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Post ID: 414568by Voyeur » Nov 16, 2013 - 03:32 PM PST
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Yeah, no offense to Doc, who is great but his excuse smells like bullsh!t.



                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414580by fullcourt » Nov 16, 2013 - 04:17 PM PST
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Jamison imo is an adjustment piece for end of the season and playoff use in certain situational matchups .

Doc has said on more than one occasions that he hasn't made many adjustments choosing instead to see his base sets on both ends and how teams choose play them. He said that he didn't change anything at halftime against OKC we just kept doing the same thing we did in the first half only better. Why does he have to show all his cards in the first two weeks of the season ?

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414585by ClipsGForce » Nov 16, 2013 - 04:45 PM PST
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People who doubting Docs should stop. He does not need to show anything. There is a reason he have a championship. He's not Vinny Del Negro. Trust in Docs.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414587by elton_sucks42 » Nov 16, 2013 - 04:50 PM PST
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It's pretty hilarious that a cracked out Lamar odom is much better than a healthy non cracked out mullens and Hollins.

Lamar was on the pipe last year as well? He played some great defense and rebounding. Bring him back to play 15-20 minutes a game. We just need to give DJ a breather.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414591by ClippersRise » Nov 16, 2013 - 05:03 PM PST
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He's rich, I'm pretty sure if he was on hard drugs it was coke, not crack. Cocaine is a rich mans drug anyway... not that any of them are good. He's definitely not a crack head.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414593by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 16, 2013 - 06:03 PM PST
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This is how this whole thing breaks down

We had already brought in JJ , Jared , Doc , and other free-agents! We needed to fill that spot at the PF position! Are number 1 option was Lamar Odom then Antawn Jamison! Lamar had that run-in with TMZ about the camera and we were waiting for that to clear up , but yet it got worse!

The drugs accusations, missing for days, and other things therefore we had to move on to our second option which was Antawn Jamison! We brought in Mullens and Jamison but Mullens didn't turn out to be what we thought and hasn't meet his expected upside yet and maybe never will ( He May Be A Bust , You Shouldn't Be 7 Foot and Have A Game With 0 Rebounds )

Now Doc sees that it isn't workoing out and Lamar and Front Office Brass have met up about reunion! If Lamar wanted to be a Laker , Don't you think he would meet with them first? Lamar wants to be a Clippers! He loves the organization and wants to be a part of it!

Lamar Odom last season ( Drugs or Not ) averaged 4 points 6 rebounds 1 block with a PER of 10.95

Byron Mullens and Hollins combined average 6 points 3 rebounds 1 block with PERs of 9.85 ( Hollins ) and 6.35 ( Mullens ) And Jamison hasn't even registered any minutes yet according to ESPN

Now at that PF position we can possibly get our 1st and 2nd option!!!! Depth Chart

PG - Paul - Collison - Wayns SG - Redick - Crawford - Green SF - Dudley - Barnes - Bullock PF - Griffin - Odom - Jamison C - Jordan - Hollins - Mullens

Now if we still want to sure up that backup C position we can make a trade after December 15th or something!

Is it possible we can send Mullens to the D-League to leave an open roster spot for say a bought out Emeka Okafor or another C or does Mullens still take up a roster spot if sent to D-League?

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414595by Icecoldclipper » Nov 16, 2013 - 06:12 PM PST
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Odom mentioned how much he loved LA when he was traded to Dallas. Reason he asked to be traded from the Lakers is because he felt so betrayed by the Lakers for trying to deal him to New Orleans in the original Chris paul deal. Look at his mental state in Dallas and look at the physical state when we were the one team that gave him a chance. Many reporters have talked about Odoms love for the Lakers and he even talked about the culture of the Laker when he was here. He doesn't need to be playing ball this year and the reason he has slimmed down so much should strongly be considered and attached the huge drug use over the past couple of months or so.

Think this team will make the right move and say thanks but no thanks to Lamar Odom. The team has to look harder and something will become available.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414598by Icecoldclipper » Nov 16, 2013 - 06:26 PM PST
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Is this even the best move for him if he is trying to rebuild his life? Shouldn't he be with friends and family trying to fix personal issues rather than being on the road? Its beyond basketball on whatever he does better than Mullens and Hollins.

