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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412542by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:53 PM PST
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Bg was great this game but that was a dumb move by him. He wasted 15 seconds by not fouling.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412543by clipper*joe » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:53 PM PST
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Only good that came out this is the fact that BG basically shut out LBJ when he took him on.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412544by Icecoldclipper » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:54 PM PST
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If we were going to foul why not full court press and foul that's on Doc not Blake.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412545by Markojaric » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:54 PM PST
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What happened there, god. Doc was 6 ft inside the court.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412546by gman » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:54 PM PST
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Why is there so much HATE on BG. I don't understand. He is the best Clipper by far today. Playing good d on Bron no less.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412547by catalyst » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:55 PM PST
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seems CP3s not as aggressive as the past 5 games Sad

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412548by JahvonTheClip » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:55 PM PST
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If that was lebron that would have been 3 fts btw

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412549by Heediot » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:55 PM PST
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I''m not too worried.

It seems like when we score less we give up less points, coincidence?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412550by Icecoldclipper » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:56 PM PST
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3-3 well we are back to square one.

                
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Post ID: 412551by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:57 PM PST
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Only good thing about this game was BG was dominant. Paul played pretty poorly. His shot seemed off and he had some uncharacteristic turnovers(got jobbed on a few calls too).

                
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Post ID: 412552by Heediot » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:57 PM PST
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People were only mad at him wasting so much time without fouling late.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412553by JahvonTheClip » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:57 PM PST
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Dear Sad Clippers fans,

The "title contender" Bulls are 1-3. Feel Better

From Sad Clippers fan

                
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Post ID: 412554by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:58 PM PST
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Heat's defense was very good on Paul and his shot was off. I am not too worried. We played pretty well considering its a b2b against the Heat at home. Our defense is still shaky but its slowly improving which is good. We are 3-3 but our schedule is tough. I rather peak later than early anyway.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412555by Akclipps » Nov 07, 2013 - 08:59 PM PST
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No actually he is aggressive its just teams double team cp3 rite away that is why our offense gets killed. Blake griffin was actually aggressive in the last minute of this game. He should have done that earlier when they were up. Our team is too passive and our defense needs to get better

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412556by Clipperfn4lf » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:00 PM PST
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Doc is a lot of talk it seems so far. "DJ defensive player of year." How about Clippers worst defensive team in NBA.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412557by Clippersfan86 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:00 PM PST
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Blake and DJ were the only bright spots today. Miami game planned well probably after watching Rockets game and focused their entire D pretty much on shutting down our guards playmaking and shooting.

Blake: 27 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals. 11-14 shooting, 4-5 from the line, scored 4 clutch buckets down the stretch.

DJ: 11 points, 14 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals on 4-8 shooting, 3-5 from the line.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412558by Clippersfan86 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:00 PM PST
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Blake and DJ were the only bright spots today. Miami game planned well probably after watching Rockets game and focused their entire D pretty much on shutting down our guards playmaking and shooting.

Blake: 27 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals. 11-14 shooting, 4-5 from the line, scored 4 clutch buckets down the stretch.

DJ: 11 points, 14 rebounds, 1 block, 2 steals on 4-8 shooting, 3-5 from the line.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412560by REDUCE523 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:01 PM PST
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So is it me but we looked better last year?

                
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Post ID: 412561by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:02 PM PST
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We looked great at the start of the season then looked like crap at the end of the season. Hopefully it is the reverse this season. Smile

                
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Post ID: 412562by JahvonTheClip » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:02 PM PST
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I feel like we may look bad because they played with no structure for 2 years. They have developed bad habits. Its very hard to unlearn what you learned and rewire all your principles. Just gotta wait this is gonna be a long and painful process

                
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Post ID: 412563by gman » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:03 PM PST
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I am not talking about the last play. I am saying all game long TNT has been bashing him. comparing him to KG is stupid. Plus he made Lebron look human, not saying he shut him down but he was able to slow him down. At one point they that his 21-13 game was not effective. Not effective????

