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Would you trade Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler for DeMar DeRozan or Andrea Bargnani?
Yes to DeRozan
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Yes to Bargnani
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Yes to DeRozan if they added a 1st round draft pick
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
Yes to Bargnani if they added a 1st round draft pick
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
No
65%
 65%  [ 30 ]
Total Votes : 46


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Clippersfan86
Post Subject: Eric Bledsoe for DeMar DeRozan/Andrea Bargnani Rumor Post ID: 395224by Clippersfan86 » Jun 29, 2013 - 03:53 PM PST
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Derozan or Barnani package. I know guys like Agent and Tense will will hate this but I'm all for it. Efficiency will improve with Paul feeding them and Doc coaching. Never had great PG's or coaches working with them.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395231by realbull17 » Jun 29, 2013 - 03:59 PM PST
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i luv it! Razz

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395233by ClipperKyle32 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:02 PM PST
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Unless We Get Rudy Gay!!!!! But otherwise terrible trade lets tryto keepbled until trade deadline and get better deals

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395234by clip_joint » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:03 PM PST
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No that's all I have to say

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395235by Jerediscool » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:03 PM PST
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I'm not opposed to this one either. This or the Afflalo one. Basically anything that gets us a starter on the wing. Demarr slashing in could be a nice look. And for all you local lovers, he is from compton.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395237by BringMcadooBackado » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:04 PM PST
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I might've misread, but I think it's one or the other, not both Bargnani and DeRozan.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395238by FreaKeyy » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:04 PM PST
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I like afflalo, pick and nicholson better

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395240by clippersforlife33 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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don't like this deal either, i don't see how this benefits us? bargnani can't play defense, derozan can't shoot and those are the two biggest needs. i pass

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395241by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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DeRozen...ugh.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395242by ClippersSince97 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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LOL This is a horrible trade. You can't coach someone who's riding the bench all season long in Bargnani. The last 3 seasons he played 66, 31, and 35 games. And as for Derozan, he and his contract suck equally. He's a terrible shooter, his defense is sub-par, and he has the mentality of a superstar which is never good.

                
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Post ID: 395243by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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DeRozan can't defend either.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395244by FightOnRon » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:08 PM PST
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I don't think this is a good one either. MAybe Doc can chip in some of his check to keep Ebled.

                
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Post ID: 395245by CapsNClips » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:08 PM PST
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Barg would be our 4th quarter center. Not our starting Center. Do this trade and also get a pick out of it.

                
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Post ID: 395246by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:09 PM PST
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It's the their new smart GM trying to pawn off all the trash Calangelo collected before he was moved upstairs.

                
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Post ID: 395256by clips15deep » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:19 PM PST
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How about Bled and Butler for Valunciunas and Terrence Ross?

                
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Post ID: 395258by BoomRizzle » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:23 PM PST
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How many Bledsoe threads do we need

                
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Post ID: 395259by Jerediscool » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:24 PM PST
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haha there should be one called "Bledsoe Rumors" and thats all. not one for each rumor

                
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Post ID: 395260by BoomRizzle » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:26 PM PST
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I'm looking forward to starting another one, and then getting a violation posted on my account for cluttering the forums.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395261by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:26 PM PST
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YEP, I hate it. Razz

But if your going to use that reasoning that a pg and coach is going to make the difference, then I would rather give that shot to the smaller, better over all player in Bledsoe and let him play along side Chris and be coached by Rivers.

Bargnani, is worth....no comment.

                
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Post ID: 395263by Jerediscool » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:29 PM PST
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Agreed that bargnani is trash and I'm not stoked on Demarrs deal but i like his game, and age....

                
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Post ID: 395265by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:32 PM PST
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Well he is taller, unfortunately does not help him in the long range shooting or defense department, especially for 4 more years @ 9.5 mil per. No bang for the buck there.

                
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Post ID: 395266by Clippersfan86 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:37 PM PST
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Boom tell me where you got a violation? I mentioned board clutter because 6 coaching threads per day were being made. I'm mobile so can't merge things, so I will later.

                
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Post ID: 395267by sz123456 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:41 PM PST
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Would rather have Aaron Gray than Bargnani. Lowry would be an excellent piece

                
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Post ID: 395268by CapsNClips » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:41 PM PST
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Terrence Ross for Bledsoe straight up.

                
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Post ID: 395271by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:46 PM PST
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Lowry's good, but don't need a pg.

                
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Post ID: 395272by Clippersfan86 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:49 PM PST
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Would love T Ross.

                
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Post ID: 395278by botev1921 » Jun 29, 2013 - 04:56 PM PST
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Bledsoe WILL eventually land us some very valuable pieces if things keep developing like that. This trade makes absolutely no sense as DeRozan has a non-existent 3PT shot and Bargnani is on a terrible contract and is injured all the time. I can't see a single one player on the Raptors, whom I would trade Bledsoe for.