                
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Post ID: 414600by tense2 » Nov 16, 2013 - 06:35 PM PST
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Sending Mullins to the D-league still counts toward the roster spot. Plus Mullins being a 3+ years guy in the league the team will need his and the unions permission to be sent down. Don't think it happens.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414605by WinningBasket » Nov 16, 2013 - 07:58 PM PST
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I was watching NBA TV and our announcer, Mike Smith, was being interviewed and subsequently asked about Lamar. Mike said that Lamar showed up to practice on Friday which turned into the media-reported 2-hour meeting with Doc and Co. after the practice. So it seems that Lamar took the initiative to show up to Clippers practice which tells me he's pretty darn serious about making a comeback. I really hope he is well, both mentally and physically, to be the asset the team needs. But after a tumultuous off-season, he really has to show Clipper brass he has made a complete turnaround. Not sure how that can be done in such a relatively short amount of time.

                
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"I really hope he is well, both mentally and physically, to be the asset the team needs. But after a tumultuous off-season, he really has to show Clipper brass he has made a complete turnaround. Not sure how that can be done in such a relatively short amount of time."

Its a good point the timescale is pretty short for a proper recovery.

                
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Just saw Doc's pregame press conference. He seemed to downplay the meeting. Says he saw Lamar practicing and wanted to talk to him. Said he looks trim and in shape but at the same time that 'doesn't really mean anything'. Said he wanted to talk to Lamar in order to "get ahead" of things. Not sure exactly what that means.

                
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Post ID: 414612by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:11 PM PST
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I swear Doc shut the whole Lamar thing down haha! I liked how he handled it though! There is obviously more to it! Doc says I have always had interest in him but the meeting was "just" so I could see him! Meetings to just see people don't last 2 hours folks * In My Ralph Lawler Voice *

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414621by JahvonTheClip » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:38 PM PST
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http://omg.yahoo.com/news/lamar-odom-re ... eekly.html

Well this is strange

                
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Post ID: 414622by Silasie » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:43 PM PST
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Is it strange? If the deal is done they have the scoop and if not they are up to the normal journalist BS.

                
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Post ID: 414627by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:51 PM PST
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Its YaHoo and they are usually reliable but I will believe when Adrian Woj. Reports it

                
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It's weird because that report is 3 hours ago and the Doc interview was more recent. Article might have jumped to conclusions.

                
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Post ID: 414635by Silasie » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:55 PM PST
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Wow, so it could be a done deal? I didn't take it seriously at all really.

                
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Post ID: 414636by Silasie » Nov 16, 2013 - 08:58 PM PST
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Is an journalist jumping to conclusions really weird? In England that is normal practise.

                
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Yeah I'm really skeptical of that. Or may its a foregone conclusion at this point i don't know

                
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This reminds me of the Phil Jackson interview when he said that when Lamar played on his team, Lamar had to be coaxed back into game shape prior to the start of the season. Lamar would evidently spend the off-season not working out and going on a deep bender. Whether it was an emotional tailspin or drug-induced stupor, we don't know for sure, but his behavior this past summer falls in line with some emotional and psychological pain he hasn't fully addressed with any permanent success. I really hope he's on his way to full recovery this time.

                
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I change my mind. I put no.... But I think he fills a need.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414909by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 17, 2013 - 08:09 AM PST
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We all know we could use Lamar! Defense and Rebounding! But wouldn't this be the best time to acquire or resign Lamar? Would he be hungrier this year to redeem himself from this summer?

                
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For me the question is no longer would we give LO a second chance but Is Doc going to give him a second chance? Is the deal done? Is it just a media rumor based on the meeting? Is it in the process?

We should find pretty soon I s'pose.

                
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Post ID: 414911by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 17, 2013 - 09:00 AM PST
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From what I have heard the deal should be done soon, I imagine Monday or Tuesday! I heard the league has to review over all the things that happened this summer and I imagine he needs to be drug tested!? After all that is clear the deal should be done and Lamar will be a Clipper once again!

                
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I'm shocked but if they think he's got his head together, it sure couldn't hurt to add a big to the bench.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414923by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 17, 2013 - 11:53 AM PST
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LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS NEWS Report: Meeting between Doc Rivers and Lamar Odom went well By lovinglosangeles @JorgeClipper on Nov 17 2013, 9:48a

According to Broderick Turner of the LA Times, the meeting between Doc Rivers and Lamar Odom went well and Lamar has said the Clippers are the only team for which he would play.

