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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Nuggets Official Game Thread 2013-12-21 Post ID: 422546by ClipperDodger1214 » Dec 22, 2013 - 12:17 AM PST
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Very pleased from what I saw tonight. Nice to have Barnes back.

This team is starting to put something together. Let's hope they can keep this up.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Nuggets Official Game Thread 2013-12-21 Post ID: 422547by Kingkanyon » Dec 22, 2013 - 12:33 AM PST
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Every Game I look in the Box Score after the game, Every game it's always Ryan Hollins who has a negative rating no matter what the score is, how is this possible.

                
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Post ID: 422548by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 22, 2013 - 12:35 AM PST
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Cause he kind of sucks. Razz Wish we never signed Hollins and Mullens. Especially Mullens.

                
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Post ID: 422551by Kingkanyon » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:01 AM PST
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I don't feel that way about Mullens Like everybody else, I watched him last year (league Pass, and I like Kemba), he's always been a up & down player, either he plays great or he plays bad, and as much as people kill him here, he's had some really good games off the bench this year, but He's young and he's coming off the bench so the likely hood of him having allot of bad games will increase. But for Ryan Hollins there is no excuses he's basically a veteran and he's been in Doc's system before so he has no reason to be playing this bad. But kill mullens all you want, but when all you get is 3 pointers and your not exactly a great 3pt shooter then you'd probably struggle as well.

                
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Post ID: 422554by Agent0 » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:05 AM PST
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Really? Poor guy, but it's probably that he is always playing with all bench units, and when all bench is on, it's usually not a good situation.

I mean he's also kinda blah as a player, but if he was playing with the starters he would be positive

                
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Post ID: 422559by gman » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:48 AM PST
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The problem with this is that K Love almost never guards BG.

                
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Post ID: 422560by CapsNClips » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:52 AM PST
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Um...K Love doesn't guard anybody. Their best defender is a 6'4 Spanish boy.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Nuggets Official Game Thread 2013-12-21 Post ID: 422562by ClipsGForce » Dec 22, 2013 - 04:43 AM PST
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Those handles

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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Nuggets Official Game Thread 2013-12-21 Post ID: 422563by ClipperB23 » Dec 22, 2013 - 05:26 AM PST
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^ So beautiful to watch, Blake's passing/handles are so underrated, no other PF in the league can do that.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Nuggets Official Game Thread 2013-12-21 Post ID: 422564by BennyBeFly » Dec 22, 2013 - 06:00 AM PST
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Great game last night. I saw glimpses of blake being more aggressive again. We need that. He needs to play more free and do stuff like that coast to coast he did.

                
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Post ID: 422566by Heediot » Dec 22, 2013 - 08:20 AM PST
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Didn't watch the game, but it appears that the trend is Collison plays his game better without Crawford next to him. Could it be that Crawford limits his aggression and style of play?

                
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Post ID: 422571by pageC4 » Dec 22, 2013 - 09:47 AM PST
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I can't speak for the effects on Collison, but I can say that the positive to having Crawford on the starting unit is that Paul doesn't have any pressure to score. he can be what he wants and that is a passer.

                
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Post ID: 422572by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 22, 2013 - 09:58 AM PST
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He shoots worse in mid range than Blake Griffin, is a poor finisher and is worse than Amare Stoudemire on defense. What kind of shots should he be getting exactly? What is his value on the court? For every point he gets you(inefficiently) he gives up two on the other end.