Please someone explain to me how the only guy keeping us in has a "not effective game"?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412564by WinningBasket » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:03 PM PST
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I'm glad to read some consoling posts about this loss. Although they led the Heat for most of the game and then lost the lead, the Clips did hang on until the end. Learning experience for our team.

                
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Post ID: 412565by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:05 PM PST
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I suggest you just turn off the tv when the TNT show starts. The people on that show are clueless clowns. Being a great nba player does not mean you know what you are talking about when it comes to actually analyzing the game and other players.

                
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Post ID: 412567by WinningBasket » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:07 PM PST
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Yeah, I had to tune out the TNT guys. They are just a nasty, overbearing bunch. Can't stand any of them.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412569by Icecoldclipper » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:09 PM PST
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This win now year and if Doc is going to be a tight ass about playing Bullock we might as well try to trade him for a big. Watching Willie getting abused on switches and still no Bullock what's the point. Jamison needs to start playing especially when Jordan is in with the bench.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412570by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:09 PM PST
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This is BG's best game of the season so far.

                
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Post ID: 412571by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:10 PM PST
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Willie on Lebron was really bizarre. That was such a mismatch. How does Doc expect Willie to do anything against Lebron? Felt bad for him tbh.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412572by catalyst » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:10 PM PST
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Should've defended Dwade better considering he mostly took jumpers

                
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Post ID: 412573by CapsNClips » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:11 PM PST
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Blake might be the only player in the league with the physical tools to guard LBJ....but, it's LBJ.....you can only hope to contain him. If we meet in the Finals Blake will have the task to do so.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412574by Icecoldclipper » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:12 PM PST
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We can't trade Crawford ever! He is the safety when Dudley doesn't score. Suns should of gave us a damn pick.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412575by Clippersfan86 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:12 PM PST
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Coach Nick called Blake our best Lebron defender tonight.

                
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Post ID: 412576by jarca » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:14 PM PST
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Our team is too incomplete to call it a win now year. Last year was more of a win now with all the injuries in the west

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412577by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:15 PM PST
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Is it me or is our defense slowly looking sharper? Still not good but its not super terrible.

                
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Post ID: 412578by gman » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:16 PM PST
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I am thinking this was Docs' idea from day one. We do not have a defensive specialist who can slow down James. He knew that this would be the perfect time to have BG guard LBJ. Get him on the mind set that he could be a good defender and be ready for the FINALS when we get there. Props to BG for doing all he could vs James.

                
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Post ID: 412579by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:18 PM PST
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He did a very good job. He might have t-rex arms but he is pretty much the only guy on our team who has the strength to guard Lebron. They are both tanks.

Also I noticed that BG had two nice hard fouls this game which is good.

                
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Post ID: 412580by CapsNClips » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:20 PM PST
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It's not just you, we looked the best we have all season. Still isn't Elite level yet, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412581by Icecoldclipper » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:21 PM PST
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Until Collison and Barnes gets 100% back into and we get back up big production this team will struggle greatly on the road.

                
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Post ID: 412583by tense2 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:29 PM PST
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Dudley needs to put more than 5 damn shots, geez.

                
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Post ID: 412584by clipperboy24 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:30 PM PST
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They look a little better because there hasn't been a strong 3 point shooting team. That's when our d will allow 110 plus again.

On e again Dudley looked slow as molasses and our bench played some bad D. Was nice to see Blake playing so well and JJ looked pretty solid on offense but the d is just not there.

I think one of the biggest problems with our D is the propensity to try and get steals instead of helping only when someone is best or has the ball open. There are so many ill advised switches that the team is leaving players open nearly every play.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412585by kjavis » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:32 PM PST
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Road woes 0-3 to start the season

Some obvious flaws, defensively we are to small at the 2, other than Jamal bench suckx both on O n D. We are sorely missing a forward with energy that can pull those big hustle plays guys like kmart, Reggie and Lamar of recent seasons come into mind.