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"It really was I just wanted to see him physically and see how he was doing," Rivers said. "He looked good. He looked great. He looked like his weight was way down and in good shape. But that doesn't mean a lot." Odom has said the Clippers are the only team he would play for, according to NBA executives who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter. If the Clippers offer Odom a contract, it would be for the veteran's minimum of about $883,000, the executives said. According to a report by Broderick Turner of the LA Times, the Clippers are the only team that Lamar Odom will sign with.

As ClipsNation writer lovinglosangeles shared with us earlier, Broderick Turner had a report this morning regarding yesterday's meeting between the Clippers and Lamar Odom.

According to Turner, Clippers head coach and VP of Basketball Operations Doc Rivers confirmed the club's interest in Odom. Rivers had some praise for the veteran forward: "I've always had interest in him [...] I've always liked him. The teams he has played on, the coaches who have coached him have always liked him... I hadn't seen him. I just wanted to see him."

The key nugget of Turner's report is that according to one of Turner's sources, the Clippers are the only team that Lamar Odom is interested in playing for. This suggests that a signing is coming soon, as the Clippers desperately need a backup big man.

The Clippers' current backup big men, Byron Mullens and Ryan Hollins, have been major liabilities on the season. Mullens has only shot 26% from deep (lower than his already low career average) while managing less than 8 rebounds per 36 minutes and turning the ball over at an alarming rate for a backup big man (3.4 per 36).

So there is the latest on the Lamar situation! He said he only want to play for the Clippers! We treated him like family when he was here and that is what Lamar needs! Several players and even Ralph Lawler reached out to Lamar over the summer and he realizes how much we love him!

                
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Post ID: 414954by toohipcliptoslip » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:06 PM PST
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Most of my Jewish friends use the expression JAP, (Jewish American Princess) and make JAP jokes. there are also BAPs Black American Princesses, MAPs Mexican American Princesses. I have never heard anyone take offense at this but if you are offended - sorry. The term Princess refers to a spoiled self indulgent woman of any CULTURE- NOT RACE. Every culture has princesses and they all act the same way. Put a bag over their heads and over their diamonds and you wouldn't know which culture they came from. They act identically. Let's just say the Kardassians are Princesses. I'll leave off the Armenian. Old timers know that I do not make racist comments

Sorry if you were offended

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 414955by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:17 PM PST
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^If anything your post sounds more sexist than racist Wink.

                
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Post ID: 414956by toohipcliptoslip » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:17 PM PST
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True in general but not always

You may be too young to remember when rich Richard Pryor set himself on fire lighting his crack pipe.

                
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Post ID: 414957by toohipcliptoslip » Nov 17, 2013 - 03:21 PM PST
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YES!

You guys obviously have never dated a princess but back to the topic with a non guaranteed contract and weekly drug testing and therapy documented why not? Ten day or non guaranteed should work. He may play better. Sometimes when you have a guilty secret like using drugs confession is good for the soul. Crack may be harder to get since scumbag crack dealers aren't in Beverly Hills

                
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Post ID: 414994by realbull17 » Nov 17, 2013 - 11:09 PM PST
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i guess LO7 coming back to LAC. according to TMZ. Sad

                
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Post ID: 415017by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 18, 2013 - 06:40 AM PST
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No its according to Lamar himself in that TMZ video http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_9t2hqpbp/

                
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Post ID: 415018by Silasie » Nov 18, 2013 - 06:51 AM PST
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Well he was asked if he was re-signing with the Clips and he said "yeah". I wouldn't call that conclusive cos it was kind of "yeah get out of my face I am tryng to get on a plane".

But it is sounding more likley and I have to say I am excited. Maybe it is not wise to sign him but if he can give us what we got last season the team just got a lot better.

                
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If LO does sign and plays at least to the level of last season that is an upgrade over mullens/hollins, guy has got crazy length and the bball IQ of a PG in a PF body, his issues outside of the court is discerning but it is what it is

                
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Post ID: 415028by clipperboy24 » Nov 18, 2013 - 11:11 AM PST
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It would be a huge upgrade in our backup big rebounding and defense! I like it a lot. Wasn't too hot on the idea when all the crack news came out but man we need the defense and the boards!

