Clippers Vs. Lakers Official Game Thread 2013-10-29 (P. 11)

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tense2
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This team lost in the 1st round, 2nd round, and 1st round three seasons in a row. Both their first round losses were to teams with inferior records, at less 4 less wins. The next season they lost 105-85 in game 3 of the season to a team that finished two games over .500 and were 10-7 after the first 17 games. They gave up >105 pts in each of their first 5 losses. They ended up making it to the conference finals that same year. Who is this team?
This x a lot. Last season we were 2-2 after 4 games....

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ClipsGForce
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I'm just upset that we lost to the Lakers, of all people, inferior JV team. That's get me the most. If we are not winning by philosophy, we should won by talents. Overall, this is just a work in progress.

Icecoldclipper
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Players can't have the mindset of wiining purely on talent and it sucked when Doc mentioned it. Questioning talent is not the issue but how bad do you want this game is one for sure.

This was a reality check for players and staff no more advertising new culture its time to show it.

comeONcraig
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^This... plus the media's hype. even Doc said we were behind in schedule due to the injuries. the chemistry is there, its the lack of continuity. give it some time.

comeONcraig
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exactly. that's how we won 56 games last season. when it came to the playoffs, that pure talent was completely diminished.

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It's not how you start.......

tense2
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Please...in the 1st 29 games last year the 2 time NBA champs lost to the Wizards and Magic. Sh!t happens.

JahvonTheClip
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What i love about the NBA is when its a new day and new games people move on from yesterdays games (playoffs aside). Tomorrow will be a new day and a new team and challenge. Don't dwell on yesterdays game we have 81 more to play

Icecoldclipper
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Also the fact Lakers play GSW fans may be more focused on that game.Maybe the Lakers will tire them out.

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It's not how you start.......
EXACTLY! Well, I watched the game again this am on my dvr, and have a list of observations on what I saw in our players effort. To start off, I've said....

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ClipsGForce
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After 12 hours of being angry, i came back down to Earth and realize it was just 1 game out of 82 games. Lot more seasons to play for. Like someone says, we're playing for postseason and last night mark step 1 of our development. I rather see us peak in the playoff than in December. Knowing Doc, he'll get this team, a well oil machine by May. I really don't care much about seeding because I felt like we can beat any teams on any given night. As long the system is run close to perfection and get us to the WCF then I'll be a happy fan.

Voyeur
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No doubt about it now...we're gonna have to make Golden State our bitch tomorrow.

06clippersfan
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The whole team played horrible. They looked like a team coached by Vinny Del Negro not by Doc Rivers.

Dudley talked about being in the best shape of his life and getting in the gym earlier then past seasons, but he hasn't shown us anything.

And Our second unit is horrible!!! A lot of games will be lost bc they cannot defend consistently.

But hopefully tomorrow they play like the great team they can be

ArtMaggot
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Well, my day was pure HELL at work, how was yours?

Clippersfan86
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If the Lakers lose by 30 tonight and we beat the Warriors in a blowout tomorrow.. Lakers fans should start coming back down to earth a bit. If we get blown out and start the season 0-2 the talk will obviously increase.

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I competely agree!!!! The Clippers last season peaked to early with the 17 game win streak and being 1st in the West for a while! Then we fell off after the All Star break which....

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Akclipps
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yeah its been hell here at work.. i guess all those butt hurt laker fan has been waiting for over a year now just to talk smash they've been holding it for so long. last year they could not do nothing but cry because they got swept.. I honestly thank the lakers for giving us an early lesson and use this as a motivation to push even more. Just be patient on our Clippers and winning will come.

tense2
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Let's just win tomorrow by 1 point or more and it will be just find. Don't need a "blowout" to make things ok IMO.

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absolutely! We need a 17 game win in streak to end the season!

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I think we're better off starting the season playing .500 ball so that a fire can be lit under our *****. We lost this game for many reasons but that's not an excuse. Give this team 10-15 games to gel then judge.

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I'd settle for a 16-game win streak starting with our first playoff game Mr. Green

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This. Only worry about NFL and NCAA footballs first game. We got a way to go.

By Friday it will be GS. FAkers and us sitting at 1-1.

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In the grand scheme of things except for embarrassment this game means nothing. Any team can beat any team occasionally. Even if it takes us ten games to tune up OK. If we as as good as we think, a lower win percentage till all star break then catching fire is OK as long as it's a learning experience. Was this a great loss? YES. We should realize that everybody is gunning for us and they bring their A game. We have to bring it every night. A wake up call.

I've said this before but I'm afraid we have a problem. Bledsoe would not have helped. Dudley or Matt being rusty is not the problem. The problems are obvious if we look objectively. Everybody says the same thing. No Bigs. This game was not a fluke. If we don't fix it everybody will know how to beat us. There is a reason Ryan has been a scrub. I hoped he'd improve this year.

Two games in a row SCRUBS carve us up on the inside. This should be a wake up and fast

When an ostrich puts his head in the sand to escape his problem we know what happens to his rear end.

clipper*grl*76
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of course all the Laker fans have something to finally say about the Clippers - after last preseason and regular season shut out.. they have been sitting waiting for this moment.

I did expect our boys to come out and just DOMINATE all over Young and Kaman has their big mouth.

disappointed but not mad.. this is a what we may have needed to turn this season around.. DEFENSE has always been an issue - but the lack of effort to improve is what pissed me off. DJ thankfully was giving his all into the game and JJ acted like he was the man first half (which he was) then turned into a boy second half. overconfidence is what killed us. and something personally or injury-wise must be going on with Blake.. I expected to see BIG dunks ALL NIGHT!

