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Post Subject: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405374by youngrondo22 » Sep 11, 2013 - 01:32 AM PST
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He looks huge on TV!

To those who attend games or have seen him up close in person is he really that big? I read somewhere he played last season(2012-13) at 205 lbs.....

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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe(I Know He Post ID: 405375by Clippersfan86 » Sep 11, 2013 - 01:33 AM PST
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Yea he's up to 205. Gained 10 pounds lost summer and yes he's freaking huge for his height. He's got the biggest upper body of any PG in the NBA including Rose, Westbrook, Robinson. One time I saw him standing next to BG and they had the same sized arms it looked like.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405377by Silasie » Sep 11, 2013 - 06:21 AM PST
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Is he bigger than Nate? Nate is a square lol

                
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Post ID: 405381by pageC4 » Sep 11, 2013 - 09:48 AM PST
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Yeah he is. Its funny you should mention Nate Robinson. I think Bledsoe is cut from a very similar cloth. Solid defense, high energy, but can't do one thing particularly well. Bledsoe, as much as I love him, seems like another version of Nate, and he will likely find a career as a 6th man.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405382by LetsGoClipShow1 » Sep 11, 2013 - 09:53 AM PST
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Bled is a beast. It looks like he's forged a bond with LeBron based off of an Instagram picture that was posted on both Bled and LBJ's accounts. He's a decent mentor when it comes to building a monster body...

                
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Post ID: 405384by Silasie » Sep 11, 2013 - 10:15 AM PST
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I reckon you're right. Like Nate he is a athletic freak but I wonder if he is really cut out to run a team. 6th man could well be his future.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405386by Agent0 » Sep 11, 2013 - 10:17 AM PST
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Nate has defensive issues though, that's one of the main limiting factors in him starting. Bledsoe on the other hand has defense as a strength.

                
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Post ID: 405387by pageC4 » Sep 11, 2013 - 10:43 AM PST
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Of course. I'm sure our second unit will drop down in defensive efficiency with him gone, but I see a lot of flaws with Bledsoe that make me wonder if he will be a good starter. Oh well, I guess we will all know by the end of this season

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405390by cleepers » Sep 11, 2013 - 11:59 AM PST
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A lot of Bled's defensive game is predicated on his superhuman energy levels. Bulking up even more will only hurt his game. All that muscle has to be fueled somehow.

I still don't see how he will have the stamina to play "his" style for 32-36mpg, and the other facets of his game - shooting, passing, BBIQ/turnovers - are average at best.

In short, as much as I love the guy I think the F.O. unloaded him at the peak of his value, for much a needed piece... and to a team that is no threat to us at all. Great move!

                
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Post ID: 405391by youngrondo22 » Sep 11, 2013 - 12:17 PM PST
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Do you think the 10 pounds will slow him down? That Is a lot of weight for a small guard to carry, and who's game is at this point based off all athleticism.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405392by Clippersfan86 » Sep 11, 2013 - 12:46 PM PST
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Eh Lebron slowed down when he went from 240-260 but he's still a freak. Bledsoe might be a step slower but also stronger, more explosive.

                
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Post ID: 405393by Silasie » Sep 11, 2013 - 12:54 PM PST
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Agreed.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405394by FightOnRon » Sep 11, 2013 - 01:43 PM PST
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Some bodies are built for it,but I think EBled went to large,he will drop it fast when he sees it hinders him. This isn't the NFL.

                
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Post ID: 405397by clipperboy24 » Sep 11, 2013 - 01:58 PM PST
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The only thing is Nate sucks at defense. I think bled is going to be a great starting pg. he has really good court version even though he does get a little out of control

                
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Post ID: 405398by pageC4 » Sep 11, 2013 - 02:20 PM PST
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My sentiment exactly

                
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Post ID: 405399by Keatonsays » Sep 11, 2013 - 02:23 PM PST
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I'm sure those 2 years of experience playing with Chris Paul will come in handy once he becomes a starter. His ability to control pace will determine whether he finds a spot as a legit starter, or gets no further than being a 6th man.

