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Post Subject: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411198by A_DOG_NAMED_BUD » Nov 03, 2013 - 11:37 PM PST
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I had my doubts about Eric Bledsoe being to able be a full time starting PG, but through his 1st 3 games of this season he looks like a stud. He's averaging 22 pts, 6.3 reb, 8.7 ast, and 2 steals. Not to mention he hit the game winning three against Utah. I'm not saying we should have kept him, but we should have gotten more than Redick and Dudley for him. Especially since our back up big men look pretty questionable.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411199by tense2 » Nov 03, 2013 - 11:41 PM PST
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When your painting a picture don't forget to add these colors: 14.67 FGA's , 409 FG%, .222 3pt% and 5.67 T.O. I like Bled, but again, I think we did just fine.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411200by ClippersDA » Nov 03, 2013 - 11:48 PM PST
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Agree with the original poster.

                
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Post ID: 411201by toohipcliptoslip » Nov 03, 2013 - 11:52 PM PST
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Bledsoe is this decade's Magette.

                
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Post ID: 411202by ohMEohMy! » Nov 04, 2013 - 12:30 AM PST
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E Bled is playing well, but I agree that we have to look at the whole picture. He can be great, but he's still got a ways to go..

                
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Post ID: 411207by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 04, 2013 - 12:48 AM PST
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That doesn't sound like a good thing. Razz

                
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Post ID: 411224by StBrg » Nov 04, 2013 - 09:09 AM PST
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I've been watching Suns games. He's still just as clumsy with the ball, sometimes too fast for his own good. 3 games in, he's a turnover machine.

I'm sure as he gets more comfortable as a starter, he will learn to become less prone to turnovers. I wish he was still on our team, but I'm happy for the guy. The good news is that we actually got something for him (I'm very pleased with Redick). Dudley got off to a slow start in the preseason, but after the last couple of games, it looks like his 3 point shot is back.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411286by A7XDreamTheaterClipps » Nov 04, 2013 - 04:49 PM PST
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Bled plays defense. Maggette still doesn't know what that is.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411311by Grillinnap » Nov 04, 2013 - 06:45 PM PST
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What is it with ex-Clipper youngsters making their debut with their new team and hitting game-winners in Phoenix?

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Post Subject: Re: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411632by jtwinnaz » Nov 05, 2013 - 09:28 AM PST
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Agree 100%. our bench looks very suspect so far and they are blowing leads every time CP3 goes on the bench, even with starters on the floor. With Bled, our second unit was better than some teams starting 5s.

and if you take look at his clutch numbers, he is leading the league so far this season.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411736by Silasie » Nov 06, 2013 - 09:40 AM PST
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I look forward to seeing the Clips play the Suns and see Bled and CP match up, should be fun.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 411753by youngrondo22 » Nov 06, 2013 - 01:03 PM PST
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Bledsoe is an animal!

People saying that he's clumsy with the ball, and the clippers are still fine, and you guys are happy with Reddick and Dudley don't know bball.

He's 23 and averaging 23,8,6 you guys gave up a future all-star and top PG in the league for close to nothing.

Bledsoe turnovers are still a problem, but his potential is right up there with any PG in the L, not every PG has a high ceiling, Bledsoe's ceiling is as high as all get out.

                
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Post ID: 411754by tense2 » Nov 06, 2013 - 01:40 PM PST
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His TO's are a problem for a supposed future all-star pg. He still has a sg mentality. I aways thought we should have given him a shot a that slot.

Oh, wish him well in his career.

                
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Post ID: 411756by Voyeur » Nov 06, 2013 - 01:58 PM PST
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Gee thanks for educating us all on bball. Heaven forbid we consider it good bball to have outside shooters on a team with two low post players in the starting lineup.

                
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Post ID: 413234by clipperboy24 » Nov 10, 2013 - 10:27 PM PST
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TO's isn't about having a sg or pg mindset but about good enough passing decisions and ball handling. Bledsoe had never been a sg mentality that's why they didn't want to start him at sg with Paul. Too bad because they played well together and a dual pg front can work really well when one is super athletic.

Bledsoe is a averaging 21ppg 7.5apg 5rpg and to think we traded him for Jared Dudley. Yes that is what we did because all Milwaukee got for JJ Redick was Caron a 2nd rounder from us and a 2nd rounder from Phoenix. Might turn out to be one of the worst trades in our history (Bledsoe for Dudley that is)

                
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Post ID: 413235by CapsNClips » Nov 10, 2013 - 10:33 PM PST
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3 years of Jared Dudley for 1 year of Bledsoe. I think we did pretty good taking into account we wouldn't be able to match his contract.

                
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Post ID: 413241by jtwinnaz » Nov 10, 2013 - 11:31 PM PST
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we did terrible. look at what the sixers got for holiday, who bledsoe has destroyed in 2 games so far this season. i think we could have at least got one 1st rounder out of phoenix who has 4 in this years draft and a few more next year.