DUDELY! for real - DOC YOU ALLOWED HIM TO START, why? because he had 1 good preseason game.. that dude is whack as soon as I saw that headband starting the 1st qtr.. I knew it was going to be rough game.. then WHILE WE ARE LOSING.... .you played DUDLEY AND HOLLINS TOGETHER!!!! DISASTER ALERT!! why didn't Bullock get a chance to play? Mullens I get why he didn't play and Collison dealing with slight knee issue early in the season, he needs to heal, we will need his FIRE.. Barnes.. okay don't have to be so ghetto.. its just the Lakers...

DOC came with the hype as well... that he was going to turn this team around... and YES IT IS ONLY GAME 1 I get it.. but how you gotta WIN BIG GAMES LIKE THIS..can not go out like no sucker punks getting beat by the BENCH!!! are you serious??? x Henry just made a huge name for himself at our expense.. and we gave the critics more ammo to talk mess about us..

WE MUST WIN the GS game..... we have to shut these darn people up. its early on in the season lot of games still to be played.. but what they demostrated last night, was disappointment.

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Personally I'd feel more comfortable with Barnes in the starting lineup at least until Dudz figures out how to make a jumpshot or cut to the basket for an easy layup smh but it's only game 1/82 so we'll see.

BringMcadooBackado
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I'm just unclear as to why Amundson got let go? Would've been nice to have a backup big that could play more than 4 minutes.

I mean, might have gotten a few more rebounds if that was the case. Maybe the bench would've even played decent defense...

I really hope that they're in talks to get Okafor or something. I'm not going to play the doomsayer just yet, but the fact that ALL of our backup bigs playing time combined for a total of 3 minutes and 57 seconds does not bode well.

Voyeur
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^

Yeah it sure seems like we dropped Lou right before the season for SOME reason.

REDUCE523
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I think the team looked bad. But that is why we went after Doc as a coach. I have faith he will make adjustments and that is what screwed the vdn era. We won because of pure talent. Doc is probably still watching tape is going to watch the GSW vs Lakers game and adjust to put the best product on the court. Lets have faith its a long season and it just sucked because we lost to the Fakers.

tense2
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Amundson wouldn't have helped , except in the fouling department, lol.

JahvonTheClip
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Anybody watching the Heat game? This proves that anybody can beat anybody on any given day. Only with consistent failure we should worry

tense2
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Barnes needs to play to his strengths; defense, rebounds and moving/slashing to the rim. He needs to cut down on the 3's and long 2"s. Dudley needs to shoot the 3's and long 2's since he is much better at it. Keep it the way it is and all will be good in SF position.

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They haven't loss yet and the Heat just came off a game against the Bulls last night. Its a b2b on the road not really the same thing.

tense2
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Steve Perrin's sensible and fair minded take on the game. Good read:

http://www.clipsnation.com/2013/10/29/5 ... th-116-103

JahvonTheClip
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Yeah I know but I was just saying. I bet Heat fans were going balistic as well.

tense2
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True, but there're playing a team Vegas has at 16 wins or under this year.

TheDude
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Let's trade Mullens for Tracy McGrady!!!!!

ClippersDA
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With our nonexistent perimeter defense anyone think tomorrow is going to be fun? We should call him Oc Rivers - not seeing any semblance of the defense he is known for. I do like him, but that was worse than anything we saw last year.

JahvonTheClip
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That Is not really docs fault that the players werent playing with a drive to win. I wish i could transplant joakim noahs motor into every player on the clippers. We would never lose

Voyeur
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My guess would be our perimeter D will be better due to the fact we watched the Lakers hit practically 50% of their 3's and we know GS likes to shoot those. Not sure we can stop them, but I think we'll try harder than last night.

REDUCE523
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Great article. I think fans are just mad as we believed the hype. Time to get back to fundamentals.

ClipperKyle32
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I am not trade happy anymore haha but funny though

toohipcliptoslip
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Could the obvious also be true. Could the Lakers just plain be be better than people think without Kobe running the show. Maybe D'Antoni's system works well with these guys? Nash can't play up tempo and I doubt Kobe can.

Pau was at the top of his game and Kaman played well. Maybe if Kobe plays within the system (fat chance) they'll not be TOO bad

Agent0
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So if Miami loses to Philly is it better or worse than the Clippers loss? Are they then hopeless Wink

See what some of us have been trying to say guys? One game at the beginning of the season just can't say anything. Does this mean Philly is a good team now, probably not, this might be their best game of the season.

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Great article. I didn't see the game and am still wondering just what happened and what it could mean. That article helped............................I think.

clipperAndrew
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We are officially .000 when Byron Mullens gets no playing time.

tense2
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Bet the over (16) for Philly in Vegas. Bet the under for the Knicks (50). Wink

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hahahaha. thanks for the laugh.

I took a break from CTB last night just to wait for things to settle down. Glad to see a lot of reasonable responses here. It's a process, and it will be exciting to see this team learn and grow throughout the season.

Agent0
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Should have. Brooklyn lost to Cleveland despite Kyrie struggling too. One of those nights

tense2
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That doesn't surprise me. The Nets better on paper...especially if it was 2009.

Icecoldclipper
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My lord the Warriors shooting!

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