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Post ID: 416372by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:36 PM PST
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That will not happen. The OKC darlings or the Memphis Grit and kick have the refs on their pocket.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416373by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:36 PM PST
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Make up call for Blake on that one. Blake looks a little sloppy on offense out there. Sleepy?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416374by WinningBasket » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:36 PM PST
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Kings keep on fighting back. C'mon, Clips --- keep this lead in double digits.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416375by Clipperman#5 » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:37 PM PST
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Who invited this Dumb ASS Laker fan sitting there in Sect. 105 which is the baseline to the left of the Kings bench. The guy is sitting there wearing a Lakers warm up cheering & standing up to clap every time the Kings score?!?! I think he's there by himself too!!! Who does that???

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416376by JahvonTheClip » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:38 PM PST
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Somebody with nothing to do

                
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Post ID: 416377by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:38 PM PST
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I heard an official once blew his whistle by accident while Durant hit a shot during shootaround.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416378by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:41 PM PST
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Hmmm. Definitely not Blake's half.

                
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Post ID: 416379by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:42 PM PST
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Was he suspended by the league??

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416380by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:42 PM PST
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Smfh Blake has been crap this game.

                
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I was joking. Razz

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416382by Silasie » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:44 PM PST
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DJ hitting both FT. Go on DJ!!!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416383by Icecoldclipper » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:46 PM PST
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We should of been hitting Dudley in his spot or getting some cuts to the rim.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416384by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:46 PM PST
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Hack-a-DJ 3/4 FTs for DJ. Rest of game 1/3. not bad.

                
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Post ID: 416385by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:47 PM PST
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So was I. I know you can not do that.... Surprised

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416386by catalyst » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:47 PM PST
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Blake's got nothing working for him, 5 turnovers & 3 fouls

                
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Yeah, it's not so much the 0-3 for Blake. It's the sloppy play. 5 turnovers is awful. 8 trips to the line is good but he's not looking sharp at all. Not gonna be too hard on him yet because he's been so consistent so far and there's another half left. Plus, he just looks tired and lethargic. The fact he's +8 somehow is a testament to his importance on the court.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416388by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:51 PM PST
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^Meh with the +- stats there the lowest rung on the advanced stat ladder, lol.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416389by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:51 PM PST
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How the hell did we give up 35 points in the 2nd quarter? Oh thats right TOs and allowing 2nd chance points :/.

                
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Post ID: 416390by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:51 PM PST
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Bad D.

                
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Post ID: 416391by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:53 PM PST
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The second unit came in, Mullens was in, lost all the energy in which we startedthe game, Mullens played, gave confidence to the Kings, and TO's.

                
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Post ID: 416392by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:53 PM PST
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No that is a testament to how useless of a stat + and - is. Way too situational. That being said at least Blake is playing poorly in a game that we are up 9 in. I don't mind since he has played very well the past few games.

                
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Post ID: 416393by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:54 PM PST
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Maybe for 1 game. But overall it's a stat that sometimes suggests more about a player than his points and rebounds.

                
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Post ID: 416394by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 03:57 PM PST
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Not really good at that either. Much better tools in the advanced stat tool box for that.

                
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That "situation" being we achieve more points while he's on the court, even sloppy.

                
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Post ID: 416396by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:02 PM PST
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Paul's 3 point shot looking sharp the past few games.

                
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Post ID: 416397by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:02 PM PST
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Right. So theortically, if a guy ends the season with one of the best +/- all season long. It really doesn't mean anything. It couldn't possibly mean he's playing good defense that doesn't show up in the box score. It couldn't possibly mean he draws doubles allowing teammates wide open. It couldn't possibly mean they must be doing something right!

Got it. roll

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416398by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:04 PM PST
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Why does JJ even try at the corners? I don't think he's hit from there all season.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416399by drebaby54 » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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If Dudley can't give you more than 7 points a game, may as well start Willie Green...

                
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Post ID: 416400by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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Investigate other tools and you'll see. roll

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416401by WinningBasket » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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Oh boy. This is disgusting. Lead has been whittled down to 4. Dang.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416402by Icecoldclipper » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:06 PM PST
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Chris needs to start shooting or we will lose. Griffin needs to sit.

                
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Post ID: 416403by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:07 PM PST
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So your saying Blake has been the best player on our team today since he has the highest +/-? Its not a useful stat even with a large sample size since there are many other stats that tell you a lot more.

Not saying its a completely meaningless stat rather there are way better stats. +/- doesn't even tell you who the best player on the team is nor does it tell anything about why that player has the highest +/-.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416404by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:07 PM PST
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Oh lawd Blake can't buy a bucket. I knew one of these games was coming! If both he and JJ aren't hitting, this could be rough.

                
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The defense is looking awful

                
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Why? There's a perfectly good one just mentioned. Who are you to completely disregard a stat that was obviously created for some reason?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416407by JahvonTheClip » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:08 PM PST
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Blake needs some easy buckets to get his confidence up

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416408by Icecoldclipper » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:08 PM PST
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Over passing

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416409by Icecoldclipper » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:09 PM PST
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Griffin needs to move on screen

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416410by gman » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:10 PM PST
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SAme play as the 1st half. This time it goes Griffins way.

                
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Post ID: 416411by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:10 PM PST
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Whatever. Continue to hammer that nail in the "wall" with a screw driver:wink:

                
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Post ID: 416412by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:11 PM PST
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No it doesn't mean he is the best player today. Nor did I say that.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416413by JahvonTheClip » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:11 PM PST
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Blake on the floor all the time. I could not do it

                
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Post ID: 416414by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:12 PM PST
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Always a good comeback. Wink

                
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Post ID: 416415by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:13 PM PST
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Plus and minus is not a useful stat. Not even when it comes to players on your own team and definitely not when it comes to comparing players on different teams.

http://basketballvalue.com/teamplayers. ... p;team=CHI

According to plus and minus stats Rose during his MVP season was far less valuable than Deng and Taj Gibson.

http://basketballvalue.com/topplayers.p ... =2011-2012

According to plus and minus stats league wide Paul Millsap and Josh Smith were top 5 valuable players. Taj Gibson was a top 10 valuable player, etc.

See what I mean? Not a particularly useful stat by any means.

                
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Post ID: 416416by tense2 » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:13 PM PST
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Thank you.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416417by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:14 PM PST
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So we were up by 20 at one point right? This is embarrassing....

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416418by what_up_clipnation83 » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:15 PM PST
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Dj doing a good job staying down on cousins....he's improved

                
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Blake took that three as if that was the designed play

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Kings Official Game Thread 2013-11-23 Post ID: 416420by Voyeur » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:16 PM PST
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And these stats all indicate to me that those guys are all more important to their teams than even their box score stats might indicate. What part of this don't you understand?

I appreciate you taking the time from watching the game to post all that info though.

                
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Post ID: 416421by CP3Heliflopter » Nov 23, 2013 - 04:16 PM PST
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I really wouldn't mind if he learned to shoot the corner 3.

Wow refs jobbed Bullock. That was not a charge....

                
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