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ClipsGForce
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I'll do it. I just want to see Doc Rivers and Andrew Bynum tried to get along. See how Bynum would fare if he disrespect Doc Rivers.

itsLuigi
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is it possible to send mullens to the d-leauge?

maybe he can learn to rebound there

BaadMaster
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As a Lakers fan, this could be the last straw. If Drew joins the Clippers and Doc revives his career, I might just bolt these Jim Buss Lakers. That would be my breaking point. It's enough that we have idiot D'Antoni and you have a stud in Doc Rivers. We used to have Phil. They say love turns to rage when it is unrequited. I am at that point.

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Would not surprise me to see a Laker fan jump ship after 1 poor season.

Dunkathon
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With all due respect, last season for the Lakers was pretty awful, too.

See, what would make a Lakers fan like this guy jump ship isn't some bad seasons. That's happened to the Lakers before. The difference is that Lakers fans always knew that Jerry Buss had their backs, and would return them to greatness sooner rather than later.

They have no such assurances with Jimmy.

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You are 100% right. 110% in fact. Here is a post I wrote on the Lakers board which will explain it perfectly...and it references the Clippers thus I feel I can post it here...

...We have no idea what the corporate philosophy of the post Dr. Buss Lakers' owners are. They might be fine with just having a mega-moneymaking "Farewell Kobe" tour and could care less about titles. Maybe post Kobe, they keep a cheap, semi-exciting team with a "regular season" coach. Until then, they can utilize the spectacular legendary Kobe as the main draw and generate gargantuan profits for his last two years. Add into the Kobe money pot the Time-Warner billions, they can literally do no economic wrong. If its only about money, Jim Buss might be doing just fine. Superfine in fact. He might know EXACTLY what he is doing. The Lakers crowd who want titles may not like it. I surely don't like it. But the bottom line accountants might be happy as a pig in sh*t.

For all you know, Buss Jr. might even have a computer program that shows him how to maximize profits -- and it might not have anything to do with Championships. Dr. Buss was old school and lived for the limelight of an NBA title. Jim Buss might not care one wit about rings, just money.

On the other hand, it is clear the Clippers NEED a Championship to establish their bona-fides. So, if it is a title you want, root for the Clippers. Why else would they spend more for a coach than the Lakers? The Clips surely didn't pick up Doc to tread water. It was clearly for a title; that is their aim. Could it be that Donald Sterling has become Dr. Buss and Jim Buss has become the old Donld Sterling?

As to the Lakers aims, I have no confidence that Jim Buss cares at all about titles. If that is the case, it might be time to get off the Titanic.

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Do it. 100 percent. Low risk high reward. My cousin is a hardcore Laker fan. He said if Bynum goes to the clippers it is guaranteed we make the finals and a damn good possibility we win a championship. Bynum "if motivated" is a top center in the league. Doc Rivers commands respect. No doubt in my mind Bynum returns to glory. I know he would love to be back in LA. He feels like the Lakers betrayed him. He would want to prove himself being back in LA

ClipsGForce
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Look guys, we can always cut him if Bynum did not work on our ways. I think it safe enough that this year is the perfect storm and we should take advantage every opportunity that present to us. I just want us to win one Championship, then I will be the happiest man on

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Mullens is so worthless it wouldn't matter if Bynum completely sucked and we had to waive him.

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this statement could not be any more true...

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One of Mullens' problems is that he's skinny and weak and gets manhandled in the paint. He tried but got tossed around. If were a good shooter he should go to Europe. He can't guard a good PF let alone a center.

I have no clue if we can do this but can we waive Mullens and sign Bynum? Even if we're a bit over the hard cap is it worth it? Again I could be off base.

This isn't a Lakers board but having said that. D'Antoni isn't an idiot. Kobe is an idiot. He won't follow the system but shoots when he wants. The LAL are doing much better with Kobe gone since they have good ball movement. and if Blake were healthy they possibly could make the PO's in the east.

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Would be a huge leap for him to buy in here. I think he could play well with both bigs.

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kind of a no brainer really, we need another low post threat and and a big that can defend and rebound, he is at worst an upgrade over hollins and mullins, the x factor is getting him motivated to play which should be a good chance of playing under doc, i mean just look at the leaps and bounds DJ has had this year

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The Andrew Bynum situation laid out nicely By Brian Windhorst of ESPN. There maybe more teams "wanting" to trade for this guy then you think: The Andrew Bynum suspension and potential trade from the Cleveland Cavaliers has numerous facets especially because Bynum is in a unique position in the league. There is a lot to consider and digest, but Bynum is a 7-footer, has proved he still can play at some level and has a contract situation that is rare and valuable under certain circumstances. Here's what is in play: The trade Bynum signed a two-year contract for $24.8 million with the Cavs, but....

