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clipperboy24
Post ID: 413859by clipperboy24 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:08 PM PST
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Well it's bigger than the sample size many on this site have judged reggie bullock by, lol.

It's just funny seeing people loving on Dudley when he has been so mediocre at best.

Also Caron was basically injured his shop career as a clipper that's just reality.



                
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Post ID: 413860by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:09 PM PST
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8 game and counting lol 8)

                
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Post ID: 413861by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:10 PM PST
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Shhhhh. You can only use the injury/excuse when crunching number doesn't work on his favor even by stretching it by per 36 Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_01

                
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Post ID: 413863by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:13 PM PST
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Look at his history, that's all. Plus you can't have it both ways with the so-called injury excuse.

                
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Post ID: 413865by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:16 PM PST
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Makes as much sense as your Paul vs Parker argument. keep it up, this fun. Razz

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 413866by ClipperB23 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:17 PM PST
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^ Hahaha Tense speaking the truth. Got em!

                
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Post ID: 413867by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:17 PM PST
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Yup because I argue with what ACTUALLY happened not hypothetical

                
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Post ID: 413869by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:19 PM PST
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You didn't do a very good at that either. Stay in the subjective small sample size frame, it suits you better.

                
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Post ID: 413871by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:23 PM PST
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And you stick to your hypothetical/injury argument

                
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Post ID: 413875by clipperboy24 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:40 PM PST
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Yep that's why I am saying if you are going to use an excuse for Dudley injury wise than caron deserves the same.

                
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Post ID: 413877by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:42 PM PST
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So we have used the injury excuse for Butler for the two seasons he was here?

                
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Post ID: 413878by DocHollywood » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:43 PM PST
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What's funny is you hating on an injured yet proven NBA talent while simultaneously loving on an unproven 26th pick. So is Reggie's time at North Carolina your sample size, or have you been watching some of his high school games too? I'll ask again since you wisely avoided answering the first time: what game footage indicates to you or any one else here that Bullock is NBA ready? There is none. You don't play a rookie in a regular season game to see if he doesn't fail. You play a rookie when you believe they're ready to succeed. Trust Doc on these matters.

                
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Post ID: 413880by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:45 PM PST
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Ok, we're going around in a circle, so let's see at seasons end who was "right".

On to the Thunder game.

                
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Post ID: 413881by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:46 PM PST
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2yrs vs small sample size...yeah that's fair, lol.

                
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Post ID: 413882by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:49 PM PST
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Not hypothetical at all.

By the way, how did that Paul/Parker Poll turn out. Razz

                
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Post ID: 413885by DocHollywood » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:56 PM PST
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An apple is not an orange. Dudley's acute knee problem is nothing like Caron's chronic whatever. Btw, what injury did Caron have for two whole seasons? LOL Please share, then explain how Caron overachieved while Dudley is underachieving. This should be good....

                
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Post ID: 413886by clipperboy24 » Nov 13, 2013 - 08:56 PM PST
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For sure we need to see more but the injury excuse could literally have been used for Caron his entire 2 years.

                
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Post ID: 413888by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:00 PM PST
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Don't really think so, but that's great then that the FO signed a gimpy player from the get go....smart, lol.

Caron's best days were behind him when we gave him that 3 year deal. Last really good full year was with the Wizards way back when.

                
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Post ID: 413889by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:21 PM PST
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Dude is old and washed up not "injured".

                
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Post ID: 413891by pageC4 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:23 PM PST
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The Caron Butler signing is tricky to evaluate though. When we signed him he was one of the few willing to come here given Sterlings reputation and the standing of the Clippers. At that time we really only had a young core to attract players. We only had the promise of three rising stars: Gordon, Griffin, and Jordan. I remember at the time he was not high on many peoples list as the SF we should sign, but progress comes incrementally some times. That entails signing players like Caron who are not top tier, but will make somewhat of an impact. After the Clippers signed CP3 things changed because we had a franchise player at his prime, and suddenly our signings like Caron and Billups didn't look all that great. As you correctly mentioned we got Caron at the decline of his career. I'm not privy to the Clippers front office discussions, no one here is. But I suspect that if the Clippers had their way back then we would have gotten a top tier SF like Iggy, Granger, or Iguodala. I'm sure the FO was well aware of where Caron stood in regard to his career at the time. Still, Caron and Billups were a different era. Things are so different now and that we have players in their prime wanting to come here. This last year was incredible to witness us nab Redick...huge deal.

                
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tense2
Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 413895by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:34 PM PST
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^I actually think Chauncey was a great pick up, particularly at the price we got him at. He chose to play out of his natural position which was what we needed at the time. Too bad he got hurt that year.

Wasn't that big on Caron, especially coming off that injury. Oh well

                
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Post ID: 413896by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:35 PM PST
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With one still ring less

                
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Post ID: 413898by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:36 PM PST
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Ah, back to your old tricks again. Nice try.

                
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Post ID: 413902by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:39 PM PST
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Back at yea lol

                
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tense2
Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 413904by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:40 PM PST
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^what was the Poll count again....

                
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Post ID: 413908by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:47 PM PST
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Lol a poll from fellow clippers fans hahahahaha keep reaching.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 413910by jarca » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:48 PM PST
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Stop trying to hijack this thread tense with CP talk lol.

