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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404554by Clippersfan86 » Aug 26, 2013 - 02:34 AM PST
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Not ideal due to playstyle but 10/5 last year on good efficiency isn't bad. All he's gotta do for us is play 10-15 mins a game tops and stay healthy.



                
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We should have picked up a player who can rebound and defend

                
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We're lost without a banger.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404557by Icecoldclipper » Aug 26, 2013 - 05:28 AM PST
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This is far from a need if T. Thomas would of took the mini should of had him or any cheap euro or d league big

                
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Post ID: 404559by DeadPoet » Aug 26, 2013 - 06:03 AM PST
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Okay so let's hope he has the "la barnes effect". last chance for his career to do something special.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404560by clipsclaps » Aug 26, 2013 - 08:04 AM PST
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Antawn is 42 points away from 20K.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404571by TheBlakeShow » Aug 26, 2013 - 11:30 AM PST
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Hopefully this becomes like the Barnes signing and be huge for us in the season!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404574by namzug » Aug 26, 2013 - 11:42 AM PST
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I just don't like the fact that Antawn puts us over the cap, because we could bring in a guy like Shavlik and keep Davies in training camp. Antawn handcuffs us in regards to the salary cap it seems. Shavlik, Ivan and I believe Haddadi would all be cheaper options which I prefer.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404575by loyalclipfan » Aug 26, 2013 - 11:45 AM PST
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I don't see what all the excitement is about.we are talking about a third string position, there is no reason to expect any problems with Jameison. Look at it this way, he's gotta be better than what we got out of billups last season, so everyone just relax and chill. We will probably get a better selection after training camps are over with, there shouldn't be a rush to fill up a third roster spot.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404577by namzug » Aug 26, 2013 - 11:55 AM PST
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I know there has been panic, but I'd just hate for better options to get locked playing overseas.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404580by slestack11 » Aug 26, 2013 - 12:42 PM PST
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Jamison was not bad last year offensively when he was in. Dantoni really didn't give him too many opportunities and I expect him to get more and perform better being Blake's backup this season. His individual defense is a problem, but hopefully Doc can fix that from a team perspective.

                
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Post ID: 404582by renshaibob » Aug 26, 2013 - 01:17 PM PST
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That's the big problem, Doc went out and got all non lockdown or even semi lock down defensive type guys, no rebounding bangers. Our entire defensive squad consist of Matt Barns and he is not a lock down defender. I just don't see how your going to make a bunch of non defenders into a defending team i don't care who is the coach.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404584by ClipperDB » Aug 26, 2013 - 01:40 PM PST
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what is happening with baby-shaq from Greece?

                
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Post ID: 404585by BringMcadooBackado » Aug 26, 2013 - 01:50 PM PST
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His rights got moved to Atlanta in the Willie Green trade.

But I doubt they would have brought him in anyway. The front office wasn't really impressed with him at Summer League a few years back.

I'd say Antawn Jamison, Drew Gooden or Ivan Johnson would all be better 3rd stringers than him.

                
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Post ID: 404586by Akclipps » Aug 26, 2013 - 02:07 PM PST
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Clippers still have an interest with drug addict Lamar according to Mark Medina. Maybe that is the reason why they haven't sign Jameson. I'm not a fan of both

                
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Post ID: 404588by BringMcadooBackado » Aug 26, 2013 - 02:28 PM PST
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Mark Medina ‏@MarkG_Medina 2h Clippers still have an interest in resigning Lamar Odom, said league source. But it's currrently unclear if that will happen

I honestly thought that Antawn Jamison was a good pick-up for the Lakers last year. And I don't think that he underperformed. He was just asked to do too much.

And I know that this been brought up before, but let me post it again: Lamar Odom ('12-'13): 4.0 PPG and 5.9 RPG on 40% FG, 20% 3P and 48% FT Antawn Jamison ('12-'13): 9.4 PPG and 4.8 RPG on 46% FG, 36% 3P and 69% FT

And for those of you who think that Antawn Jamison will be the defensive sieve that kills the Clippers come playoff time, I'd like you think back to how much Lamar Odom helped the team against the Grizzlies last year. And that was while he was supposedly "clean."

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404589by TheDude » Aug 26, 2013 - 02:47 PM PST
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It's not like anyone is beating his door down but if I were Antawn, I'd fully explore all other options before signing with the Clips. I mean that's such a disrespect that it came out in the press that we'd rather sign Lamar and want him to wait for us to try to sign plan A before you come along as plan B.

Got to be embarrassing that it took Lamar smoking crack in the park for the past week in order for us to be interested in signing him.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404590by Icecoldclipper » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:09 PM PST
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Save us Brandon Davies. Please impress in camp with good d

                
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Post ID: 404592by Agent0 » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:19 PM PST
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Still need defense during the regular season, and lets say Memphis was a bad matchup for Odom defensively, every team is a bad matchup for Jamison defensively, lol

Honestly it is what it is. It isn't the end of the world, and there will still be a lot of time to sign a defensive big man if this signing goes through. If the team goes in with everyone now + Jamison and the defense isn't up to par in January, they will look to make some kind of move for a proper big.


