had come out saying he thinks it's time for a change.

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ClippersSince97 wrote:
jealousisjelly wrote:
"Celtics Denied Clippers' Request To Speak To Doc Rivers"

RealGM Wiretap

By my timeline, Clips were denied request before Doc had come out saying he thinks it's time for a change.

very true. I'm proud of the FO going at Doc even before he was stirring the pot

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I think it'll be stupid to do a trade of Bledsoe+DJ for PP+KG. We would be giving away talented youth for one year rentals of slow, beaten down, vets. The Clippers hold ALL the cards here. More likely than not, all of those three guys will leave the Celtics regardless, why gift them with our players?? If Doc chooses to leave, chances are that at least one of those guys to join us. We can get better value for Bledsoe elsewhere.

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Exactly! Damn your post needs to be narrated by Stephen A. Smith with that preacher like fervor

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The Clippers can ask the C's all they want, but nothing is gonna happen until Doc says "I'm either sitting out for 2 years (as his contract mandates were he to leave now) or coaching elsewhere, so you can either get some compensation (likely a draft pick or two) in return for me, or watch me on ESPN."

So them saying no means nothing until Doc makes a decision.

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Not worth any compensation unless we get kg and pierce. If we did then a trade of even Bledsoe would be worth it if we guaranteed that Paul was resigning of course throw in dj too.
Please no trade for Pierde, they are going to waive him, just need to wait and get him for the MLE after they release him.

of course if we could do that would be the best option, i just don't know if that will happen. Especially since pierce has trade value.

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i look at it this way keep an eye on rivers buyt don't put off a sure bet with other coaches. we could lose it all by the doc rovers experiemnt. Unless Rivers becomes avaialbe by this week i don't think its worth the gamble to let Karl or shaw slip through. its lie this whoile lebron free agency thing..teams were saving for him and him lone while ignoring guys like luol deng and others that could have helped their team..yes the prize was greatest but was it worth letting the other players go?

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the only problem with what you are saying is Paul Pierce averaged 19, 6 and 5 last year and only missed 5 games. He would help this team out immensely and we need a high caliber coach as well as help upfront. I am a huge Bledsoe supporter but if we resign CP3, Bledsoes role wont increase and we are definitel in a win mode now.

Imagine if we traded for Pierce and Garnett and draft Crabbe. Our team would be something along the lines of:

CP3

Crabbe (great 3 pt shooter)

Pierce

Griffin

Garnett

Crawford off the bench and then whoever else we can sign, plus we would have the MLE. Who wouldnt want to sign with the team with that kind of lineup. With Griffin making FT's we actually have a team that you couldnt even play the hack-a-player game against. Would seriously be amazing.

I bet we could get some of the following players:

PG: Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris

SG: Anthony Morrow, Terrence Williams, Pietrus, James Anderson

SF: Chase Budinger, Martell Webster, Alan Anderson, Dorrell Wright

PF: Andray Blatche, Earl Clark, Jamison, Aminu, Dejuan Blair

C: Kaman, Gustavo Ayon, Earl Barron, Aaron Gray

You pick up some of those guys for min contracts or a little more and all of the sudden you have a deep squad with a superstar starting lineup.

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I think it'll be stupid to do a trade of Bledsoe+DJ for PP+KG. We would be giving away talented youth for one year rentals of slow, beaten down, vets. The Clippers hold ALL the cards here. More likely than not, all of those three guys will leave the Celtics regardless, why gift them with our players?? If Doc chooses to leave, chances are that at least one of those guys to join us. We can get better value for Bledsoe elsewhere.

the only problem with what you are saying is Paul Pierce averaged 19, 6 and 5 last year and only missed 5 games. He would help this team out immensely and we need a high caliber coach as well as help upfront. I am a huge Bledsoe supporter but if we resign CP3, Bledsoes role wont increase and we are definitel in a win mode now.

