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Post ID: 413085by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 09, 2013 - 10:43 PM PST
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That doesn't even make sense. He doesn't do good against contending road teams so he is a diva? Its more like good teams do a better job of shutting him down especially Miami. Last season was a mixed bag in terms of how he did against good teams on the road(not sure what you consider a good team). He had good games against the Spurs, Pacers, Knicks, GSWs, Dallas. Also had terrible games against OKC, the Heat and a bunch of average-below average games.

You are having selective memory.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413087by david » Nov 09, 2013 - 10:45 PM PST
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What improved defensive effort there in the 3rd quarter after 4 or 5 minutes had gone by. Guys were more ready take the challenge of keeping their man in front of them, and the intensity defensively was much better. They got stops, held Houston to 1 shot, and got multiple offensive opportunities (thanks to DJ), and made the most of them. This was unlike in the first half where Houston guards were penetrating at will.

GREAT game by JJ Redick. He started out very nicely like usual, & played a big part in keeping the Clippers within striking distance. He then kept up the terrific play into the second half on both ends of the floor. This was probably JJ's best all-around game as a Clipper thus far. Blake Griffin had another good game with some good hoops inside, good D & rebounding. CP didn't have a great game but made his share of good plays in the second half to help stretch the lead and seal the game. Jamal was off most of the game but then & hit some huge shots to help give the Clippers the big lead in the 4th. That buzzer-beater tip in at the end of the 3rd quarter was BIG in helping keep the momentum going in the 4th.

Going forward, hopefully guys will take it more upon themselves in keeping their man in front of them the ENTIRE GAME, and defensively the team will be so much better.

BTW nice to see Bullock get his feet wet- too bad he didn't score, but grabbed a couple of boards.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413103by Voyeur » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:01 PM PST
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Does NBA Gametime have some sort of clause in the contract stipulating they must hold out there Clipper highlights until, like, FOREVER?

                
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Post ID: 413105by Clippersfan86 » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:02 PM PST
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Take away the road stipulation. Go look at CP3's splits.. and you'll quickly add up 15+ bad games against good teams. We can't have that from our superstar. He needs to be BETTER against great teams and he can relax some against bad teams. Seeing guys like Sefalosha hold him to 4-15 shooting etc is discouraging.

                
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Post ID: 413112by pageC4 » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:06 PM PST
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You and me both. I had Clippersfan86 keeping filling me in. I told my wife that I wasn't going to watch the game tonight because I wasn't up for that emotional roller coaster this team can put me through. Glad to be back in the win column. We just need to stop these streaks though, We go from 3-1 with wins against top tier talent, to 3-3 against winnable opponents like Orlando. We still have that bad habit of digging ourselves in a hole

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413116by Voyeur » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:09 PM PST
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Welp...I must admit I figured we'd go 1-3 on this trip, but I thought it would be a win at Orlando, with losses in Miami and Houston. I think we'll be a better team than Houston, but I figured their wanting payback would trump our needing a win.

                
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Post ID: 413118by pageC4 » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:10 PM PST
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I think that the Golden State Game, and Houston games had one thing in common: Chris Paul setting the pace early and not letting up. But when he decides to save up his energy for only the second half the results don't look as great. I think it trickles down to the rest of the team as well. If your top star isn't doing well then they don't double up on him or focus the game plan on him. When your top star is doing well the team strategy has to shift to contain them and that leaves others open to operate more freely than they normally would.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413123by pageC4 » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:17 PM PST
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Also, on a side note I was looking at the win loss column and we do much better when CP3 averages more than 20 points. The only exception to this was tonight. vs. Lakers-Lost, scored 15 vs. GSW-Won, scored 42 vs. Sacramento-Won, scored 26 vs. Houston-Won, scored 23 vs. Orlando-Lost, scored 18 vs. Miami-Lost, scored 11 vs. Houston-Won, scored 14

                
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Post ID: 413125by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:20 PM PST
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I think you are equating bad shooting night with bad game. CP3 isn't Lebron. He is going to have a lot of off shooting nights since he relies so much on his mid range jumper to score. He doesn't get much easy points off dunks and layups. Look at any other top PG and they have even more off nights. Not to mention he is a PG not a SG, SF or PF so it is fine if he doesn't look to score as long as he is a doing a good job running the offense and the team as a whole is doing well offensively. Sometimes CP3 does poorly due to the opposing defense, sometimes due to his shot not falling and sometimes due to a lack of aggressiveness or a combination of the above. The point is even if he is shooting 3/11 its not necessarily due to a lack of effort or even him being shut down like you imply. You can't compare him to guys like Lebron or Durant. At the end of the day he is a 5'11 PG.

He is very capable of torching great defensive teams if his shot is on like he did in 5 out of 6 games against the Griz in the playoffs. If it is off he will do poorly sometimes even if he up against poor defenses.

