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Post ID: 426496by Silasie » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:06 PM PST
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Nice one David.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426497by david » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:08 PM PST
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Was there any word of whether CP hurt himself on the fall or on the arm yank by Ellis? From video replay it looked like the latter because he didn't seem to move his arms forward to brace his fall.

CP looks more buff this season, and I'm also wondering if doing the extra weight training contributed?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426502by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:23 PM PST
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^ Monta hooked his left arm, though. It's the right shoulder that's injured. I think it happened as he hit the floor.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426504by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:31 PM PST
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I'm so upset.

                
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Post ID: 426505by david » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:36 PM PST
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Ah must be the fall then- his shoulder probably hit the floor hard at a bad angle.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426507by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 12:48 PM PST
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Is anyone familiar with this injury and can speak to recovery?

                
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Post ID: 426510by FightOnRon » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:01 PM PST
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I think the biggest difference is we didn't have the lack of PGs as we do now,and our bench was way better.

Bledsoe ran the 1st unit, Jamal the 2nd. With JJ out and Jamal on the first unit it really thins out our 2nd unit.

But I think we can hang tough. Blake has to go back to the Blake play of the Baron days where #32 carried the team. that team was no way as good as a team is this one but they played well enough to hang in there.

I think the worst part is we can sit here an speculate,is it 3 week week injury or a season ender. We need answers so we know how much whiskey to start drinking and for how long..

                
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Post ID: 426511by FightOnRon » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:01 PM PST
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Post ID: 426514by Laak » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:10 PM PST
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I'm a laker fan? Damn, I never knew that...

You can always foul him late in all quarters, and avoid bonus. I don't know who's dumb enough to use their starters to hack DJ, there are plenty bench-warmers who can commit these fouls.

And as bad as Shaq was, he still shot 52.6% from FT in his career. Other than 1 year, DJ never even got close to that number.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426515by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:10 PM PST
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I'm so scared it's a season ender. Can't wait until Monday!

                
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Post ID: 426517by BennyBeFly » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:23 PM PST
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Weight training done right isn't usually an issue.

The only way I can imagine the extra weight lifting being a detriment is a thing called pattern overload. Basketball players already have a tight shoulder complex due to all of the pressing movements they do like chest passes, dribbling, shooting. If you add the db chest preses and overhead presses to that mix, it could be he had a bunch of muscle imbalances. I wonder how good they warmup his rotator cuffs on game day and how many pulling movements he incorporates into his workouts to counteract all of the pressing movements that make basketball players have a more dominant anterior like that of a boxer.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426519by TheDude » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:46 PM PST
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He'll be back in a month. Based on the analysis by Dr. Gforce, it looked like the most minor of these types of injuries the way he was moving directly afterwards. Misses some time every year, we'll be alright. I think we're better off this year with Collison vs. Ebled and Redick will be back soon to pick up the slack. Blake has been scoring a lot of points the past few weeks, he'll have to continue that trend if we're going to play above .500 ball while he's out.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426520by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:47 PM PST
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It just sucks because this was the part of the schedule where we could have made up some ground.

                
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Post ID: 426521by tense2 » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:55 PM PST
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We can also be thankful that the injury occur now with that same schedule. Glass half full outlook. Smile

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426522by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 01:57 PM PST
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And the question is also how he will play when he is back. It's his shooting arm.

                
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Post ID: 426527by tense2 » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:07 PM PST
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No use trying to come up with all these scenarios, it's going to drive you nuts... unless it's done that already, lol.

Just try to relax and wait until Monday and you should have all your questions answered...at least most of them anyway.

                
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Post ID: 426528by FreaKeyy » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:09 PM PST
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yeah this is what really bothers me. CP is no Westbrook who can attack the basket all game. CP relies on his jumpshooting and he needs it to be really effective.

                
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Post ID: 426531by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:11 PM PST
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Too late, it's driven me nuts. I'm so down about it. I know it's just a sport, but it's a major source of fun for me and my family.

