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FightOnRon
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We made the cut for dissapoinments Not all of the surprises in the 2013-14 season's first two weeks have been positive. Today, let's complement Monday's list of surprises with the most disappointing performances thus far. The East's top tier The West was expected to have the upper hand in the interconference battle -- and so far it has won 63.3 percent of all East-West matchups (19-11) -- but more because of its depth and the lottery-bound teams at the bottom of the East....

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Agreed. Can someone who understands defense break down what is going on?

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There's nothing really to break down. What you witness during the game is pure an utter chaos on defense. Our guys are constantly going up against mismatches on defense. When your PG or SG is guarding the big guy in the paint, that's a problem. We also seem to not be able to play solid man defense, which is allowing for easy give and go's, or quick cuts to the paint to look like textbook plays for the opposition. Fact is, CP3....

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When your PG or SG is guarding the big guy in the paint, that's a problem. We also seem to not be able to play solid man defense, which is allowing for easy give and go's, or quick cuts to the paint to look like textbook plays for the opposition. .
Perfect example,Willie guarding LeBron ....

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I think we need to give it time. The starters D is fine, it cane get better but is 10th in the league right now. The bench is just atrocious on D. Still wondering why we signed BOTH Mullins and Jamison, and not one and a noted defender instead. ....

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Yeah, they're professions, but it's not something that happens overnight. I like what I'm hearing, especially from Blake. Sounds like they understand the concepts Doc is coaching, and there are times in practice it's apparently perfect. But it takes time in real game situations. I look forward to when they finally have it all together. ....

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Starters are doing fine defensively. They are doing good even but the bench is atrocious. Our bench is the worst bench in the league in terms of D. ....

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I had a feeling when we traded Bledsoe we were going to have problems creating turnovers. I had no idea we were that bad. 20th after leading the league in turnovers forced last year? That's a problem. No on besides CP3 is able to force a turnover. ....

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I'm not sure forcing TO's is a big problem. We led the league last year but stunk on toast overall on D in the playoffs. Teams like San Antonio are so solid defensively without necessarily having to force turnovers it works very well for them in the post season. As much as I loved those fast break off turnovers, I think I prefer a more solid defense. Both would be ideal, but still... As far as others forcing TO's. Blocks count,....

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Our defense was season that revolved off forcing turnovers was not a very good one and collapsed in the playoffs and down the stretch. ....

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agreed.. we thrived off of turnovers last year, but didn't really have a good set halfcourt defense. That is what Doc is trying to build, and I actually see progress. I see Blake and DJ out there trying to make the proper rotations. It just happens that we are still a few steps slow, especially on "helping the helper." It's going to take a while to learn, but we'll be better for it. Now about that bench.. that's a whole other....

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After reading about KG, I am so glad Donald T decided not to trade DJ for KG. (I never thought I would start a sentence "I am so glad Donald T...") ....

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Starters are doing fine defensively. They are doing good even but the bench is atrocious. Our bench is the worst bench in the league in terms of D.
Yup, they don't dig deep enough. Clippers starters are the 9th ranked defense and still aren't gelled. It's the bench destroying our D. ....

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There is nothing wrong with our defense. We play in the west We have played some of the best offensive teams in the league so far in 8 games we have played 5 of the top 10 offensive teams Our pace is way up over last year so we are going to give up more points but as Doc said the opp fg% is steadily declining we just have to improve our situational defense I'm at the point where I'm no longer interested in....

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ClipsGForce
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^I agree with fullcourt!

Defense will be fine in the end of season. I believe in Doc.

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There is nothing wrong with our defense. We play in the west We have played some of the best offensive teams in the league so far in 8 games we have played 5 of the top 10 offensive teams Our pace is way up over last year so we are going to give up more points but as Doc said the opp fg% is steadily declining we just have to improve our situational defense I'm at the point where I'm no longer interested in....

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Agreed. Can someone who understands defense break down what is going on?
Let me start off by saying that I'm not a basketball coach or anything, but here are my $0.02 Transition D - This is the area we struggle at most. Our guys do not run back hard enough on defense, and we're often faced with a 3 on 1 or 3 on 2 fast break. Even if we get the initial stop, they have more guys for....

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I'd say someone passed this article around during the half time last night and they took it to heart to prove it wrong. ....

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Technically the Heat have struggled more on defense as they were 28th I believe and they were a finals team, a better defensive team than LAC and have more known defensive guys. Now that doesn't mean the Clippers haven't struggled, but I think a team that already had the same coach, the same system, same chemistry, has had success, definitely has a better case of being a bigger disappointment in terms of defense. Their baseline expectation was already much higher. ....

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The clips haven't put up a whole game effort on d. We saw this last night. 62 pts to the thunder in the first half, only 41 in the second half. ....

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The clips haven't put up a whole game effort on d. We saw this last night. 62 pts to the thunder in the first half, only 41 in the second half.
I think that is because they are still learning the system so it hasn't become second nature yet, so concentration can slip. As it become more instinctual it will be more consistent. ....

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we've only lost 3 games and two of those should have been wins, the Lakers and the Orlando Magic.everyone seems to forget, we use to lose a lot of close games and that isn't happening this year so far.I've watched or been at all the games and we still aren't firing on all 8 cylinders most of the time on defense a couple of times on offense we have hence the big scores. Our bench hasn't had Collison and Matt....

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^ We also would never have won a game last year against Golden State with Curry hitting 9 three pointers. ....

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^ We also would never have won a game last year against Golden State with Curry hitting 9 three pointers.
On the flip side we shouldn't lose a game with Paul basically having a historically good game. I believe 40ppg+/15assists+/5stl+ has never been recorded before(though steals were introduced as a stat relatively recently). ....

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Read Mullens, Hollins

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I can't really say Mullens and Hollins are the biggest disappointment for the reason that they were already low end NBA players. Mullens had been by every count, tangible or intangible a bad NBA player so far, so his baseline was already to be kind of bad. He's not actually underachieving his historical NBA impact / talent level on a good team, he's just not overachieving it, so by that definition, I don't know if he's a disappointment. I guess he's....

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