                
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Post ID: 413914by tense2 » Nov 13, 2013 - 09:53 PM PST
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If you couldn't convince the fellow clipper fans, I would have love to see your logic against other "experts".

                
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Post ID: 414233by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 14, 2013 - 12:50 AM PST
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70% of "experts" picked Paul as the best PG in the league in espn polls. Try again. If Parker comes with the best PF ever, the best small market FO ever and a top 5 coach ever I will pick him but otherwise no thanks not even close but hey look at the bright side I think Skip Bayless agrees with you.lol

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414246by clipperboy24 » Nov 14, 2013 - 01:00 AM PST
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So Dudley was not horrible, still bad decisions on D, but how about reggie? He looked pretty good out there, pretty clearly deserves more minutes.

                
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Post ID: 414249by tense2 » Nov 14, 2013 - 01:01 AM PST
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Yes he did/does. Now we'll see if Doc agrees.

                
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Post ID: 414253by jarca » Nov 14, 2013 - 01:11 AM PST
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You got hooked on tense bait. Reason he brought up CP on a thread about Dudley is to bring back up from CP fans lol

                
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Post ID: 414277by DocHollywood » Nov 14, 2013 - 01:54 AM PST
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Reggie played hard and certainly shows potential. He knows his handle has always been his biggest weakness, so hopefully he's started to show some improvement in practice. Notice how he NEVER puts the ball on the floor for more than one or two dribbles? He avoided dribbling at UNC too. If he gets himself a decent handle and finds his shot, EVENTUALLY I could see him giving Barnes a run for bench minutes since Matt has never been a great shooter.

                
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Post ID: 414279by toohipcliptoslip » Nov 14, 2013 - 02:08 AM PST
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"No rookies on the wood" Don Nelson. Doc may as policy not use rookies much.??? He also made rookie mistakes.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414286by Icecoldclipper » Nov 14, 2013 - 03:45 AM PST
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Solid game like that he kept trying harder as game went on.

                
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Post ID: 414297by clipperboy24 » Nov 14, 2013 - 09:27 AM PST
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Now you're coming around Smile agree that he needs to improve his dribbling. I just love what he brings to the boards and defense

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414303by Icecoldclipper » Nov 14, 2013 - 09:39 AM PST
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The rebound drawn foul on Thabeet was a sweet sight.

                
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Post ID: 414319by tense2 » Nov 14, 2013 - 10:37 AM PST
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No, just to compare your logic...if you can call it that. Wink

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414859by Clipperfan9 » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:09 AM PST
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I'm not one to stab a dead cat, but 0 points tonight from Mr. Superhands - nice

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414865by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:14 AM PST
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He has been awful tbh. Hopefully he plays up to his normal level soon. Its pretty clear he is still injured but how long will it take for him to recover?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414869by LobAngelesBlakers » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:16 AM PST
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looking back at the offseason and the interviews he did, I think he oversold and is underperforming. He really hyped his IQ and intangibles. He does impact the game, but he has a very weak stat line for a starting 3.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414875by jarca » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:20 AM PST
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Gomes once had the infamous stat of 0 points, 0 rebound, and 0 assist after playing 21 mins. Dudley posted 1 rebound, 1 assist, and 0 points in 24 mins.

Like I said Gomes 2.0

Waiting for tense to post advance stats

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414878by tense2 » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:23 AM PST
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Can't disagree right now in this small sample size of 10 games, particularly the last few. Let's hope the next 10 games it will be a deferent story.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414879by LobAngelesBlakers » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:24 AM PST
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I can understand playing barnes as a backup to even out the talent, but he is seriously outperforming in limited minutes. I am just glad to see that the past few games they are even on minutes (both playing 25ish).

This team has never had a legit starting 3 for some reason, but this era of players doesn't really focus on the 3 much.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414881by Voyeur » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:27 AM PST
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Yeah I was not the biggest fan of Butler, but even he would drive to the basket and throw one down every now and then when his shot wasn't going in. C'mon Dudley, I know you can do better!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414885by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:35 AM PST
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Unless the tendonitis continues to be a lingering issue he should be fine. I am worried about how long it will take for him to recover however.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414887by Icecoldclipper » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:37 AM PST
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A concern is his awareness on the court seems to be off. I remember one thing that was talked about was that he was suppose to be a smart crafty player on the floor. Maybe the injury is limiting him on how much he can do so if that's the case he should shut it down for a few games. There is no point dragging out a injury if that truly is the reason for his play.

One more thing DJ and Dudley need to juice up add some more muscle.

                
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Post ID: 414889by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 12:43 AM PST
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Its more like his mobility is shot than awareness. He moves in slow motion at times. Wouldn't mind having him shut it down for a few games but I doubt it will happen.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414906by EwanB » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:03 AM PST
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I know it's early in the season and his role isn't meant to be putting up big numbers, but seriously, 0 point, 1 rebound, 1 assist in 24 minutes? Not sure if injury is still bothering him or what but give more minutes to Barnes and Bullock. Dud just isn't performing well enough to be worthy of 27 minutes a game

                
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Post Subject: RE: Jared Dudley Performance Discussion Thread Post ID: 414907by CapsNClips » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:09 AM PST
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He has been Jared DUDley for us so far. As long as he gets it together by all star break I'll be happy.

                
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