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Post Subject: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408572by uncool » Oct 23, 2013 - 06:05 PM PST
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408577by FightOnRon » Oct 23, 2013 - 06:47 PM PST
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Los Angeles Clippers 7-footer Byron Mullens is entering his fifth NBA season after spending his first two in Oklahoma City and the last two in Charlotte, and the 3-pointer looks like it will be an even bigger part of his game.

Mullens didn't attempt a single 3-point shot while with the Thunder, but in 2011-12 he went 12-51 (23.5 percent) from long range and last year he took it a step further, going 66-208 (31.7 percent). It remains to be seen if the 24-year-old center will have the same green light in L.A. that he had with the lottery-bound Bobcats each of the last two seasons, but if preseason is any indication he just might.

Mullens is second in the league with 7.2 3-pointers attempted per game, despite averaging only 21.8 minutes in the Clippers' six exhibition games thus far. Looking ahead, even if Mullens plays in only 70 games in the regular season and averages 5.0 3-point attempts per game, that'd still give him 350 for the season, shattering the career-high (208) he set last year. However, if Mullens doesn't improve on his efficiency from behind the arc, his minutes could decrease. He is shooting 30.2 percent in the preseason so far, and the Clips have a plethora of other bench players who are more than capable of shooting the 3 more efficiently (Jamal Crawford, Antawn Jamison, Matt Barnes, Darren Collison and even rookie Reggie Bullock).

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408796by Icecoldclipper » Oct 24, 2013 - 04:29 PM PST
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Still not getting why he is not told to be used as a roller going to the basket more often. Mullens has has strong athletic skills he should be looking for lobs and putbacks like Hollins. I understand the original need was floor spacing but if his shot is not falling from deep let him try to operate in the post and from mid range.

He has a player needs to find whatever way he can to help the team. His defensive effort has to step way up and be more consistent with what he does on defense.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408797by cleepers » Oct 24, 2013 - 04:45 PM PST
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Let him have the green light... on one condition: Unless his boxscore shows at least as many rebounds as 3pt attempts, he gets a DNP-CD next game.

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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408798by Agent0 » Oct 24, 2013 - 05:35 PM PST
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He needs to be better with his shot selection for sure, but he just needs to make more shots, there's really nothing else about it

He also needs to roll to the basket more, but before that, he certainly needs to be making more shots from outside.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408799by pageC4 » Oct 24, 2013 - 05:35 PM PST
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its a mistake to let him shoot so many threes

                
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Post ID: 408801by worm » Oct 24, 2013 - 06:08 PM PST
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its not a mistake,he has the go signal of coaching staff to build more confidence on shooting three's.

                
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Post ID: 408804by pageC4 » Oct 24, 2013 - 06:42 PM PST
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of course he does. I just hope the coaching staff is doing the right thing because so far it doesn't look like the right decision

                
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Post ID: 408808by tense2 » Oct 24, 2013 - 07:28 PM PST
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When the bell rings, the "right thing" will be done.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408810by MartyKahn » Oct 24, 2013 - 08:32 PM PST
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Blake could be a 21% 3pt shooter, yet nobody wants him taking those shot. Maybe Mullens should move in a tad

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408811by Agent0 » Oct 24, 2013 - 08:51 PM PST
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Blake last season shot better than Mullens from 16-23 and 10-15, Mullens needs to step in all the way to the rim, lol

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408812by cleepers » Oct 24, 2013 - 08:52 PM PST
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^^ More than a tad... his FG% outside the paint was exactly the same as his 3pt% last year. He needs to be in the paint or outside the arc. Anywhere in between and he's even less efficient.

                
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Post ID: 408813by CP3Heliflopter » Oct 24, 2013 - 09:15 PM PST
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No I rather have him chucking 3s than shooting midrange jumpers. His midrange jumper sucks and he can't finish for crap. At least 3 point shots are worth more points.