                
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Post ID: 413245by clipperboy24 » Nov 11, 2013 - 12:08 AM PST
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I would have rather had 1 year of Bledsoe and used him as a s&t piece. 3 yrs of Dudley better be the best Dudley of his career.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 413253by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 11, 2013 - 01:05 AM PST
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3 yrs of Dudley only huh? We also got Redick you know.... And why would anyone want to trade for Bledsoe after a year when they could just wait for him to be a FA?

                
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Post ID: 413277by clipperboy24 » Nov 11, 2013 - 10:14 AM PST
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Look at the details of the trade all that Milwaukee got was butler and 2 second rounders. I think we could have worked that straight up. The suns raped us by trading Dudley and a 2nd rounder for Bledsoe. Might be our worst trade ever.

                
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Post ID: 413278by clipperboy24 » Nov 11, 2013 - 10:15 AM PST
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Also Bledsoe will be a restricted FA the ultimate s&t scenario.

                
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Post ID: 413305by tense2 » Nov 11, 2013 - 01:16 PM PST
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TO's are a very big neg for any position particularly at PG and his court vision/passing skills so far are just average to below average. We'll see IF and how good he can make his teammates. Time will tell on how good PG he will end up being.

Scoring, REB and defense are his strong suits at this point in his career. Sounds like he would have made a good SG. Razz

By the way, I really like EB and wish him the best.

                
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Post ID: 413664by clipperboy24 » Nov 12, 2013 - 12:44 AM PST
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Passing is one of his biggest suits just like it was in high school when he was the second rated PG not SG. Don't know why everyone acts like he has been a sg trying to be a PG. he can be out of control but he is a great passer and playmaker and gets the job done. Sometimes someone does thing a little more unconventional.

But I can understand it being hard for some people to accept things being out of the ordinary, most struggle to see outside the box they are trapped in Smile

                
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Post ID: 413678by Clipswhit » Nov 12, 2013 - 05:24 AM PST
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Pretty sure Russell Westbrook is insanely turnover prone as well, and he's considered elite.

                
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Post ID: 413698by tense2 » Nov 12, 2013 - 02:53 PM PST
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By some so-called experts. Think he's overrated actually.

                
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Post ID: 413699by clipperboy24 » Nov 12, 2013 - 04:29 PM PST
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Well If you think so, then case closed.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 413700by jtwinnaz » Nov 12, 2013 - 05:12 PM PST
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in case you guys have been missing out on the bledshow:

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Post ID: 413705by tense2 » Nov 12, 2013 - 06:53 PM PST
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Thanks for the acknowledgement and intelligent remark. Smile

                
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Post ID: 413717by clipperboy24 » Nov 12, 2013 - 09:15 PM PST
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Haha no prob Wink

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 414515by catalyst » Nov 16, 2013 - 12:15 AM PST
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Bledsoe just cracked the mvp ladder this week, so happy for him.

                
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Post ID: 414526by Silasie » Nov 16, 2013 - 07:43 AM PST
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Yeah that is good going for Bled.

I have to say your avatar is a bit disturbing Smile

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 414529by pageC4 » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:42 AM PST
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Eric will have a great season, and he will be in the top 15 PG's in the NBA. However, I still think this:

20.4 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.6 RPG, and 24.05 PER will hold.

I project Eric to eventually slow down and average 16 PPG, 6 APG, and 3 RPG. Still solid numbers, but man his hot start seems way too good to be true

                
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Post ID: 414530by pageC4 » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:53 AM PST
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Let me guess who your team is. Any clippers fan that watches the game has had over 3 years to evaluate Bledsoe's play. Bledsoe is a superb athlete. He's quick and great on defense, but in regards to our decision to ship him out it was a no brainer. When you have Chris Paul, you don't keep a young point guard with "potential." You ship him out in exchange for ancillary pieces that will help Chris Paul. At the time we had an aging Chauncey Billups and Caron Butler. Trading Bledsoe landed us one of the best shooting guards (Redick) and a SF (Dudley) that hasn't even begun to show what he was made of. If Bledsoe stays here he helps the second unit, but he rots away wasting his potential and we remain with againg players at the wing. Bledsoe has had a hot start, but let's see how his numbers look at the end of the year. So considering the move the Clippers made it was the right one, and in fact you calling out people who are happy with Dudley and Redick is the wrong thing to say. It is you who don't know anything about B-ball, and you base your amazing insight on 8-9 games where Bledsoe is the best player on a weak and rebuilding team? It was probably not the brightest thing you've done on your short time here to insult respected members here for their support of Redick and Dudley

                
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Post ID: 414534by Silasie » Nov 16, 2013 - 10:11 AM PST
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For close to nothing hey! Dudley might be not be lighting it up right now but Reddick is making a big impact. He's a major piece for us and making hay with a PG like CP.