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itsLuigi
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im sorry i don't get how this works? if we trade for him what does he get paid?

tense2
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IF the Clippers traded for him (which they shouldn't) then they'll paid him the guaranteed 6 mil. Hopefully if we pick him up it'll be after he released by Cleveland for the min or by who ever trades for him.

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Any big is better than Mullens or Hollins.

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Bynum apparently is gonna be released. For the min and a non guaranteed contract? Sure (If he is willing to play here or Miami we cant offer him anything better).

I dont mind him being lazy or an idiot. My concern is the chronic pain on his knees.

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I'm sure cabs wouldn't want him going to an eastern conference team. Clippers make so much sense. Especially for Bynum

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The Cleveland Cavaliers announced Sunday that they have lifted the suspension of center Andrew Bynum, but he still remains away from the team, excused from all basketball activities for the foreseeable future. Was it a....

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Dunkathon
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Source? That sounds...wild, to say the least.

Heediot
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Maybe Gilbert gives him an extra 500K if he agrees not to sign in Miami just to spite LeBron.

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YES! I would definitely take a chance on Bynum. He's clearly better than Odom was last season and that was before he went his cocaine binge. I do like Okafor since he doesn't bring all the off court problems and attitude that Bynum has, but Okafor hasn't even played this season due to injuries. Bynum is still a big powerful center who is more than twice the player that Hollins and Mullens are combined. It may be a little risky to take a chance on him, but I say it's worth it.

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For some strange reason, Id rather pick Bynum AND Odom than just pick one of them. Idk, I feel like both could thrive together, but if we pick just one, he is gonna suck.

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Could technically cut Waynes and Jackson before their salaries are guaranteed. So this is still a possibility, though I feel personally an unlikely possibility.

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Help Wanted- back up center/forward

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That is exactly what I said! You have a bench lineup that could start like last season Darren Collison Jamal Crawford Matt Barnes Lamar Odom Andrew Bynum - Who put up 18 points ( 8-13 FG 2-2 FT ) and....

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cavs talking to flakers to trade paul gasol for bynum & ??? + 1st rd. pick. then LAF waive bynum.

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Smart move by the lakers. Might as well save money

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i hope the lakers will waive him asap so we can pick him up I'm sure we are not the only one want him.

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I'm on my damn honeymoon for the past week+ but had to weigh in since I got internet for the first time in 4 days today. (I take the blame for 3 out of 4 losses since I've been out for these games on "personal reasons".

First of all, he must really be a d!ck for Cleveland to want to dump him already. He's seems to be decent this year, definitely still has his offensive game minus the explosiveness.

But any negative aspects really don't matter when you're talking about obtaining such a skilled guy who can add a totally different dimension to our team. Especially on the offensive end, you almost can't double team Blake if Bynum is on the court. Both of those guys would shred most defenses as a tandem.

I would not want to trade for him in any situation. We'd have to give up important contributors to match money and it's not worth the risk. But if he's going to be waived and essentially available for no money, there's no way you can justify passing on him. If he acts the fool, you just dump him. More likely he'll get us 12&7 in 20mins and will be a damned godsend. Wayns gets released and done deal. If you want to add Lamar later, either Jax, Willie, or Mullens is released too.

I feel like this is a very important development because it's increasingly unlikely that Okafor will be available this season. Pho just killed one of the supposed top West teams and they're a PO team as of today. They can't get away with releasing Okafor if they're in the PO hunt. They don't have payroll problems, Okafor's release would put them well below the minimum salary requirement this season. Okafor ain't coming to L.A. unless something weird happens. Even more the reason to take Bynum if he becomes available.

Sidenote: Laker trade happens, I doubt they release him to "save money". Move Gasol for their former C and then just let him go to the Clips the next day for free? Very doubtful. There's a team option for next season so it's a big benefit for them to just play the season out and see if he's worth 10mil in 14-15.

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Im not sold on CLE giving a pick for a rental. Gasol aint staying there and Bynum could be released without the need to give a pick. You can say Kyrie or their young core could LeBron them and leave, but this is a dumb trade if you are putting a 1st rounder in there (Though, apparently, Cleveland sucks when it comes to draft picks). If Cavs are desperate to get Gasol , Id put Bennett in the package instead of the 1st rounder.