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 415031by CP3Best » Nov 18, 2013 - 11:14 AM PST
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WHat do people have against Hollins? He's good defensively, and he makes his free throws and he makes plays offensively around the rim. Doesn't anyone remember how LO shot 3/20 last year??? Mullens is picking it up now too, Forget Odom!

                
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Post ID: 415035by Silasie » Nov 18, 2013 - 11:25 AM PST
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Hollins is a bit of a foul machine which is not really good defense.

You say forget Odom but there is a good chance the deal is either done or being done so forgetting may well not be an option. Mullens has been really bad, yes he is picking up a bit but we don't know if that will last.

                
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yahoo says the deal is done. at least he won't come in over weight!

                
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i actually re read the article. its not done yet, but close.

my fault.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 415053by 06clippersfan » Nov 18, 2013 - 01:27 PM PST
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The Clippers bench will be A LOT better now. The bench defense is HORRIBLE. IF LO comes back and plays defense like he did last year we will be a tough team to beat. Throughout the first 10 games, I don't think the bench has been able to maintain the lead if they had one. Which is the reason why the Clippers have been in so many close games this year. LO will help a lot on defense and this is a great move by the front office.

Hopefully he does have all his other issues under control.

                
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Post ID: 415054by jarca » Nov 18, 2013 - 01:36 PM PST
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Our bigs are picking it up lately. Odom is an insurance policy like Jamison for match up purposes in the playoff

                
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Post ID: 415056by pageC4 » Nov 18, 2013 - 01:47 PM PST
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i made the same mistake a few days ago, and it was due to that yahoo article. My apologies to Clippersfan86, whom i mistakenly told we had signed Odom

                
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Post ID: 415062by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 18, 2013 - 02:14 PM PST
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Odom is better than Hollins or Mullens so I wouldn't call him an insurance polity.

I guess our backup bigs are playing a bit better but a bit better than turd is still only a bit better than turd. Lets be honest here. Hollins and Mullens are ultra foul prone. Mullens bricks way more shots than he makes and gives the opposing team free layups.

                
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@WojYahooNBA: Free agent Lamar Odom is working out with elite trainer Rob McClanaghan in Rhode Island this week, sources tell Yahoo Sports.

@WojYahooNBA: Odom was photographed on URI's campus today. McClanaghan and Odom have been working out in URI's practice facility, witnesses said.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 415075by CapsNClips » Nov 18, 2013 - 04:22 PM PST
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This is good news and shows that he's serious.

                
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Post Subject: RE: L.A. Teams Continue to Monitor Lamar and Would Consider Post ID: 415077by ClipperKyle32 » Nov 18, 2013 - 05:01 PM PST
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As his NBA comeback bid gathers momentum, troubled free agent Lamar Odom has traveled to Rhode Island to work out with renowned superstar trainer, Rob McClanaghan, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Lamar Odom played for the Clippers last season. (USA Today) Odom recently met with Los Angeles Clippers officials to discuss a possible third stop with the franchise, and is working out daily with McClanaghan in the Ryan Center on campus in Kingston, R.I. The Rhode Island basketball team is on the road in Arizona for the Preseason NIT. Odom's professional and personal life had hit significant turbulence in recent years, spiraling with arrests and bouts with substance addiction.

McClanaghan has several superstar clients, including Chicago's Derrick Rose, Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant, Minnesota's Kevin Love and Golden State's Stephen Curry. McClanaghan lives in Rhode Island.

Odom, 34, was arrested on a DUI charge in August in Los Angeles, and his tumultuous marriage to reality TV star, Khloe Kardashian, has made him a staple of tabloid news.

Odom posed for pictures on campus with students and staff on Monday. He played one year of basketball at the University of Rhode Island in the 1998-99 season.

This is a hungry Lamar Odom!!!!!! I AM ALL FOR HIS RESIGNING WITH THE CLIPPERS!!! And HAVE BEEN SINCE THIS SUMMER

                
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I must admit though I don't know if it is a good idea or not I am sold. I want him to re-sign. In a play off rotation he can be the 1 back up big and in the regular season we need some decent defense and rebounds to mix up with our 3rd stringers.

                
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Post ID: 415087by jarca » Nov 18, 2013 - 06:38 PM PST
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Supposed to be. Odom was rather useless in offense and couldn't hit free last year

                
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I think Odom is compliment to Mullens. I think those two will work well together.

                
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