                
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Post ID: 426533by tense2 » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:17 PM PST
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Oh boy. Deep breathing helps....and it's only a game and be thankful it "really" doesn't affect your family life outlook. Best I got to give to you. Smile

                
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Post ID: 426536by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:23 PM PST
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Knowing CP's persona, if he couldn't shoot a lick anymore, he'd just change his game and put up 20 assists per night.

Cut off the guy's arm and he'll still find a way to compete. This is just a setback.

                
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Post ID: 426540by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:39 PM PST
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We paid him 100 million dollars. Need him to be ok

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426544by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 02:48 PM PST
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^ Estimation right now is 3-5 weeks, not 3-5 years. Relax... He's come back from worse before.

                
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Post ID: 426565by FightOnRon » Jan 04, 2014 - 04:21 PM PST
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From someone with a screen name of TENSE! Wink

                
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Post ID: 426567by tense2 » Jan 04, 2014 - 04:26 PM PST
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Yep....what an enigma huh!. Maybe I should change it now since I retired back in 2009, lol.

Life is good.

                
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Post ID: 426571by toohipcliptoslip » Jan 04, 2014 - 05:16 PM PST
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Notice I said SEMI BLESSING. When he was hurt last yr we suffered. Many in the press and at least to some extent rightfully so have said we can't function without him. We have to learn because this team is capable of doing good things without him. This will be a test to see if we really have the hearts of champions and can step up or fold under adversity. I would rather have us slip a bit in the rankings but become a team that id dependent on no one thing to win.

                
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Post ID: 426573by toohipcliptoslip » Jan 04, 2014 - 05:32 PM PST
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First sorry if I came of brusque. Didn't mean it that was."Take a look at the diagram" sounded harsh and I didn't mean it that way

A shoulder separation can be likened to bending a twig. In a Grade I you bend the twig. It may be a bit floppy but it doesn't break. A Grade II you bend it till some fibers break but not all the way through. The deformity may be very small. A Grade II the twig breaks completely. There doesn't need to be bruising because it's a twisting motion usually and not caused by a direct blow. As a matter of fact there is usually no bruising at all. You really can't tell for sure what grade it is by how they hold their arm. Some with a Grade III let their arm dangle.

                
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Post ID: 426576by FightOnRon » Jan 04, 2014 - 06:09 PM PST
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I retired in 2001 and am more tense now then when I worked as I have more time in my brain to worry about my sports teams.

It was easier when they all sucked but now that some are getting good,even great,my nerves get shattered.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426597by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 07:20 PM PST
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I have to watch eagles - can someone say if there is an update with cp3.

                
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Post ID: 426599by ekker3 » Jan 04, 2014 - 07:23 PM PST
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I'm the exact opposite. i used to go into full tantrum mode during the bad times and now I'm incredibly chill, almost apathetic. its crazy because when i saw CP walk off to the locker room, it didn't truly bother me to the extent that it did when EB went down. i nearly blew a gasket then.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426860by Clipperfn4lf » Jan 05, 2014 - 03:11 AM PST
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Uh anyone else fear this might be a torn labrum, possibly season ending?

                
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Post ID: 426863by clippersforlife33 » Jan 05, 2014 - 05:03 AM PST
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yea I'm freaking out... we'll probably find out on sunday or monday yikes.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426864by BaadMaster » Jan 05, 2014 - 07:25 AM PST
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As a Lakers fan, I just started watching Clippers games and was hoping for a Finals appearance. As I said, the Clippers are a Los Angeles team and represent my city.

I am praying that CP3 is OK.

Go Clippers (and of course Lakers.) I can root for two teams ya know!

                
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Post ID: 426874by ClippersDA » Jan 05, 2014 - 10:54 AM PST
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Where did this labrum concern come from?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426878by jtwinnaz » Jan 05, 2014 - 11:22 AM PST
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This injury is why we should have kept Bled. Insurance policy.

                
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Post ID: 426880by FightOnRon » Jan 05, 2014 - 11:26 AM PST
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YOu know,you can google an shoulder injury and come up with virtually everything. As fans we go nuts trying to be doctors from our computers or guessing at things that could have happened and many times we put the worst case scenarios in front of our face (I am guilty of this a lot to) and we start the boo-hoos for us and our team. Then we rejoice when we are wrong or start the I-Told-You-So when we are right

Reality is,nothing we can do will change it and we can get our ulcers all worked up,or wait until this afternoon when we get a real report. Then we can go nuts or not, depending upon what happens.

