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Should Clippers Gamble On Michael Beasley?
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ClipperKyle32
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Bleacher Reports Says The Clippers Are One Of The Teams That Should Gamble on Michael Beasley's NBA Future. Consider this suggestion a vote of confidence for Doc Rivers' skills in player relations. The Los Angeles Clippers'....

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How is Beasley defensively? would this guy be the "banger" or "defensive stopper" we need? I ask because I haven't seenmuch of him

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If he would sign for the league minimum, then yes.

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No, he's more of a ball-stopping offensive guy

Clippersfan86
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Hell yes he's worth a shot. Problem is we should have taken him over Jamison. The both of them are repetitive. I have zero doubt Doc+CP3+Blake could reign in pretty much ANYBODY. Beasley is a threat for 20/10 every time he steps out on the floor. He's not quite as awful as Jamison defensively but WAY more potent offensively and is young.

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Above average rebounder, average shooter, turn over prone with below average BBIQ for a SF and trouble on and off the court....no thanks.

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this dude is a headcase and on drugs. i pass.

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PLEASE NO!

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i think we should gamble on beasley. he's a good rebounder, can shoot the 3 occasionally, a good midrange shooter, and is still young. worst case, we cut him midseason.

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Well keeping with Clipper tradition is this not a mute point (and no vote for me). Do we not have 14 on the roster. that has been where we always stop.

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Dudley is basically the same skill set without the ball-hoggery or the attitude. Let somebody else deal with this headache.

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So now every player that becomes available is coming here no matter how many people we have on his position or how bad the fit is. Where exactly are we going to fit this guy and having so many guaranteed contracts, how stupid you have to be to even suggest we commit to this guy?

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If I remember didn't Gentry say Beasley was uncoachable? If not some PHX coach did.

Frogs will fart fire before we get him

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The Suns gave him the starting job at SF and a 3 year/18 mill deal.If he was serious about his career he would have taken full advantage of the opportunity the Suns gave him but instead blew it just like he did everywhere else he played and was moved to the benched after only a couple of games.

The problem with Beasley is that he is too slow for SF and not strong enough for PF.He doesn't play defense and chucks up bad shots.He has a horrible attitude and doesn't listen too his coaches.The only thing he does well is score but he isn't consistent there either.I would defiantly pass on Beasley,not worth the risk in my opinion.

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No, not at all. Waste of a roster spot. The guy is a net negative, he actually hurts your team. And no, Paul and the locker room and Doc won't magically make him a good or useful player.

...and sucky defense and extreme inefficiency lol

The ability to score, no matter how ineffective the scoring actually is always has a way of attracting people. It is mainly because we get that whomever scores more points wins, so for some reason some people will equate that to the idea that an individual player scoring a lot of points being beneficial; no matter how the points come.

It's sort of lost that team scoring is the goal, and if an individual scores a lot of points much less effectively than the rest of the team he's actually hurting you!

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I hope the Lakers take him.

Agent0
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^Please, please

Not quite as awful defensively, just more awful lol

He had an 87 Ortg last season, took 10.2 FGA to score 10.1 PPG, averaged 3.3 TOV/36. Can't remember the last time he grabbed 10 rebounds. Over his career he has a 98 Ortg...Jamison 109.

Jamison had a 110 Ortg last season. His career low after his 100 during his first two seasons when he couldn't shoot FT's is 103. At his worst he's 5 pts/100 better offensively than Beasley was on average the last two seasons.

I really don't know how a player like Beasley continues to trick people into thinking he's good or useful. I suppose it is the nature of "having the ability to explode once every 10 games". That one good game makes people forget the other 9 games where he just wasted a ton of possessions and his counter-part beat up on him.

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This guy has issues, perhaps a good or great team will come calling. Not sure if we are the team tho. Only way I'd go after him is if his contract isn't guaranteed at all. Beasley was super talented and just flopped in the NBA. He had multiple chances to really turn his career around and kept screwing up.