                
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Post ID: 395280by david » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:13 PM PST
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As many as there are rumors- each one merits its own as long as it's a legitimate rumor. Updates to each rumor would not merit a new thread, however.

                
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Post ID: 395282by david » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:24 PM PST
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Added a poll- I don't think I'd do this deal because DeRozan is not a good 3 point shooter. A very good player, but unfortunately he can't hit the 3. And Bargnani is shaky at best in terms of maintaining his health, and ability to return to his all-star form.

                
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Post ID: 395283by clipperstown » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:30 PM PST
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Hey toronto, give us your 2014 pick for bledsoe straight up.

                
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Post ID: 395284by ArmoClipFan » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:33 PM PST
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barg was never an all star lol, and this is just a horrible trade.. no thank you

                
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Post ID: 395285by clipperstown » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:39 PM PST
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lmao Patrick would go crazy if derozan gets traded

                
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Post ID: 395286by Keatonsays » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:40 PM PST
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The trade would only work if we threw in a Butler or Jordan contract. Either way, I'd pass.

                
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Post ID: 395287by Hooligans » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:43 PM PST
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On what f***** planet is Bledsoe for Bargnani a good trade for the clippers? Unless we're getting Val/T-Ross/picks galore no way I'd ever trade for that shitty excuse for a center.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395288by pageC4 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:49 PM PST
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prophetic. You called it 86

                
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Post ID: 395289by clipperboy24 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:51 PM PST
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Don't like the deal either. Bargnani is a mediocre player with a hug e contract. I like zero an but feel there are better fits.

I seriously feel like we might trade Bledsoe dj, Caron and a pick for howard

                
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Post ID: 395290by CapsNClips » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:52 PM PST
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Then why do you want to keep Bledsoe? Lowry is more of a SG than Bledsoe is.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395291by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:53 PM PST
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And I'm sure you like it, lol.

                
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Post ID: 395293by Purpose » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:54 PM PST
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Pass. Bargs is too prone to injury.

                
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Post ID: 395294by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:57 PM PST
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Because Bledsoe is taller. 8)

But if we are going to trade him better get back better stuff then that.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395295by pageC4 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:57 PM PST
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i like bargnani. I'm not sure toronto is including derozan though. I might be one or the other, but if its bledsoe and butler for derozan and bargnani i like the deal.

                
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Post Subject: Re: Toronto Raptors Aggressively After Eric Bledsoe Post ID: 395296by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:58 PM PST
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Yep, I figured..prophetic.

                
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Post ID: 395297by pageC4 » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:59 PM PST
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it comes down to whether the lakers are more willing to help a rival and get something i. return or spite us and get nothing. Who knows what theyll do

                
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Post ID: 395298by CapsNClips » Jun 29, 2013 - 05:59 PM PST
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Um...Didn't you say we shouldn't get DeRozen just because he's taller?

Now height matters?

                
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Post ID: 395299by tense2 » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:03 PM PST
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Just joking...guess I should have hoisted up that flag.

                
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Post ID: 395300by Jerediscool » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:04 PM PST
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hahaha as i read it that part i could tell it was a joke, maybe just because we had been talking about it tho

                
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Post ID: 395301by CapsNClips » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:13 PM PST
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Kyle Lowry would be decent SG for us because he's been close to 40% from 3pt in the last 3 years. Also if we can get T Ross and have them take back Butler. We win and we get a secondary ball handler when CP isn't in the game.

I prefer trading with Orlando because they have younger and better assets to go along with Afflalo. And we seem to have all the leverage with them.

                
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Post ID: 395304by Jerediscool » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:15 PM PST
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and for the record id rather the deal didn't include barnani. The way i read the article was that Toronto is shopping AB but that the piece the clippers want is DD. not necessarily that it would be both. Maybe if it was DD a pick and someone like Quincy Acy or something... Landry Fields? Then thats what id want to do. I don't like AB at all. Just thought i should state that sense i was the first person to click that i like the idea of a trade like this

                
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Post ID: 395307by clipperAndrew » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:18 PM PST
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I think this would be a great trade. I feel like DeRozen could do wonders under a coach like Doc and a Chris Paul. He never had been with real leaders like those before and I don't think he is a bad character guy at all. As for Bargs that would be good too. He was drafted to be a star, but I believe he could do great in limited minutes off the bench as a second big who can spread the floor.

I am all for this trade.

                
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Post ID: 395308by pageC4 » Jun 29, 2013 - 06:20 PM PST
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orlandos deal is solid.

                
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