                
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Post ID: 408815by pageC4 » Oct 24, 2013 - 10:06 PM PST
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CP3Heliflopter wrote:
No I rather have him chucking 3s than shooting midrange jumpers. His midrange jumper sucks and he can't finish for crap. At least 3 point shots are worth more points.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408825by ClipsGForce » Oct 25, 2013 - 01:55 AM PST
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I rather have Mullins focus on his midrange, rebounding, and defense. This is where we need him the most.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408826by CP3Best » Oct 25, 2013 - 02:15 AM PST
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I'm worried about his lack of even trying on defense!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408827by ekker3 » Oct 25, 2013 - 02:32 AM PST
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the guy has already admitted he sucks on defense and struggles to rebound - 2 things that are pretty much NECESSARY if you want to last in this league as a fringe big. so what's he do? he jacks up an incredible amount of 3s leading to an insane amount of opposing fast breaks. someone's trying to go after austin rivers PER numbers this season.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408837by illastrate » Oct 25, 2013 - 11:12 AM PST
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Mullens just needs to get DNP-CD's. There's no reason to play him over Jamison/Lou/Hollins.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408838by TheDude » Oct 25, 2013 - 12:17 PM PST
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So far it's just practice. I'm still high on him. Lots of guys look like $hit in preseason and turn it on for the first real game. Agree with Ice that they should be rolling him to the rim a lot more. But I don't like the idea of working him from midrange. He's going to be a hot-cold guy all year, let's make sure the hot times are from deep.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408840by Andrew818 » Oct 25, 2013 - 01:25 PM PST
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It's only preseason.I highly doubt that Doc would give him the green light to fire up so many 3's in the regular season.Doc probably just wants Mullens to build confidence in his shot so when we need him to shoot from 3,he isn't hesitant to do it.Doc won't let players stay on the court if they have poor shot selection.

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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408842by ClipperDB » Oct 25, 2013 - 01:58 PM PST
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Defense and rebounding is all about desire. That is all you need to know when you hear a player admit he is not good at these.

                
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Post ID: 408854by Agent0 » Oct 25, 2013 - 05:41 PM PST
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I haven't seen his three's leading to many fast-break baskets. I know the general consensus is that longer shots lead to longer rebounds and fast-breaks, but they do also lead to more offensive rebounds.

Also just to add, not specifically responding to you, we have to remember that a 20 foot - inside 3PT line jumper and a 3PT shot are both long jump-shots that have a similar chance of leading to a long rebound. So this idea that he will somehow benefit the team more by shooting mid-range jumpers (unless he becomes like a 48% shooter from 16-23 like a Marc Gasol) is false.

Andrew, Doc has said if a player takes a shot that is a good shot for him, he isn't worried about that, even if he misses. Glen Davis was taking a shot that isn't a good shot for him and with 54 seconds left in the game while down 5 points. Yea, it's a bad shot for sure.

                
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Post ID: 408875by toohipcliptoslip » Oct 25, 2013 - 07:54 PM PST
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Isn't Mullins around a 0.3 three point shooter? Around 0.4 two point? Why does everybody want him to shoot threes? Even though you hay be bad on defense alone you can always help team defense with effort.

Why can't he rebound? He's seven feet tall? Does this mean "man up"?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 408944by Agent0 » Oct 25, 2013 - 10:38 PM PST
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You would think he shoots better inside the three point line, but....

Byron Mullens last season: 10-15: 35.4% / 72.4% assisted 16-23: 31.5% / 82.9% assisted 3PT: 31.7% / 95.5% assisted

The eFG% for 2 pointers is the same as their FG. The eFG% for 31.7% 3PT is 47.6% which is still bad, but 10% higher effectiveness than his best mid-range area, and spotting up from 10-15 isn't really spreading the floor the way we'd like. When he's shooting from long mid-range, he's worse than when he's shooting three's.

Unless he's hitting over 47.6% from either of those ranges, the 3PT shot is more effective, but just for the sake of stretching the floor, not necessarily the most efficient shot, he would still have to be shooting about 44% from 16-23 for teams to consider him a threat. He's 13% away from that....

Basically let's just look at it like this. Blake a Griffin shot better from mid-range than Mullens while creating FARRR more of those shots from 10-15 and 10% more from 16-23.

Blake Griffin: 10-15: 35.8% / 38.5% assisted 16-23: 34.0% / 72.7% assisted

....and Blake does not have the same length or ability to shoot over people and he's a main option type player. The difference is pretty massive for a guy that is theoretically an adequate shooter isn't it?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 409100by uncool » Oct 26, 2013 - 09:35 PM PST
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What's funny to me about Charles Barkley is he says Doc is coming into a headache with the Clips because of our frontcourt players... but then he said he LOVES the Mullens acquisition. Really? So he hates BG & DJ but loves Mullens?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Insider Request: More 3s Coming from Mullens? Post ID: 409101by CP3Heliflopter » Oct 26, 2013 - 09:44 PM PST
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Yep you aren't much of a floor spacer if your mid range game is inferior to BG's. Mullens is open and assisted a lot more too.

                
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