I honestly can't say much about Beasley in the positive sense, and I don't want us to take a chance on him.

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I think NBA wise his talent was overrated. He's a tweener who doesn't have elite athletic ability or size, and has low IQ. His shooting stroke is nice, but I think we all got tricked.

He's a guy who in order to be a solid NBA player had to hit the gym HARD, but seemingly tried to survive on his talent which just wasn't good enough.

He still tries to play like a focal player, he just doesn't have the ability or IQ for that, and he hasn't shown any interest in transforming himself into a role player.

A 6th man stretch 4 who can also play some 3 and goes hard on defense and on the glass.

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I SAY HYFR!!!!!! I've been wanting Beasley forever!

Clippers_FTW
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didnt he murder us a couple years back? could not miss a shot.. i'd love that player

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If we're gonna sign a druggie might as well sign a fit druggie

ClipperKyle32
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If they do... Do We Get Amundson?

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If he understands that playing time will be rare, he'd basically be 3rd unit/emergency/line-up flexibility... if he wants to play for a winner & a coach like Doc to fix his image. I'll take him... cut him at the 1st sign of trouble... I'd be pretty upset if OKC got him, I want their bench to be as-is, no big scoring threats.

clips4life32
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I would pass on Beasley. He's not a big need for us at the 3. I would rather give Bullock those minutes if they become available. I would prefer to sign a PF/C.

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They won't. when ownership let go of Martin they proved they didn't want to make that extra step and stay competitive...that organization fears the salary cap, they're in the game to be competitive but not willing to go over the line that needs to be crossed. In my opinion our true threat is GSW

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I'd be pretty happy if they got him. I don't think people are really grasping that fact the Beasley has been a bad NBA player. If he goes to OKC, get's solid minutes and plays like he did last season, and like he has defensively his whole career, that is GREAT for the Clippers if we match up with them.

Maybe he'll have 1 good game out of 7 in a 7 game series, and that game could end up being a net zero because he gives up all he gets too, but the others he'll be like -6 on the court each time.

He was -7.1 for the Suns last season, the offense was better without him, and the defense was much better without him.

hoopfanjd31
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In a word, no. In 4 words hell-to-the-no.

bballman
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I say no to Beasley. Let the Lakers have him.

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I don't know why so many of you are against this. his upside is a lot higher than his down. he can contribute off the bench and is another body to throw at z-bo and gasol. maybe the bright lights and LA could be good for him.he obviously needs to still restore his image, and if he does act up you know doc and cp3 would not put up with his bs. you could sign him to a non-guaranteed. if it works out, it works out. if it does't, you cut him. we're already a good team.

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Probably not since I would rather see reggie bullock get playing time

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We already have 3 small forwards, and he is too small to play power forward.

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Is this saying we should go for him or that we have interest?

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I can see why someone might want Beasley over Jamison...but for leadership purposes, as someone who can be a positive influence on the young guys, I'm fine with Jamison. I'm just not sure who else we can get who would actually receive playing time.

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I don't see why we would add him, maybe if we didn't have a big scorer. Once we got Jamison, any possible need to get him went out the window. I'm happier with Jamison over Beasley and would take Amundson over him too.

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^ I agree about Amundson. I kinda forgot about him. I wouldn't be dissatisfied at all if he was our final pickup.

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The upside of Beasley is a bit interesting. He doesn't seem to work as hard as he needs to, and he doesn't seem to have interest in changing his approach to the game.

Defensively, of course we already know, too slow for SF's, doesn't really know how to guard PF's, or how to play defense. Good rebounder for a SF, poor for a PF. I think too many people think he currently has a skill-set of play style that with the right environment would be successful, but the problem I'm not sure if that is true.

