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Will Jamal Crawford or JJ Redick be the Starting Shooting Guard for the Clippers in 2013-2014?
Jamal Crawford
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J.J. Redick
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Another Player
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david
Post Subject: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Start, Also Unhappy? Post ID: 398135by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:45 AM PST
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I just noticed that Jamal Crawford said that he would like the chance to be a starter in response to a question a fan asked him via Twitter. Do you guys think Jamal will be the Clipper starting shooting guard, or has JJ Redick already been assumed the starter? And who would more likely be in the game during crunch time- JCrossover or Redick? Or both? Probably depends on who has been hotter, and also defensively who will match up better with their man.

IMO with Vinny Del Negro gone, Jamal may see a slight reduction in his minutes, and hence his desire to be a starter. Will there be a battle to see who gets the spot? We shall see during Clipper training camp.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Be Starter Post ID: 398138by Hooligans » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:49 AM PST
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I read that question as well, I think it was "do you think you have the tools to be able to succeed as a starting SG in the NBA" (or something along those lines). And of course he said yes, who doesn't want to start?

Wouldn't mind seeing him start and having Redick be both the backup PG and SG off the bench. The main reason I don't want to pick up THAT good of a backup PG is because I want to see Paul/Redick/Crawford all get a lot of minutes and not have any un-happy players.

Edit: looks like you had the right question David. I hope Jamal isn't mad with the clippers for trading for Redick.....

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Be Starter Post ID: 398141by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:03 AM PST
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^^Yep the question may be can Redick be a backup point guard and be successful? I've never personally seen him play point, but maybe someone who have can comment on his ability to do so. We've seen Jamal play point and it just didn't work too well.

BTW here was the question and Crawford's reply:

@JCrossover would you like the chance to be a starter again soon?"--yes.

Here is another interesting answer to another question:

@JCrossover where do you see the clippers at in 5 years? Championships?"--i don't know.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Be Starter Post ID: 398144by Grillinnap » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:09 AM PST
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I think under Doc, he can be a starter. After all, he had 3 20ppg calibre players in Allen, Pierce, and KG in the starting lineup.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Be Starter Post ID: 398146by FreaKeyy » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:16 AM PST
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Yup been following him and he always mentions his desire to be a starter. Like one time a fan asked him if he can score 50 points again, then he said maybe If was starting. I don't really mind as long as it doesn't kill the chemistry, but that is quite impossible. He should just accept his role. If he can't we can always get someone for him. Maybe we can sign Nick Young wink

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jamal Crawford Would Like to Be Starter Post ID: 398147by ClipSince7thGrade » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:16 AM PST
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I think that we'll play both Redick and Crawford in clutch situations, probably go small with a line up of Paul Redick Crawford Dudley and Griffin, depending on the make up of the opposing team. As far as the starting spot I think that both the SG and SF starting positions are up for grabes. Either you stay with chemistry and put Barnes and Crawford out there or you go with the better 3P% and put Redick and Dudley out there or you mix and match em. No matter how it ends up I think we'll be good.

                
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Post ID: 398149by FreaKeyy » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:26 AM PST
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...Interesting and very disappointing. SMH

                
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Post ID: 398150by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:34 AM PST
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You might be right- I just noticed this recent tweet:

@JCrossover all this NBA "business" going on, is it hard to keep your love for the game?--nope that's why I can play anywhere!

Uh oh.... Why would he say something like that, unless he's not too thrilled with the club. I mean he could have simply answer "nope".

                
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Post ID: 398153by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:40 AM PST
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I think it's 50/50 but if Jamal puts his mind to it, he can beat out Redick to be the starter. And it sounds like Crawford wants to be the starter. We'll see how Doc Rivers decides, and how well the other player will take it. Both have experience coming off the bench and starting, so it will be interesting to see who gets the opening nod.

