Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 (P. 2)

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gman
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That will not happen. The OKC darlings or the Memphis Grit and kick have the refs on their pocket.

Voyeur
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Make up call for Blake on that one. Blake looks a little sloppy on offense out there. Sleepy?

WinningBasket
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Kings keep on fighting back. C'mon, Clips --- keep this lead in double digits.

Clipperman#5
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Who invited this Dumb ASS Laker fan sitting there in Sect. 105 which is the baseline to the left of the Kings bench. The guy is sitting there wearing a Lakers warm up cheering & standing up to clap every time the Kings score?!?! I think he's there by himself too!!! Who does that???

JahvonTheClip
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Somebody with nothing to do

Voyeur
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I heard an official once blew his whistle by accident while Durant hit a shot during shootaround.

Voyeur
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Hmmm. Definitely not Blake's half.

gman
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Was he suspended by the league??

CP3Heliflopter
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Smfh Blake has been crap this game.

Voyeur
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I was joking. Razz

Silasie
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DJ hitting both FT. Go on DJ!!!

Icecoldclipper
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We should of been hitting Dudley in his spot or getting some cuts to the rim.

gman
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Hack-a-DJ 3/4 FTs for DJ. Rest of game 1/3. not bad.

gman
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So was I. I know you can not do that.... Surprised

catalyst
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Blake's got nothing working for him, 5 turnovers & 3 fouls

Voyeur
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Yeah, it's not so much the 0-3 for Blake. It's the sloppy play. 5 turnovers is awful. 8 trips to the line is good but he's not looking sharp at all. Not gonna be too hard on him yet because he's been so consistent so far and there's another half left. Plus, he just looks tired and lethargic. The fact he's +8 somehow is a testament to his importance on the court.

tense2
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^Meh with the +- stats there the lowest rung on the advanced stat ladder, lol.

CP3Heliflopter
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How the hell did we give up 35 points in the 2nd quarter?

Oh thats right TOs and allowing 2nd chance points :/.

tense2
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Bad D.

gman
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The second unit came in, Mullens was in, lost all the energy in which we startedthe game, Mullens played, gave confidence to the Kings, and TO's.

CP3Heliflopter
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No that is a testament to how useless of a stat + and - is. Way too situational.

That being said at least Blake is playing poorly in a game that we are up 9 in. I don't mind since he has played very well the past few games.

Voyeur
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Maybe for 1 game. But overall it's a stat that sometimes suggests more about a player than his points and rebounds.

tense2
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Not really good at that either. Much better tools in the advanced stat tool box for that.

Voyeur
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That "situation" being we achieve more points while he's on the court, even sloppy.

CP3Heliflopter
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Paul's 3 point shot looking sharp the past few games.

Voyeur
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Right. So theortically, if a guy ends the season with one of the best +/- all season long. It really doesn't mean anything. It couldn't possibly mean he's playing good defense that doesn't show up in the box score. It couldn't possibly mean he draws doubles allowing teammates wide open. It couldn't possibly mean they must be doing something right!

Got it. roll

Voyeur
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Why does JJ even try at the corners? I don't think he's hit from there all season.

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If Dudley can't give you more than 7 points a game, may as well start Willie Green...

tense2
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Investigate other tools and you'll see. roll

WinningBasket
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Oh boy. This is disgusting. Lead has been whittled down to 4. Dang.

Icecoldclipper
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Chris needs to start shooting or we will lose. Griffin needs to sit.

CP3Heliflopter
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So your saying Blake has been the best player on our team today since he has the highest +/-? Its not a useful stat even with a large sample size since there are many other stats that tell you a lot more.

Not saying its a completely meaningless stat rather there are way better stats. +/- doesn't even tell you who the best player on the team is nor does it tell anything about why that player has the highest +/-.

Voyeur
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Oh lawd Blake can't buy a bucket. I knew one of these games was coming! If both he and JJ aren't hitting, this could be rough.

Agent0
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The defense is looking awful

Voyeur
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Why? There's a perfectly good one just mentioned. Who are you to completely disregard a stat that was obviously created for some reason?

JahvonTheClip
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Blake needs some easy buckets to get his confidence up

Icecoldclipper
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Over passing

Icecoldclipper
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Griffin needs to move on screen

gman
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SAme play as the 1st half. This time it goes Griffins way.

tense2
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Whatever. Continue to hammer that nail in the "wall" with a screw driver:wink:

Voyeur
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No it doesn't mean he is the best player today. Nor did I say that.

JahvonTheClip
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Blake on the floor all the time. I could not do it

Voyeur
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Always a good comeback. Wink

CP3Heliflopter
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Plus and minus is not a useful stat. Not even when it comes to players on your own team and definitely not when it comes to comparing players on different teams.

http://basketballvalue.com/teamplayers. ... p;team=CHI

According to plus and minus stats Rose during his MVP season was far less valuable than Deng and Taj Gibson.

http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.p ... =2011-2012

According to plus and minus stats league wide Paul Millsap and Josh Smith were top 5 valuable players. Taj Gibson was a top 10 valuable player, etc.

See what I mean? Not a particularly useful stat by any means.

tense2
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Thank you.

CP3Heliflopter
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So we were up by 20 at one point right? This is embarrassing....

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Dj doing a good job staying down on cousins....he's improved

Agent0
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Blake took that three as if that was the designed play

Voyeur
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And these stats all indicate to me that those guys are all more important to their teams than even their box score stats might indicate. What part of this don't you understand?

I appreciate you taking the time from watching the game to post all that info though.

CP3Heliflopter
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I really wouldn't mind if he learned to shoot the corner 3.

Wow refs jobbed Bullock. That was not a charge....

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