In other words, it's not a physical challenge he must overcome or improve upon, but a mental one.

                
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Post ID: 405400by pageC4 » Sep 11, 2013 - 02:29 PM PST
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Hm, some interesting points. It may just be my observations but I would say Bledsoe relies on his speed, athleticism, and strength to make amazing defensive stops, drives to the rim, and other team contributions. He may have had good court vision, but it would always be in vain since his passes were erratic and often done when he was blitzing to the paint at deer like speed. I compare that to Chris Paul, who may use his speed at times but slows the tempo down at the right time to make a clean, crisp pass. I think that is what makes me wonder if Bledsoe has what it takes to be a starting PG. Because on our bench he could kind of sacrifice playing fundamental and take gambles on blocks, steals, and blitzing layups.

                
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Post ID: 405402by Agent0 » Sep 11, 2013 - 03:27 PM PST
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He has to continue improving his game to be a "good" starter. I think at the level he played last season he's certainly an above average starter.

As of right now, he's probably best in a backcourt where he isn't the sole playmaker, which of course will be the situation in Phoenix playing next to Dragic.

Other situations, it's hard to tell how he would fare as a long time starter, but I guess at the least teams know he will play defense, push the tempo and bring energy.


Like you mentioned in your other post, Bledsoe still needs to work on gears. Can't always go all out, need to be able to play at different speeds. He is aware of that need, but it's easier to know about it than to change it. He's the kind of guy that sees an opening to the rim and is always thinking "I can beat that guy to the spot".

                
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Post ID: 405403by hoopfanjd31 » Sep 11, 2013 - 03:52 PM PST
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Speaking of the NFL, I wonder if Bledsoe ever played football. He looks like he should be playing strong safety somewhere.

                
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Post ID: 405404by youngrondo22 » Sep 11, 2013 - 04:10 PM PST
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My point exactly, as I said Bledsoe is a special talent no question but he is solely in the NBA mostly because of his athleticism. He kind of reminds me of former Clipper Mike Taylor, super athletic not much skill, even tho Bledsoe has proven to be a bit better.

My concern with Bledsoe now is I think he thinks he can just out muscle people and out run people.and him putting on another 10 pounds for some reason just tells me he's still thinking physically when he should be thinking mentally.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405405by Agent0 » Sep 11, 2013 - 04:18 PM PST
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I think skill does get overlooked when you are athletic. He does have good anticipation defensively, good awareness, and offensively he plays angles well when he's attacking defenders. But you are correct that his main NBA level skill is elite athletic ability (which plays out into excellent guard rebounder, defender and at getting to the rim). He has other skills that are good, but they aren't necessary NBA level good.

                
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Post ID: 405406by youngrondo22 » Sep 11, 2013 - 04:45 PM PST
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Correct.

Physical there are maybe four guys who are just as gifted as Bledsoe in the NBA( Rose, Westbrook, Lebron and Nate Robinson) Bledsoe has to understand coming into the NBA at 195 he was already one of the most athletic players from day one, HE HAS the PHYSICAL part of the game by a mile. An extra 10 pounds isn't going to make you think the game better, it just tells me he's thinking out quick, out muscle the guy and that won't work all the time.

What will happen when Bledsoe nears 30 years old and he starts slowing down? He won't be an superior athlete forever.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405410by Agent0 » Sep 11, 2013 - 08:05 PM PST
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Well he does work on the other areas of his game, so getting the muscle in itself isn't necessarily bad. If he can get all the physical advantages he can and still work on his other skills and mental game, no harm there. He's certainly improved as a shooter since coming to the NBA, he's just not gotten himself to transition from a set shooter to a jumpshooter.

His decision making has also improved as evidence by his decreased turnover rate this past season, and you could see some elements of Paul's game that he picked up in terms of how he runs the pick and roll.