                
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Post ID: 398154by Hooligans » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:44 AM PST
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I usually don't read too much into comments but that's just disappointing. Which sucks because up until right now he's been all class and fine with his role. And he doesn't exactly have a ton of trade value, considering the fact that he's strictly a scoring guard. Hopefully Doc can manage these egos.

                
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Post ID: 398155by ClipSince7thGrade » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:50 AM PST
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Wow...that's shocking, I wouldn't have thought he'd answer like that. Wonder what's going on behind the scenes

                
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Post ID: 398156by clipperstown » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:56 AM PST
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never seen j craw respond or answer like that... sounds like he's pissed and not into this team right now... wow. hopefully he was just having a bad day or something

                
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Post ID: 398157by FreaKeyy » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:04 AM PST
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You know what bothers me? None of our guys even welcomed Jared and Redick, well atleast on twitter. Hopefully they texted them or something.

                
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Post ID: 398158by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:08 AM PST
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I think the main reason is probably since July 10 hasn't arrived yet- that's when all the contracts are finalized I believe. But I could be wrong- we'll see.

                
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Post ID: 398160by ClipSince7thGrade » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:13 AM PST
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Could have but didn't, I'm sure his love for basketball excedes his love for the Clippers. Maybe he's upset, maybe he's not and we're just misreading or reading too deeply into things. One things forsure though, he's under contract for the Clippers as of now and will be putting his all into what he loves which is basketball not the Clippers per-say. It's really unfortunate because Crawford has been making it seem like he's loving clipper nation and for him to be reacting the way he is to these questions is bringing up my own questions of his character

                
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Post ID: 398161by Shinob » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:23 AM PST
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think you guys are reading too much into his comments. he's just straight out answering fans questions. pretty sure it's no biggie.

                
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Post ID: 398162by Amnesty_David_Stern » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:24 AM PST
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I think Crawford will have the role Jason Terry did, a backup combo guard who can bring in scoring and speed. Granted the Jet is a bit slower now, but you get the idea.

Whether it's Redick or Crawford starting I am fine. I am just happy ou starting SG isn't going to be Billups or Green.

                
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Post ID: 398164by ClipSince7thGrade » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:29 AM PST
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You know what...agreed

                
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Post ID: 398166by Shinob » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:32 AM PST
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also, the championship answer...where he said i don't know.... he's just being humble. shouldn't be alarming. i'm not worried.

                
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Post ID: 398167by Heediot » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:57 AM PST
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Trade him. Volume scoring chucker that disappears come playoff time.

                
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Post ID: 398192by CLIPSET » Jul 06, 2013 - 09:39 AM PST
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Maybe he saw the signings of Green and Barnes as a threat to his minutes as a backup. Dudley may get minutes at the 2, now that they have Barnes, who will most likely be the starter. Another thing to keep in mind is that the next two years of his contract are non-guaranteed. I wouldn't mind him starting though.

                
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Post ID: 398193by marten81 » Jul 06, 2013 - 09:45 AM PST
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offc he needs to aim for that.. that question where he says he doesn't know if we win a championship worries me more.. and he didn't disapear come playoff time, he disapears against tony allen.

                
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Post ID: 398194by clipperboy24 » Jul 06, 2013 - 09:47 AM PST
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Ship him out. We don't want a mo Williams baron Davis attitude going on. Also if he wants to be a starter he has to learn to play a little thing called defense

                
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Post ID: 398195by MartyKahn » Jul 06, 2013 - 09:48 AM PST
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I still don't like Crawford's gm as far as winning a championship, I want Redick to start. Screw what Jamal thinks. He well compensated.

