Clippers Vs. Grizzlies Official Game Thread 2013-11-18 (P. 7)

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Clippersfan86
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This game shows just how far we are from being true title contenders. Sure Memphis is a very good team, poses problems for us.. and it's just one game. But the fact that we came out so nonchalant and with poor focus from opening tip after the embarrassment they gave us come playoff time? Shows a lack of character, toughness, heart. They shouldn't need any more motivation than a reverse sweep by double digits every game. If they can't be motivated and fired up vs Memphis what will it take?

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That play was so busted we needed a quick deep look.

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I feel like winning this game. Redick will hit the GW

Clippersfan86
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You know how down 4 with 19 seconds.. without the ball works right? It's never happened in NBA history.

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After a series of plays, I mean. lol I'm not dumb bro.

ps: after that Z Bo basket.. I give up

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Yeah even last game, Blake and JJ didn't get much help. This game kinda shows what happens when those guys aren't as big a factor. Needs to be a wake up call for the WHOLE team!

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So much fail....

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I was just trying to be super optimistic by saying that. Of course that was not going to happen.

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We could of used that earlier Jamal

Clippersfan86
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Do you guys still think I'm panicking too much about Paul shooting 30 percent every game lately? A few more wide open hits from him= win. Role players like Crawford and Redick can be expected to struggle.. CP3 shouldn't be struggling 6 games in a row.

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Yes. Loss sucks, but he'll get it together.

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I am more concerned about Dudley not finding ways to impact the game

Icecoldclipper
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Think we should of got our bigs more involved in quick pick and rolls and Paul giving up the ball. This is a jump shooting team to a fault. Doc had slow rotations and this team has a long way to go.

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The only good thing to take from this is how consistent Dj with rebounds, particularly offensive rebs. Also Blake's proving that he's the best player in this team for the past couple of games, refs made horrible calls tonight for blake.

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Dudley doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Anything we get from a 7th or 8th scoring option is usually a bonus. We CANNOT have main guys like Paul/Crawford/Redick struggling, especially all 3 in the same game!

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I don't care if Mullens made 2 threes this game... He is not consistent, has no post game, has low IQ, and no defense and rebounding.

I blame Doc kinda, he left Mullens In too long in the fourth. I blame our backup bigs they suck d**k.

Well, hopefully Doc learned how we matchup against the Grizzlies for next time. We need to consistently get the ball out of Gasols hand.

PS. Our starting guards were off as ****, you can't beat Memphis without good shooting. Our 3 point percentage was terrible tonight. Hopefully this won't happen again

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He's not rebounding and a step behind on rotation.

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Wow Jarron Collins is on the postgame

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I've been concerned about CP3's poor shooting also. I wonder if he suffered an unpublicized injury somewhere that's impairing his shooting. The team used to be able to fall back on his shooting when others were not shooting well. Hopefully this is only a slump he'll break free from.

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We need Redick and Dudley to score more. Not enough good looks at 3s tonight.

AirGriffin
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And Chris Payl really needs to work on his 3s. He needs to hit a lot more a game and be way more aggressive offensively against the Memphis.

Difference between this clips team and last years is that our starting bigs are much better and we have Doc. If CP could've been more aggressive tonight we would've won. For once our starting bigs did pretty well tonight, at least Griffin did more so than DJ

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That is my theory. He needs to address this. It sucks we are now behind gsw, they will be tough to catch.

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i am not to worried about shot %. I am worried about not playing aggressive all game, i am worried about CP and BG passing up shots or not even looking at the rim, Those 2 players should always be in attack mode. I am most worried about a lack of defensive principle and rules, like someone said earlier it may take Doc some time to help the guys but man i hurts me to watch some of the simplest mistakes. Wish we could bring in a defensive wing player and a big body that can clog the lane and take charges.

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Why in the hell did we trade Zbo to a freaking western conference team!?! Same thing with Bledsoe I never understood why teams do that. I know the Clippers had to move him for Blake but why to a fellow conference. We made this pain in the ass Grizz team.

Loss killed my vibe was happy after Panthers won.

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Better be a wake up call for Clips!!

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Rebounding wasn't the problem tonight. Offense and defense was.

ClippersDA
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Grizzlies have our number, will be tough to beat them. I wAnt Chris to speak about how off he has been in terms is his shot.

tense2
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Because Memphis was the only who wanted him and that contract.

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oh and the commentators brought this up and its true, it looks as though we are just looking for jump shots

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Can't fault the Clips for that. Grizz was the only team willing to give a shot.

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The refs have got to allow Blake to play good defense. Tonight really was ridiculous and I don't usually resort to blaming refs. It's not ALL their fault, but you handcuff Blake against THESE guys? You pretty much handcuff the team.

I have to admit, Blake didn't seem AS engaged as he usually does, yet he still managed 23 points, 11 rebounds, 2 steals and a block...also the best +/- of the team at +8!