Still, tightening up his handle, getting better at managing the pace he plays at (not always 100 MPH) and continuing to improve his shooting will help him be more effective.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405416by youngrondo22 » Sep 11, 2013 - 09:24 PM PST
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No the 10 pounds isn't a bad thing if he can prove he can think the game, I just think at this point he is still thinking all physical aspect and not enough mentally.

I love EB. But its no secret his IQ is low and 95% of the reason he's in the NBA is because he is a big big time athlete.

                
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Post ID: 405436by clipperboy24 » Sep 12, 2013 - 09:32 AM PST
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Isn't that what defense is? Hardwork and athleticism.

Also he showed he can lead well as a pg for us. I think he is going to surprise a lot of people on here.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405449by Agent0 » Sep 12, 2013 - 05:45 PM PST
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Hardwork and defensive IQ is more important than athletic ability. Athletic ability can help if the other elements are there, and can make a low IQ guy better than his actual defensive understanding, but I think we all know that being athletic and being a good defender do not go hand in hand.

Bledsoe is a hardworking and pretty good IQ defensive player.

A hardworking and athletic but very low IQ guy will probably be a bad defender since he won't be at the right spots, will be blowing schemes and rotations, and will do things like fall for fakes he shouldn't. He just won't be able to make up for enough of it with athletic ability and hustle.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405454by realbull17 » Sep 12, 2013 - 07:24 PM PST
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i just saw a current pic of him. i guess he wants to look like THE ROCK. lol. Very Happy

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405480by namzug » Sep 13, 2013 - 09:50 AM PST
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Bledsoe and Reggie Evans are two of the bigger NBA players I've seen in a long time. I saw Bledsoe up close and he looked more like a Linebacker than a PG to me.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405515by youngrondo22 » Sep 14, 2013 - 06:06 AM PST
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I've heard Bledsoe looks so big that he looks fat lol we all know he isn't but that is what I heard from some who seen him up close

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405534by Markojaric » Sep 14, 2013 - 09:35 PM PST
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He would be a perfect fit in a team who could use him as a second ball handler (ie: Miami, Houston, the Lakers?) and that could benefit more from his defense in spite of some offensive limitations.

                
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Post ID: 405541by AbbaGav » Sep 15, 2013 - 05:55 AM PST
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Or pair him with an oversized point.

                
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Post ID: 405547by CP3Heliflopter » Sep 15, 2013 - 02:12 PM PST
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Eh. Those are some very bizarre examples. Miami has Lebron and Wade. They need shooters. Houston has Harden and Lin. The Lakers have Kobe, Nash and even Pau Gasol.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405548by marten81 » Sep 15, 2013 - 02:14 PM PST
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anyone got a pic from him after summer? can't find it

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405593by wavyballer42 » Sep 16, 2013 - 07:34 PM PST
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I can't post links yet but I googled Eric Bledsoe Suns Jersey & found a picture of him in the sleeved Suns jersey... Bled is bigger for sure.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Got Bigger? Post ID: 405596by Markojaric » Sep 16, 2013 - 07:46 PM PST
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Sorry if i wasnt clear. I said those 3 teams because LBJ, Harden and Kobe (not point guards) are the primary ball handlers (Lin is more like a 50 50, and yes, lakers have Nash now, but he is playing more off ball now) and not the point guards. He is a great defensive minded PG, so where he wouldnt have intense ball handling duties he could excel and be a nightmare for opposing guards. His shooting has improved too, so he could be used occasionally as a spot up shooter, has decent ball handling skills and is a very good slasher.

                
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Post ID: 405598by what_up_clipnation83 » Sep 16, 2013 - 08:02 PM PST
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Sounds like a DJ description

                
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Post ID: 405662by clipperboy24 » Sep 18, 2013 - 01:23 PM PST
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Haha true but he really doesn't seem that hardworking

                
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