Plus, Kobe will be pissed if they trade Gasol for a guy who could be cut in a matter of days.

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The thing is they aren't planning on keeping Gasol after this year and if they can save over 20 million in doing this salary dump and actually get something for it (presumably picks or young assets) then heck yeah they gotta consider it. I think it's a pretty smart play for the future and this next offseason.

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For the Lakers? Probably. This is a good trade for them, except for Kobe being angry, if that happens.

For Cleveland? Not sure. I dont think the Cavs will improve a lot with Pau, or at least not enough to convince Kyrie (who shouldnt leave, but be patient IMO). Plus: Pau, Andy, TT, Bennett, Zeller, Clark need minutes. Right now Cleveland has logjams everywhere except on the wing (and thus are playing guys out of their position)

Cutting Bynum will help them to develop Zeller and Bennett, specially without the need to give a pick. Unless they are THAT desperate to get a lower seed.

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We just can't be releasing players and still be paying for them. we're too close to the hard cap to be able to do that. Hopefully they release Jackson before his contract becomes guaranteed. Same with Wayns, now that it seems his contract is not guaranteed. The rest you'd have to trade....somehow, lol.

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Lakers will not keep Bynum, it'll defeat the purpose of the trade and Bynum will never work in the D'Antoni system, LOL.

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Idk, we already saw that Bynum has a nice 3 pt stroke.... right, Mike Brown?

edit: congrats, Thedude, and a happy clip year for all from Buenos Aires.

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Congrats.

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I don't get it

Pau has a $19 mil contract expiring. Cleve gets rid of Bynum and eats Pau's $$ for a year because Pau isn't going to stay unless of course LBJ goes home. If that happens Pau can sign as a FA. Cleve needs developable talent or talen for the long run.

Bynum to LAL, he will tell Kobe to eat excrement. Bynum will be released.

Cleve gets rid of Bynum for a pick dumps his contract. They get a one year rental expiring contract Gasol and LA gets a cancer who won't play and a pick. why don't they just waive him?

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Your talking about a franchise who picked Anthony Bennett with their number 1 overall pick. You can't use normal logic when you talk about the Cavs management.

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bynum maybe headed to Utah instead of the flakers. we'll see.

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Why utah? So they can waive him and save money? I could not see Bynum "wanting" to be in Utah.... Makes no sense. If the dude doesn't want to play he won't play. Which is why he just wants heat and Clippers. He wants to go to a contending team. Utah is not.

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They'd waive him.

Markojaric
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LOL do you guys imagine Bynum being Bynum in Mormon City? Even if hes going there is just to be waived, I find this hilarious

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I say we do it. Having him come off the bench would do wonders for our second units defense. Dropping Mullens would be a no brainer and dropping Waynes as well if Odom gets back in shape at some point but that's a very big if so we're going to have to hold our breathe for someone else I think. I think that with the Clippers Bynum's attitude would not be a factor because of Doc Rivers influence

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3 days until bynum decision is made.. Hopefully he is waived and we make a move for him.. Off the bench we could use his presence

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Twitter is going nuts right now because rumours said the Bynum Gasol swoop is done (Apparently: Pau and a 2nd for Bynum and Jack, because Cavs need salaries to match, they have to give a player).

Still thinking that a 3 team trade with Memphis could be better (with the main pieces: Bynum in LA, Pau in Memphis and ZBo in Cleveland).

LA still gets the contract they want, Memphis gets the brothers reunited (which should be pretty solid, as the Spain team showed. And if Pau is gonna take a paycut, is gonna be in Memphis probably). And Cleveland is a very good team: Kyrie, Randolph (who is still in for another year), and you are a trade away from being a team good enough for a 3rd seed (and aim for guys like Evan Turner, Thad Young, Afflalo or Asik. Heck, if they are sending away Jack and Waiters they could be even interested in Jamal Crawford)

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^ I seriously doubt the Cavs include Jack. Irving has yet to prove himself as durable. That's just laker fans being laker fans... "Pau Gasol is so bad that we have to dump him, but good enough for Minny or Boston to give up their best player for him". roll

Benchwarmers and/or a 2nd or future protected 1st is the best the lakers will get along with Bynum's non-guaranteed... tick, tock.

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I would think Bynum would solidify our bench presence, IF doc laid it out that there would have to be a commitment from Bynum that he would have to"fly straight"if he were to join our team.

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Would bynum even want to be here if cp3 can't play this season?

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Good point and I would guess no.

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