                
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Post ID: 398200by Voyeur » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:13 AM PST
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No hell no! I just got finished defending Crawford in another thread, but no way would I want him to start. He talked about how he enjoyed the freedom Vinny gave him as a Clipper. That's because coming of the bench, he is basically THE MAN. His game is not conducive as a starter. JJ's style ABSOLUTELY is. We needed a guy in the starting lineup who can nail spot up jumpers and score off screens and keep the offense running by moving without the ball. Not a guy who shoots in rhythm with one on one plays while everybody else is standing around. JJ was 3rd among SG's last year in assist to turnover ratio...Crawford will dribble the ball off his foot by dancing around too much. Again, that's fine moments off the bench. Not early on as a starter.

                
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Post ID: 398202by Voyeur » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:24 AM PST
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It's a pretty selfish move too. How do you go from loving the freedom you have with the Clippers and having the "most fun" you've had "since high school"...to now talking about being a starter?

I don't want to speculate here, but does he look at Redick and think he's not as worthy to start as, say, Willie or something?

And, yeah, if Crawford continues to act this way, I'd be perfectly happy to get NY back. At least he can guard the perimeter.

                
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Post ID: 398206by Akclipps » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:38 AM PST
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That was just a random question that he answered via twitter... He's not demanding it. Who wouldn't want to start if your a basketball player. U guys actin like he's a demarcus cousin type who whines about eveything

                
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Post ID: 398207by namzug » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:39 AM PST
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Competition should be welcome, I have my doubts that his game could do well against first.stringers. I think he does better when he goes against second squads. I like jamal and think he might be a bit dissapointed in bringing in a player to start rather then trying him, but if he wins the starting spot then good. It might be the money JJ got which could of created jealousy if he views himself as a similar player, he'll get over it.

                
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Post ID: 398208by Voyeur » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:43 AM PST
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Well, Doc hasn't really had a chance to get all these guys together for a proper meeting. Hopefully, everyone will be in a proper frame of mind after that. I'm sure Doc is looking for a starter who can fill the Ray Allen type role. That's certainly Redick's style.

                
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Post ID: 398213by Clippersfan86 » Jul 06, 2013 - 10:54 AM PST
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Uh what happened to him? Just last year he was mentioning championships. Also he said he's completely okay with a 6th man role. Redick is far more consistent and Crawford is best suited as a 6th man. Doc needs to have a talk with J Cross. It's probably just a misunderstanding. Even this summer he's talked about loving the Clippers and never wanting to leave.

                
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Post ID: 398222by CapsNClips » Jul 06, 2013 - 11:11 AM PST
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If our biggest problem this year is that our best bench player would rather be a starter then we are going to have a pretty smooth year.

                
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Post ID: 398225by Akclipps » Jul 06, 2013 - 11:27 AM PST
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Man u guys r freakin out over this n over reacting.. Jamal crawford its not demanding to be a starter. He just answered a fan via twitter. All basketball player in the world want to start n that is a given. But he is not complaining about coming off the bench.

                
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Post ID: 398226by Agent0 » Jul 06, 2013 - 11:28 AM PST
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He should have said "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4."

I think Redick's off ball movement and use of screens fits better with Paul and Blake than Jamal's skills. Celtics guys worked well because 1) they were all willing passers 2) Ray Allen played off the ball a lot, KG was the post up option and pick/pop/roll guy and Pierce would play as both a spot up guy and shot creator.

The Celtics group and the Lakers with Gasol were two times stars came together and right from the start an said they would fit because of the players games.

                
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Post ID: 398231by FightOnRon » Jul 06, 2013 - 11:55 AM PST
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See,Twitter is destroying America and people's minds. Jamal will be just fine and probably win 6th man of the year this season. And he didn't give the Faker answer of,we will win all 5 rings between now and then.

                
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Post ID: 398235by ShhIAintLyin » Jul 06, 2013 - 12:47 PM PST
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You guys are taking his response the wrong way...

                
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Post ID: 398237by david » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:11 PM PST
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Like others have said, Jamal is *not* demanding to be a starter. He has simply said he would like the chance to be the starter. I'm pretty sure that if Doc Rivers said, "Jamal, I need you coming off the bench", Jamal wouldn't complain one bit.