If you stick him at SF - main attack is long mid-range jumpers. He can't blow by guys or use his handles to consistently get to the basket, not good posting up, doesn't shoot enough 3PT shots to make him efficient, isn't really good on the break, turns it over a lot. Potential offensively would show up in --> becoming an elite shooter, developing a face-up mid-post game that consistently gets him close to the basket, better decision making and less turnovers (some of those things should be there at almost 25 with 5 years NBA experience, NONE are)

If there's a coach that knows how to get the best out of players on offense, it is Adelman. Beasley got the reigns as a Timberwolf. Adelman got 21.9 pts / 6.1 rebs / 1.8 ast / 2.7 tov / .534 TS% / 104 Ortg from him in the first 34 games on the 2010-2011 season.

Yea, I know, 34 games isn't the whole picture, he ended the season 19.2 / 5.6 / 2.2 / 2.7 / .510 / 100 Ortg

So what you see is that Beasley can produce, on the surface, fairly nice looking numbers as a focal guy, but not efficient or effective numbers. That means you don't really want him to be your focal guy cause your offense will be bad.

So you say, well he shouldn't be a focal guy, maybe he can play off someone else and be more effective, let's make him a complimentary guy. I think his problem is that he hasn't really grasped how to be an effective complimentary piece. So he plays the same way in a complimentary role, which again just isn't good. So when he now becomes a complimentary guy, less talented players who are better in specific roles and are efficient players become much more valuable and useful than a guy like him (low TS%, high turnover, poor defense).

eg: Jared Dudley is a better player than Beasley despite being less talented. Beasley can be a #1 option, but he won't be good at it. Dudley can't, but Dudley is a far superior #4 option / complimentary player.

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I think we already are good at the 3 and to put a lazy player at the 4 off the bench is not something I would really like. We tried this with Lamar, and though he improved throughout the season, his problem was his conditioning not lack of effort on the court. Beasley seems to think he is like Kobe, but refuses to take any other role than something like that. His attitude reminds me of Baron, where some games he plays out of this world, but most he just goes through the motions. If he put the effort he could be a quality player in the league, but we just need to fill a potential role player spot off the bench. I would much rather do this with someone I know is going to bring energy to the game, and not come into the game with an attitude because he thinks he should be starting over Dudley or Barnes or even worse Blake.

I mentioned Amundson, but I would also be really interested in bringing in a guy like Shavlik Randolph. He played for Doc before, and I've heard nothing other than he brings energy to the court. He seems to have been a fan favorite with Celtics, and I would rather go with a guy like this off the bench over a guy who thinks more of himself than what he actually is. Check out what the link below to for a read on Shavlik:

http://www.celticsblog.com/2013/8/1/457 ... 014-season

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The OP's question is a misnomer. With Beasley, there is no risk. You know exactly what you are going to get. A bottom 15 shooter (by TS%) who is one of the most prolific shooters in the NBA, an offensive "creator" who is either too dumb or too lazy to run his coach's plays, set screens, or move without the ball, and an equally incompetent team defensive player. He is a cancer on the court. He is a below average passer, has a high turnover rate, and doesn't get to the line enough, where he is a little below average. All this guy does is take shots away from better shooters, collapse offensive sets, and waste the hard work of teamates on defense.

He can smoke all the dope he wants, I don't care. But keep him far, far away from my team's practice court.

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but.... what if?

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So you're sitting on the fence then Wink

I agree, keep him well away.

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No. Keep that bum as far as way as possible.

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No we do not need him. Plus, if we do get him, his minutes will be taken away from Bullocks', who is a better defender and a catch and shoot 3, not a ball stopper (people here did not like Caron for same reason)

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He'd give us some nice toughness and more depth but I think he'd be too much of a liability. I don't see him being able to keep his attitude in check while on the floor and late in games I can see him really costing us. At first glance I'd sign off on it but with a little bit of thought its just a pass over

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I don't think Beasley was ever known for given toughness, but I will admit that he will give greater entertainment value to the team just because you're always wanting to know what Beasley will do next.

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Beasley and Barnes on the court at the same time? No one would touch Blake lol

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Is there another Beasley? He's a head case not a tough guy.

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Miami is looking at him. thank god! stay away from my clips. Very Happy

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Lol don't worry he's not likely to be a Clipper.

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