What did happen to Tyrus Thomas btw?

                
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Post ID: 404593by Agent0 » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:24 PM PST
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Yea, you can make bad defenders below average, and make them overachieve. You can make below average defenders average, average --> above average, etc, but making a bunch of poor defenders good just isn't possible, there are just limitations.

The Celtics for example were night and day defensively last season with/without KG on the court.

Hopefully Blake and DJ are solid, and in the playoffs, you just ride a heavy dose of them.

....or, maybe 7 years later, or however long Hollins has been in the league he surprises us and becomes a good defender/rebounder. Okay, yea, probably not realistic, but there's a minuscule chance, maybe...

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404595by Clippersfan86 » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:32 PM PST
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Link #t=61

Jamison 33 points last year. People have the wrong mindset about this IMO. Griffin and Jordan have the upside and skillset to be a DOMINANT defensive duo. Jordan as a defensive anchor, rim protector and Griffin as a guy who plays great man D and can guard 3-4 positions. We've already seen plenty of signs of this. I'd rather those guys carry a bigger load and develop than depending on a BENCH backup to be your defensive stopper. It's been proven countless times that for a BENCH offense

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404597by ClipperDB » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:33 PM PST
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you mean there's a chance...

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404599by Clippersfan86 » Aug 26, 2013 - 03:35 PM PST
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1750 ... t-of-sense

For being a BR report this is actually decent.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404600by Clippers_FTW » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:05 PM PST
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how close is this to being done>?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404601by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:43 PM PST
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^^^^^ its done

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404602by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:43 PM PST
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@BA_Turner: Clippers coach Doc Rivers will be taking his team to San Diego for training camp. Clips will train on campus of UCSD during 1st week of Oct.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404603by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:44 PM PST
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@BA_Turner: Clippers, Antawn Jamison have agreed to a deal for him to join the team, sources.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404604by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:44 PM PST
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@BA_Turner: Jamison will sign a 1 year deal for vet.@min. $1.4 million.

                
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And now we can all go back to being bored until pre-season.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers for Vet. Minimum Post ID: 404606by david » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:51 PM PST
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Done deal it looks like- welcome to the Clippers Antawn Jamison!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers? Post ID: 404607by CapsNClips » Aug 26, 2013 - 04:52 PM PST
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I'm actually pretty happy with this signing. He can still give teams fits even at his age.

                
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**** this is horrible i'm about to cry only if grant hill would've stayed one more year

                
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Don't like it at all but I trust Doc knows what he's doing.Really would have preferred Ivan Johnson or even Lou Amundson but Jamison is a Clippers now so welcome.Hopefully he can prove me and a lot of other doubters wrong this season.

                
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Ramona Shelburne tweeted that "Clippers also want Jamison to mentor Blake and DJ." I want Jamison as far away from those 2 as possible - I want those 2 to play some defense this year.

                
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Post ID: 404612by DeadPoet » Aug 26, 2013 - 05:27 PM PST
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Jamison 33 points last year. It's been proven countless times that for a BENCH offense

Hm maybe you're right , we had so many stops last year, but without Crawford our bench offense wasn't effective. Perhaps we get also DF with Amundson .

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers for Vet. Minimum Post ID: 404613by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 05:29 PM PST
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I didn't like it a first but now I understand! All of you people saying, we have no post-up players

Antawn Scored MORE points on post-ups than any of our players!

Also for you people saying, "He CANT play defense" Well Doc's Defensive Systems never rely on INDIVIDUAL Defense but on TEAM Defense

So what is that system, exactly? Since the original Big Three-Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen-formed in Boston, the Celtics have employed a strong-side overload defense that forces long, cross-court passes or quick ball rotation. In short, it limits the creativity of a team's primary scorer by discouraging drives and encouraging one-on-one perimeter play. Part of why LeBron James could never get past the Celtics in Cleveland was this defense-second and third scorers are forced to take on a greater creative role, and those other Cavs lacked this capability.

  • Bleacher Report Article "How Doc Rivers' Scheme Will Drastically Improve the Clippers Defense"

So now WE have a guy that can shoots 36% from THREE and can post-up! The Clippers can now attack from 3! Which team can you think of that can put a whole lineup out there that shoots more than 30% from THREE

PG- Chris Paul - 32% SG- JJ Redick - 39% SF- Jared Dudley - 40% PF- Antawn Jamison - 36% C- Byron Mullens - 31%

Antawn Jamison won't be a big part in the rotation! Just will be that Veteran in the Locker Room and can play if needed to! Like Grant Hill was last year(which who should have played a lot more last season IMO)! I didn't like the signing at first but I do understand it! I believe Doc knows what is best! I am really excited about the Depth of this team! I do agree with the person who said we shouldn't rely on the Bench in the Playoffs and Blake and Deandre should be able to Start And CLOSE games! What is the point of being a STARTER and YOU CANT CLOSE! I believe Blake and Deandre will improve A WHOLE LOT!!