Imagine if we traded for Pierce and Garnett and draft Crabbe. Our team would be something along the lines of:

CP3

Crabbe (great 3 pt shooter)

Pierce

Griffin

Garnett

I don't think you understood what I said. I want Doc, I want KG, not so much Pierce because he has absolutely no D left in him. My point is is that we don't have to trade anyone for their players. Doc might leave and there are reports saying there is mutual interest, so good for us, we'll sign him if we can. But KG and Pierce are provably going to leave the Celtics by themselves, so why give the Celtics our young talent when their veterans are leaving anyway? I know Bledsoe will be traded once CP3 resigns, so why not get better value elsewhere?

Also, something people are overlooking is that KG hates playing Center. He has always struggled playing Center and he has admitted it, but we keep listing him as a C in our fantasy lineups. There would be trouble if we play BG and KG together for long periods of time. Billups said on First Take that both Blake and DJ need a vet to help them transition to the next level, and I believe KG is that guy. We should try our best to keep DJ. His experience with USA basketball, along with the knowledge he gets from KG; he can turn into the Center we always wanted.

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Bledsoe as stated above may have limited value for us. Remember CP3 played almost all the time in the POs and EB got sparse minutes. While he may be a good player he's not a big asset for us unless he starts at SG and we're willing to pay $$$. Trade him. If they want DJ I'll throw him in for a bowl of baked beans and some bean.

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phaded21 wrote:
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I think it'll be stupid to do a trade of Bledsoe+DJ for PP+KG. We would be giving away talented youth for one year rentals of slow, beaten down, vets. The Clippers hold ALL the cards here. More likely than not, all of those three guys will leave the Celtics regardless, why gift them with our players?? If Doc chooses to leave, chances are that at least one of those guys to join us. We can get better value for Bledsoe elsewhere.

the only problem with what you are saying is Paul Pierce averaged 19, 6 and 5 last year and only missed 5 games. He would help this team out immensely and we need a high caliber coach as well as help upfront. I am a huge Bledsoe supporter but if we resign CP3, Bledsoes role wont increase and we are definitel in a win mode now.

Imagine if we traded for Pierce and Garnett and draft Crabbe. Our team would be something along the lines of:

CP3

Crabbe (great 3 pt shooter)

Pierce

Griffin

Garnett

I don't think you understood what I said. I want Doc, I want KG, not so much Pierce because he has absolutely no D left in him. My point is is that we don't have to trade anyone for their players. Doc might leave and there are reports saying there is mutual interest, so good for us, we'll sign him if we can. But KG and Pierce are provably going to leave the Celtics by themselves, so why give the Celtics our young talent when their veterans are leaving anyway? I know Bledsoe will be traded once CP3 resigns, so why not get better value elsewhere?

Also, something people are overlooking is that KG hates playing Center. He has always struggled playing Center and he has admitted it, but we keep listing him as a C in our fantasy lineups. There would be trouble if we play BG and KG together for long periods of time. Billups said on First Take that both Blake and DJ need a vet to help them transition to the next level, and I believe KG is that guy. We should try our best to keep DJ. His experience with USA basketball, along with the knowledge he gets from KG; he can turn into the Center we always wanted.

if that is the case thats absolutely awesome, and would be amazing. i just think we will have to do a trade to get it done. Also, Pierce still has some D and his offense would outweigh his defensive lapses.

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ON YOUR LAST POST PHADED 21 -Even though I absolutely hate dj, this is very true. But I think the only way to get kg here is to trade dj for him due to the one mill difference in the contract and maybe throw in bledsoe to. And sign pierce with the mle if hes bought out. I would LOVE a big men rotation of kg blake dj, with cp3 crawford green at the guards and barnes holdin it down on the wing. + an elite coach and were ready to go and FINALLY take that next step. DJ will definitely become that center we always wanted after playin a year with kg, and hopefully usa basketball will help him out to..hopefully

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Rumors: Vdn might replace Doc in Boston

Lol THIS IS NOT A PRANK

http://bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_ ... _fill_need

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Lol this just made me laugh so hard Lol I'm serious I fell on my a$$

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OH ME OH MY!

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