                
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Post ID: 422574by Kingkanyon » Dec 22, 2013 - 10:15 AM PST
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First off Defense Starts with your point guard not your Center, 2nd Amare isn't that bad of a defender he just never played with an elite level defensive point guard, and he has lapses of lazyness here and there But if your not Great your bad eh. But on the subject of mullens... he doesn't really take allot of mid range shot, and Blake Griffen has been a good mid range shooter this year, he's no Brandon Bass but Bass is an Elite level mid range shooter, but what type of shots should he be getting, well the same exact shot's he's been taking, but all I'm saying is he's not exactly a veteran player so expecting him to play like one is just silly, also he has no effect on the game with the limited minutes he give you. I just don't understand why he was so horrible to the level were you want to render him useless or a bad signing, he has a 1 year contract with an option for a 2nd year, he's only 24, 3rd he could still improve, so having him in your system could be good for him and we don't know what kind of positive effect he has on practice, he probably is of help when if comes to Helping Blake and DJ guard the stretch four.

I would like to see him take more shots in the paint and take more short range shots. I don't know if he is the right fit for this team at this time strictly because he's Highly inconsistent. But never mind me I just don't feel the need kill someone that's only played seldomly and sparingly. And you can't take much from the Data Compiled early in the Season, EVERYBODY WAS BAD.


I've been watching this game a long time and I have seen people get ruled out or rendered nothing just to see them eventually find their way. Mullens could find his way, or he could be out of the league soon but neither you or I really know, so all the mullens is useless or horrible is kind of not true especially when it took the whole team a month to sort of get it.

                
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Post ID: 422575by ClipperPostman » Dec 22, 2013 - 10:33 AM PST
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Why would we want to imagine "Crawford on the bench again" when the team is playing so much better with him starting.

I'd rather imagine JJ coming off the bench.

4-0 crawford start

                
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Post ID: 422577by Voyeur » Dec 22, 2013 - 10:47 AM PST
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So...we can't go back to being the number 1 offense again? But with a much improved defense?

As good as we are now...we can actually be better. But either way, we win.

                
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Post ID: 422579by ClipperPostman » Dec 22, 2013 - 10:53 AM PST
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JJ won't make this team a "Much improved defense". That Is a theory.

JJ won't make this team a "Number 1 offense". That's a theory.

                
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Post ID: 422581by Voyeur » Dec 22, 2013 - 11:06 AM PST
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Not a theory, for a time, we were number 1 on offense while JJ was starting. And when I say "much improved defense" I don't mean BECAUSE JJ will be starting (although his perimeter D is still better than JC). I mean our overall team defense has been more consistent than it was early on this season.

It was already pretty good with the starters but the bench was bringing our defensive ranking down big time. Over time, however our defense was getting better and better. It was right around our game against Chicago where we started to play really good defense.

Either way, starting or coming off the bench, the team will be even better with JJ. I happen to think we need JJ's style starting and Crawford's overall explosiveness off the bench. You feel the opposite. I'm confident Doc will make the right decision one way or another.

                
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Post ID: 422593by pageC4 » Dec 22, 2013 - 12:56 PM PST
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Blake is a great student of the game. he can learn skills very easily, as evidence by his clear adpption of Jamals crossover and footwork.after this year if keving garnet is available for cheap i would love for the clipps to get him so he can mentor and teach Blake some defensive fundamentals...that will be one scary mentor-disciple tandem.

                
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Post ID: 422596by Icecoldclipper » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:07 PM PST
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Crawford has done a great job but nothing really changed with JJ or JC outside of Dudley playing better. Dudley playing better may have been he had a slower adjustment and/or the knee and if he keeps it up even better. Dudley and the team itself looked much worse because Will Green and Dudley should of never started next to each other with both slumping.

JJ is the better defender and his scoring has been about the same at times better than JC on better percentages. I'm a big Crawford fan and never was or will be for trading him, but when JJ comes back and 100% Jamal should take his freedom flow to the bench where we can do even more damage with Barnes and Collison. We don't have bench bigs scoring so the combination of wings and DC should cover us.

I don't think JJ should start game one when he comes back because he will need to test the wrist.

                
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Post ID: 422597by Voyeur » Dec 22, 2013 - 01:11 PM PST
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Yeah I'm almost positive there will be some rust when JJ gets back. Wrist rust, if you will.

                
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