Depth Chart: Head Coach: Doc Rivers Associate Coach: Alvin Gentry

PG- Chris Paul / Darren Collison / Maalik Wayns SG- JJ Redick / Jamal Crawford / Willie Green SF- Jared Dudley / Matt Barnes / Reggie Bullock PF- Blake Griffin / Byron Mullens / Antawn Jamison C- Deandre Jordan / Ryan Hollins /

I AM EXCITED!!!!

                
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Well, not the best option we wanted, but we had to do something. They're lucky Jamison was willing to wait so long to sign. We could've been left with nothing. We still need a player who can shut down. Maybe around the Trade Deadline?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers for Vet. Minimum Post ID: 404615by itsLuigi » Aug 26, 2013 - 05:39 PM PST
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has davies been given a contract? is he a for sure thing? can we still pick up someone else?

                
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Well at least we know who's on our team finally. I liked other guys better but it could be worse.

Since we won't be going with hockey rotations anymore I can see Jamison being valuable in certain situations. If he's out there with DJ or Hollins, we could actually be more productive overall than last year with Lamar. As long as those two guys can control the paint, we should be able to hide AJ on defense. The other side of the court, he will be a huge improvement over Lamar. Especially the crackhead edition.

So we start CP, Reddick, Duds, Blake, DJ

6th man Jamal 7th man Barnes 8th man Mullens 9th man Collison 10th man Jamison

End of the bench is Bullock and Hollins

So our starting SG from last year, a solid player on both sides of the ball, very well may not get a uniform on opening day. That is quite a testament to the moves made by the FO these past couple months.

I know it probably won't happen but I really wish we'd dump Wayns and Davies and sign two more vets. Neither of these guys are ever going to contribute on a team with superstars ahead of them. Go get Delonte and Gooden and stack this roster 15 deep!

                
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It's obviously a non-guaranteed deal, otherwise they would have made an official team announcement after he was signed. It's just a camp invite but the way they're acting the past month, it seems like they want him on the roster. I just did not see it in SL. Samuels was a bad ass, looked like the banger we could use but Davies was invisible much of the time. Maybe he's a world beater in practice, I'd just be surprised if he ever sees the court for this team.

If you're a borderline NBA talent, you'd think the last place you'd want to go is the team that sends the starter at your position to the all-star game. There's only one starter for each conference, choose one of the other 14 teams. But that's just me.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Antawn Jamison to the Clippers for Vet. Minimum Post ID: 404619by ClipperKyle32 » Aug 26, 2013 - 06:18 PM PST
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I do not believe the Clippers signed Brandon Davies! That Leaves One Roster Spot! It should remain that way until Training Camp! Hopefully we sign another Gem like Matt Barnes! One of those late but GREAT signings!

That is what our Depth Chart looks like now with the acquisition of Antawn Jamison!

But on other news ESPN Reported this

@ArashMarkazi: Lamar Odom is in a Los Angeles hotel where friends are trying to get him help for an unspecified drug problem.

So Lamar is on Drugs! Lamar's personal struggles with his marriage and his alleged drug use are reportedly taking a toll on his future with the NBA. The Los Angeles Lakers and the Los Angeles Clippers have both stepped away from signing the big man due to his personal demons

                
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Not really too excited about this signing because I just don't think he's a good fit for the team. I'm not sure who's still available but I would have preferred a back up big who is physical, plays solid D and rebounds. Jamison can still be a productive offensive player but his offense isn't really needed because there is plenty of offense coming from the 2nd unit already. A lot will ride on Blake's shoulders this season because if he were to go down for an extended period of time, the front court will be relatively weak unless DJ improves big time. Jamison isn't your prototypical big man so I'm not really sure how he can mentor Blake and DJ.

                
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Davies was a partially guaranteed deal, but I'm guessing that only runs through a short time probably training camp. I think Jamison ties us up salary cap wise, unless they see someone they are really ready to pay penalties for. They might bring a few guys to training camp, but don't see anything really happening outside of who is on the roster now, unless a trade happens at a later time.

                
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Meh... Better than a crackhead, I guess.

                
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I hope we just go small

Collision Crawford Bullock Barnes Hollins

                
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I think Antwan will be fine and a welcomed addition. He has a awkward shot that catches everyone by surprise. He is a excellent rebounder. I am happy with this signing. I wanted Lamar but Antwan was my seconded choice. DJ will be a giant next year. Vinny is gone And the Doctor is here to fix the lack of coaching. All the players will be at least 40% better just because of the coaching change.

                
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We're getting spoiled & picky... If someone showed us this roster & coaching staff last season we'd be hyped. Antwan will be a great roll player.

                
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Post ID: 404627by BringKamanBack » Aug 26, 2013 - 07:01 PM PST
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DAMN, i graduated UCSD 2 years too early!

oh well, at least i was there when lebron worked out Very Happy

                
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I'd still offer that Randolph kid from BOS a spot and cut Davies or something. I also liked Samario Samuels a lot...

                
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I am ok with Jamison but I hope we can get a big that can bang later in the season. We can waive Wayns.

                
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