Jamal was a huge part of the Clipper regular season success last season and we know how good he is. He may mesh very well with the rest of the starters. If I'm not mistaken, he scored the most 4th quarter points of any Clipper last season, and a lot of time it was playing with the starters. So it might be something to try in training camp- starting Redick, then start Crawford, and see how the synergy is like.

                
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Post ID: 398238by Clippers_FTW » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:13 PM PST
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wow... how quickly fans turn on players...

                
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Post ID: 398241by smittywerb » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:34 PM PST
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Nope, Crawford doesn't have the defense to be the starter we need in this team. Love the guy, but no Jamal.

                
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Post ID: 398242by ClippersRise » Jul 06, 2013 - 01:55 PM PST
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"@JCrossover: Always interesting to see how front office people determine value of players in the nba. Good/ bad.."

Posted a while after Matt Barns was confirmed to re-sign. Maybe its just a coincidence tho

                
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Post ID: 398247by FightOnRon » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:45 PM PST
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Guys,just stay away from Twitter for a day,things are as good as they have ever been right now.

                
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Post ID: 398252by realbull17 » Jul 06, 2013 - 02:57 PM PST
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i like him coming off the bench.

                
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Post ID: 398271by Agent0 » Jul 06, 2013 - 03:43 PM PST
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yup, no need to hate on him, too much psychoanalysis

                
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Post ID: 398509by Grillinnap » Jul 07, 2013 - 01:48 AM PST
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He just tweeted, "Decisions, decisions." WTF is up with this guy?

                
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Post ID: 398510by ClippersDA » Jul 07, 2013 - 01:52 AM PST
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He is annoying - I'm in favor of moving him to help us get a good big. I don't want anyone here who is a malcontent and headcase.

Maybe it's an innocent tweet, but he has some value and I'm cool with sending him elsewhere to get what we really need. He would be horrible in the starting lineup.

                
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Post ID: 398530by LuvMeSumMEE » Jul 07, 2013 - 03:28 AM PST
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He's probably just trippin' out cause JJ Redick's gonna come waltz in and probably start over him. Everyone knows the JCross has his defensive shortcomings, but in his mind he's probably thinking.......I've broken JJ's ankles a bunch of times........why has he just come in and moved ahead of me? Right or wrong......good, bad, or indifferent......he's probably pissed. Either that, or people are just reading a bunch of nonsense into this.......which is what it probably is...

If he becomes problematic, then trade this dude for Amir Johnson at the upcoming trade deadline or even now if the Raptors will do it. There's your new Odom. Move Willie Green into the backup 2. Bring back Hollins.

                
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Post ID: 398532by botev1921 » Jul 07, 2013 - 03:32 AM PST
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He is valuable to provide bench spark, but I am not sure he realizes we can easily trade him now that we have a whole bunch of guards, who can actually score. The starter should be this guy, who brings the most to the table - both offense and defense!

                
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Post ID: 398534by LuvMeSumMEE » Jul 07, 2013 - 03:40 AM PST
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I agree. Plus, barely any of the NBA's backup wing players can guard Crawford. So, off the bench........he's a matchup nightmare. As a starter, he's a defensive liability...

                
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Post ID: 398578by Jerediscool » Jul 07, 2013 - 12:50 PM PST
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"decisions decisions" could be about what to eat for dinner. Serioulsy, people are taking this whole twitter thing waaaaaay too seriously. Relax brosefs, we still have a full off season before we have actual things to worry about.

                
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Post ID: 398579by ClippersDA » Jul 07, 2013 - 12:55 PM PST
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One mans trash is another mans treasure? There is something going on

                
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Post ID: 398582by Clippers_FTW » Jul 07, 2013 - 01:01 PM PST
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Not everything someone posts on "twitter" has to be basketball related.. decisions, decisions.... could be at the movies, could be at dinner, could be wondering what type of condom to use... don't read too much into it.

                
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