Wake up call for Paul. I get it. He's doing all the other things. Passing. Stealing. Rebounding. Drawing fouls. And I've said all along that, ideally, it's best if he's scoring 16-20 points a game and letting others do a majority of the scoring. But we need him to be A scoring threat drawing more attention. We need him to drive to the basket also. He doesn't have to spot up for three, but hit those mid-range shots that are his specialty.

I'm not gonna complain too much about JJ and Jamal. Off night for them. I don't think we'll see them have a lot of these. I wish they wouldn't have it at the SAME time, but hopefully that will be more rare this season.

Disappointing. Especially against this team. But we must suck it up and drive on!

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We needed this win

Seven of our next nine games against playoff teams.

We have had a brutal schedule as of now...im good with a 7-4 record considering it.

Our schedule will lighten up.

Icecoldclipper
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Games like these we got to get non scorers going early. Dj and Dudley have to get ten shots up each by the half.

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Strong post game interview by Doc made me feel a little better.

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Ref ball lost us the game. Why do we still get NO respect from the refs, outside of cp3

tense2
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Not really, the team lost the game tonight.

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We should of used Dudley more to trap the big .

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Chris Paul is a good shooter- he'll get it together. I just don't like him losing his confidence and not taking some of those open looks lately. The Clippers need him to attack from the get go, put pressure on the opposing defense right away.

This game also demonstrated what happens when the opponent doesn't let the Clippers shoot open 3's. Memphis closed out hard against Clipper 3 point shooters, forcing them to drive/take the mid-range, and the result was not good. When they did get open looks, they couldn't convert many. JJ Redick 1 for 7 from deep- that's just not going to get it done. Imagine if he had hit just 1 more 3....

The coaching staff must come up with a counter vs teams that force the Clipper shooting guard/small forward to drive. I'm sure more teams will be playing the Clippers this way.

Defensively, obviously way too much fouling. The Clippers were caught fouling cutters much too often. Memphis is a very unselfish team, so I'm not so sure if double-teaming is the answer. It might be a good move here and there to surprise them, but I don't think it will work on a consistent basis.

Blake Griffin had another very good game. Too bad he got into foul trouble and if he had hit just 1 more of those jumpers.... Excellent effort by him overall, however.

DeAndre Jordan- not a bad game but not a good game either. 16 rebounds but lost several of those key boards that were maddeningly IN HIS FINGERS. He simply cannot allow that to happen so many times vs Memphis.

The bench, unlike the stellar one from last season, struggled again, and was hugely responsible for the Clippers going down by 7 after the game was tied to start the 4th.

Back to the drawing board for a better game plan vs the Grizz as Memphis continues to frustrate the Clippers.

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It's not too late to tank...this is a loaded draft!

Hire Kim Hughes as head coach, Mike Dunleavy as asst, sign Tricky Ricky and B-Diddy.

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I thought Blake was downright unstoppable in the paint early on in the game. Seems we stopped going to that strategy. As long as Memphis did a good job closing out against our shooters, that means less attention inside. I dunno...maybe we get THEIR bigs in foul trouble by going to Blake inside early and often.

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We need Odom, Mullens is soft and just rely his outside shooting which is not consistent.

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Yeah everyone played bad missing easy open shots but the good thingis our team kept fighting and we never get blowned out. Doc rivers was right we need to dictate the game not just follow what the other teams gonna do. Blake needs to dominate the game in the fourth not just the first half. I'd rather take this as a learning experience losing to regular season rather than sweeping them every game last years regular season but get swept in the playoffs.

Icecoldclipper
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The trapping on the perimeter in the first quarter was insanely bad. On double should come inside on the block and closing lanes.

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Sounds like a good strategy; go quick and hard to the hoop- Griffin is good at doing both of those. They're not doubling Blake, so why not? Attack inside early & create more open 3's later.

tense2
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Getting the open 3 wasn't the problem, getting them to go in the basket was. We out shot Memphis 23 to 12 in that dept.

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Exactly. Honestly, we act like we never beat this team before. But we've had a lot of success against them. A Blake ankle sprain and questionable decision playing Chauncey too much at least contributed to the playoff loss. But we used BG (and to some extent DJ) inside on these guys and won many a game.

Still, I understand what Doc is trying to do with the Gentry offensive system. Maybe it just takes time.

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CP did score 18 on 14 FGA since he drew 9 FT's, so I don't know if his really counts so much

ClipsGForce
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Blake need to be decisive with his shot. He was wide open numerous time, but end up passing for a worst shot. Have some confidence Griffin!

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I wish Tony Allen didn't get ejected in hindsight. Pondexter was shutting us down and if Tony was in the game he would've taken some pretty bad shots that would be in our favor.

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Tony Allen was the third leading scorer for the Grizz against us in the playoffs last season, so I'm not so sure if it would have worked out better. But Pondexter did do a pretty good job defensively, though he did end up with a -8 in the +/- dept.

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