To some extent I agree with miller, BG had a good game but for us to win he had to have a great game, at least 30+pts, if he is truly a superstar you expect no less, IMO still not playing at the same level as his first 2 years.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412586by Agent0 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:36 PM PST
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Technically for a whole game the team shooting wasn't really bad. Of course it was hot in the beginning and slowed down, but whole game shooting wasn't bad. Good enough offensive games don't always mean the offense is good from start to finish, but if the overall product is good, then you just have to make sure the oppositions overall product isn't as good.

There are different ways to win games. Sometimes your offense is working all game, sometimes sometimes your defense is working all game, and sometimes your offense is clicking early and later you have to rely on your defense or vice versa. The problem with this team sofar is that they can't win one half on offense and then win the other on defense.

This was the type of game where you should win the first half on defense, then produce enough offensively in the second half and limit your opponent enough that your defense is able to carry you to the win.

Miami shot 53.5% FG, 31.3% 3PT, 33 FTA. They had 16 TO's, which is good, but not enough to overcome everything else.

Blake vs Lebron: I've said it before, but Blake is actually basically the same effective size as Lebron, so what he does is really impressive. Lebron has a longer reach than Blake, and there aren't really many SF's with more strength than Lebron. Blake seemingly matches up decently with him to be honest. Maybe one of the few PF's that can actually matchup with him without it being bad.

Unless he makes the jumpers, not much you can do about that right?

Also can't neglect that Willie Green playing SF and being overly outmatched meant that there was more help than you would want, and that didn't help. Barnes playing would have helped there.

                
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Post ID: 412587by clipperboy24 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:36 PM PST
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We definitely need more production on offense defense and on the boards from the 3 position.

It's crazy how poor Dudley is playing and how he still gets so many minutes. Just try reggie bullock already!!!!

                
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Post ID: 412588by renshaibob » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:37 PM PST
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because dude is a beast so his weaknesses really stick out. but i think Doc will have his game improved by the end of the season. Either DJ or BJ is going to have to develop a real post up game and BG has to become more decisive.

                
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Post ID: 412589by Agent0 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:38 PM PST
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Doc isn't known to play rookies a ton, but Bullock can't be impressing enough in practice if he isn't getting minutes.

Dudley definitely needs to shoot more and loose weight.

                
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Post ID: 412591by tense2 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:42 PM PST
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Don't think that happens with Doc and rookies. Just gotta tell Jared to shoot more for Christ Sakes. Too good of a shooter/decent defender and he has history is on his side.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412593by lucas26 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:46 PM PST
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We want phil! We want phil! We want phil! I blame Doc!

                
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Post ID: 412594by tense2 » Nov 07, 2013 - 09:48 PM PST
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Don't think the weight has anything to do with it as he's looked (IMO) that way pretty much though out his career. The only weight that maybe affecting him is the one between his ears.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Heat Official Game Thread 2013-11-07 Post ID: 412601by Clippersfan86 » Nov 07, 2013 - 10:21 PM PST
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Rachel Nichols ‏@Rachel__Nichols 59m Clippers @CP3 admirable in defeat tonight, says of loss to Heat: "this one is on me. I've got to do better."

                
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Post ID: 412605by CapsNClips » Nov 07, 2013 - 10:33 PM PST
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Damn right CP. Got to push the ball more, that way they can't trap you at the top of the key. He needs to learn from Pheonix Suns Steve Nash. You can penetrate into the paint without having to take a shot or pass it, just run out of the paint without losing momentum and eventually someone will be open.

It also scrambles the defense momentarily.

                
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Post ID: 412606by clipperboy24 » Nov 07, 2013 - 10:40 PM PST
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i think it's more doc deciding to go with vets than it is bullock. He historically is very stubborn about playing rookies.

                
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