                
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Post ID: 414557by pageC4 » Nov 16, 2013 - 01:39 PM PST
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yeah its a bit odd

                
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Post ID: 414918by clipperboy24 » Nov 17, 2013 - 11:13 AM PST
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I think he stays where he is at. He is dominating out there and shows how smart the suns were eight hat trade. I agree we needed to trade bledsoe but we picked he worst deal to do it with.

The other thing people forget is Bledoe's defense is top notch. That the best part of his game so it's great for him to see his offensive stats so high. I truly believe this was one of the worst trades our franchise made because I think we could have traded for reddick straight away and not even included bledsoe in the deal.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 414968by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 06:11 PM PST
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He isn't going to sustain those numbers. I can see him being a star but no way can he continue to shoot at 50% when he only shot in the low 40s as a backup PG.

                
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Post ID: 414970by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 06:32 PM PST
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Actually some fans keep thinking it was a straight up swap Dudley for Bledsoe which it wasn't. It was both guys you were needed (Butler AND Dudley) for EB not matter how some people try to spin it.

The Clippers wanted/needed some team to absorb the cap space and Caron was someone nobody really wanted at the start and middle of the FA period. The Bucks took Caron way later in FA when they lost Ellis and Jennings and couldn't sign anyone else.

Another team would mostly likely have gobbled up JR if we had waited until the Bucks decided to bite their tongue and sign Butler. Who's knows who we would have ended up with at the SG position.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 414973by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 06:46 PM PST
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Overall, I am happy with the trade especially with Redick. Once we see Dudley and Collison recover from their respective injuries our team will get a lot better. Then add in Odom and improve our chemistry....

                
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Post ID: 414975by clipperboy24 » Nov 17, 2013 - 06:55 PM PST
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Sorry tense but you have the facts mixed up. The bucks traded for butler, didn't sign him. They have up Ish Smith who was cut and Kravtsov who has done nothing. Yes we would not have been able to get Dudley if we didn't include the suns (which looks like that could have been good) but from what actually transpired it seems very feasible we could have only traded with the bucks to acquire Reddick. Then we could have packaged Bledsoe and crawford or some other salary with Bledsoe to get a legit sf and/or possibly a 1st round pick. Afflalo is looking like he would have fit in great.

Here is the trade announcement FYI: http://www.nba.com/bucks/#/story/release/bucks-acquire-two-time-all-st ar-caron-butler-suns

                
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Post Subject: RE: Eric Bledsoe Looking Like a Legitimate Starting PG Post ID: 414976by clipperboy24 » Nov 17, 2013 - 07:00 PM PST
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I love what reddick is doing for us but we were probably getting Nicholson and a 1st rounder (protected) with afflalo. I think that was a better trade.

                
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Post ID: 414977by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 07:16 PM PST
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What I meant or should have said, was the Bucks "took" (traded for him) him when all else had failed. But he was necessary in the Sun's deal to free up cap space to get to get Redick.

Who knows what would have transpired in the future. Maybe better or maybe worse.

                
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Post ID: 414978by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 07:17 PM PST
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Maybe, maybe not. Who's knows.

And before labeling it a better of worse trade, I'm going to give it more then a 10 game/small sample size time period.

Not sure who we could have packaged along with EB to get that deal from the Magic. I'm pretty sure they would haven't wanted Crawford and the $ with them drafting Victor O.

                
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Post ID: 414983by clipperboy24 » Nov 17, 2013 - 07:56 PM PST
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The rumor was butler and bledsoe. It is pretty amazing how well Afflalo is playing though, who knows if that lasts or not. He is a good defender though, and we really could use Nicholson.

                
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Post ID: 414984by CapsNClips » Nov 17, 2013 - 08:10 PM PST
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Obviously this doesn't apply to back up bigs, right??

                
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Post ID: 414988by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 08:21 PM PST
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With history NOT on their side, the probabilities aren't good. So no it doesn't Wink

                
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Post ID: 414989by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 08:23 PM PST
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We'll never know if that was just a rumor...and you know how releiable rumors are.

                
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Post ID: 414991by CapsNClips » Nov 17, 2013 - 08:59 PM PST
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Love it.

                
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Post ID: 414993by clipperboy24 » Nov 17, 2013 - 09:06 PM PST
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Funny how when it matches your point of view you like it to be open ended and if you are so sure it's so concrete.

Funny guy you are tense. And yes I know right back at me, right?

                
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Post ID: 414998by tense2 » Nov 18, 2013 - 12:04 AM PST
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Nothing matching my point of view, lol. You know for sure that rumor was true and that supposed trade was going down....hmmm

And yes, right back at you.

                
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