                
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Post ID: 413127by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:24 PM PST
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Think about it. Does this really tell you anything? All this really says is that if your superstar is shooting well your team is more likely to win which is kind of obvious. In the Orlando game most of our team played like crap. In the Miami game CP3 was aggressive but he was shut down by double teams. In the Houston game his shot wasn't falling but he did make plays.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413133by A_DOG_NAMED_BUD » Nov 09, 2013 - 11:50 PM PST
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This was the best "team win" tonight. They showed a lot of heart by coming back from that horrible first half. Great game.

                
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Post ID: 413138by clipperboy24 » Nov 10, 2013 - 12:29 AM PST
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Well said!! I just finished watching the game and it was so ugly at fist. When crawford made that tip in it just seemed like we had good momentum going our way.

Finally saw the Dudley we need on offense. His defense and rebounding were awful (he loves to cheat on d) but if he can play solid offense and shoot like that it would be very nice. Bullock finally got a few minutes which I was happy about his defense looked good shooting not very good but that will come. That 4 guard or 3 guard 1 small forward and a big lineup is a killer to us of the shots aren't falling as we had virtually no rebounding. Was nice once the two bigs come in or at least the forward is boxing out.

Great comeback victory for us and looking for more.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413140by Grillinnap » Nov 10, 2013 - 12:37 AM PST
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Our first "championship" quality win. Great perseverance.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413145by Akclipps » Nov 10, 2013 - 02:12 AM PST
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That 18-0 run was really nice.. We need defense like that do be champs

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413146by EwanB » Nov 10, 2013 - 04:10 AM PST
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Loved the numbers DJ was putting up, didn't love having to have him taken out at the end of the 4th quarter because of FT's

                
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Post ID: 413150by Silasie » Nov 10, 2013 - 06:35 AM PST
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Totally agree. That come back will be important for confidence cos the TWolves are no pushover at the moment KLove is on fire.

                
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Post ID: 413173by gman » Nov 10, 2013 - 11:43 AM PST
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I am not sure he is on fire. Yes he shoots free throws well at 84%, but he is shooting about 47% from field and 31% on threes while taking about 6 three point shots a game.

For a big man that % is low, but if you take the 3 out of his game he is at about 55% from the field. By doing that his 27 point a game drops.

                
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Post ID: 413177by Silasie » Nov 10, 2013 - 12:00 PM PST
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Good point. I didn't look at the stats I just know he is scoring a lot of pts and the Wolves are on a roll.

                
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Post ID: 413180by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 10, 2013 - 12:08 PM PST
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He gets over 8 FTA per game. Overall, he is scoring 27.2 ppg on 59TS% which is absolutely superb along with nearly 15 boards a game. I would say he is on fire. He is also averaging 5 apg and rarely turns the ball over and his defense seems to have improved. Not really much you can complain about considering his team is doing well too. Now the question is does he and his team stay healthy? I also doubt he sustains this level of play. He will fall off a bit but still play at a very high level.

It will be fun to see Blake Griffin match up against him tomorrow.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413203by Voyeur » Nov 10, 2013 - 03:26 PM PST
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If Love's defense has improved then it's almost infinitesimal. Blake should be able to score on Love. Hopefully he stays aggressive. Kevin Martin was a Clipper killer on OKC last season. However, we are a little better defending shooting guards this year so far. If Redick and Crawford can do to Martin what they did to Klay Thompson, I'll be happy. I think Rubio will be fun to watch, but CP3 should be a beast against him.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413221by GRIFFINSANITY » Nov 10, 2013 - 07:26 PM PST
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Hey guys what tickets should i get for the game on monday sec. 104 or sec.114? they're both the same price

                
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Post ID: 413233by gman » Nov 10, 2013 - 10:22 PM PST
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Blake Griffin has a 61TS%. The leader at PF is K. Martin at .799% and the leader at at least 30MPG is Amir Johnson at 65%.

Blake has a lower usage rate, and gets to the line at about 7 times a game.

PPS (Points Per Shot) Blake is at 1.46 and Love is at 1.41.

                
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Post ID: 413238by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 10, 2013 - 11:02 PM PST
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Blake is scoring more efficiently but both are very efficient scorers atm not to mention Love scores on higher volume and rebounds more. Not really going to get into this. Not interested in BG vs Love comparisons.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413308by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 11, 2013 - 01:47 PM PST
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@NBAOfficial: HOU's J. Harden Fined $5,000 for Flopping vs. L.A. Clippers on Nov. 9. http://t.co/he6bOcW8CC

Lolololollol i knew he would get it for that one

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Rockets Official Game Thread 2013-11-09 Post ID: 413310by CapsNClips » Nov 11, 2013 - 02:16 PM PST
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^ LOL, move over Chris, there's a new sheriff in town. Now if only the refs would recognize Hardens head fakes and not call fouls every f*cking time.

                
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Post ID: 413313by cleepers » Nov 11, 2013 - 02:44 PM PST
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And dirty-arse Chalmers only got upgraded to a flagrant 1 and $15k fine.

Should have been made to sit 2 games.

                
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Post ID: 413314by jarca » Nov 11, 2013 - 02:46 PM PST
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This is not the first time chalmers went after Blake too.

                
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