For now,it's the NFL playoffs,who dey?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426881by Voyeur » Jan 05, 2014 - 11:33 AM PST
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Seriously people, we need to get our heads out of the PAST. We don't have Bledsoe, and that's that! And our record was only .500 when he started that stretch Paul was injured last year. Shoulda, woulda, coulda does nothing to improve us now. We got at least one good player who fits nicely on our team. It just happened he had a freak accident and got injured. A guy who rarely sits out to injury. And hopefully that OTHER player we got will eventually get out of this up-and-down pattern and be more consistent. As of now, Butler looks like the better player, which is unfortunate.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426883by ClipperKyle32 » Jan 05, 2014 - 11:39 AM PST
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If Chris's injury was as bad as we THINK! He would have flown home to get CHECKED! A day with something TORN? Would not feel great! That is why I believe he just dislocated it just by seeing the way He Fell! Here is the run down

Dislocated Shoulder and Separated Shoulder

They're easy to confuse. But a dislocated shoulder and a separated shoulder are two distinct injuries. Here's the rundown.

Dislocated shoulder. In this injury, a fall or blow causes the top of your arm bone to pop out of the shoulder socket.

Unlike a lot of joints in your body -- your elbow, for instance -- the shoulder is incredibly mobile. You can twist and move your upper arm in almost any direction. But there's a price for this ease of movement. The shoulder joint is inherently unstable, prone to slipping out of place.

In severe cases of dislocated shoulder, the tissue and nerves around the shoulder joint get damaged. If you keep dislocating your shoulder, you could wind up with chronic instability and weakness.

Separated shoulder. Despite the name, this injury doesn't directly affect the shoulder joint. Instead, a fall or blow tears one of the ligaments that connects the collarbone to shoulder blade.

Since it's no longer anchored, the collarbone may move out of position and push against the skin near the top of your shoulder. Although separated shoulders can cause deformity, people usually recover fully with time. You might get a separated shoulder or a dislocated shoulder by:

Falling onto your shoulder, especially on a hard surface Being hit in the shoulder Trying to break a fall with your hand Dislocated shoulders can also result from a sharp twisting of the arm.

Sports that pose a higher risk of these two injuries are:

Football Hockey Rock climbing Rugby Soccer Skiing Volleyball

What Does a Dislocated Shoulder or Separated Shoulder Feel Like?

Symptoms of a dislocated shoulder are:

Pain in the shoulder and upper arm that hurts more when you move the area Deformation of the shoulder -- a bump in the front or back of your shoulder, depending on how the bone has been dislocated Symptoms of a separated shoulder are:

Intense pain as soon as the injury occurs Tenderness of the shoulder and collarbone Swelling Bruising Deformed shoulder To diagnose a separated shoulder or dislocated shoulder, your doctor will give you a thorough exam. You may need X-rays to rule out broken bones and other conditions.

Free Agent Point Guards Like Gilbert Arenas or Bobby Brown! The Clippers will be fine! I am just glad it wasn't any type of knee injury!

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426884by CP3Best » Jan 05, 2014 - 11:40 AM PST
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Before his update I researched a little on shoulder sprain injuries, and it appears to be a grade II or III shoulder strain, I took that from the timetable they gave.If it is a III sprain, it's bad because although it gets better (pain) in about 4 weeks, its prone to re-injury, so some rehab for 3-5 months. With a II pain goes away after 2 weeks and you can resume athletic activities from 6-8 weeks.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426891by clips15deep » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:19 PM PST
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I have a bad feeling that this injury will last longer than 3-5 weeks, and will seriously hurt our playoff seeding.

                
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Post ID: 426892by Agent0 » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:32 PM PST
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I'm not sure that's necessarily a good reason. Collisn isn't bad

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426893by jazclipcity3 » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:36 PM PST
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Just watched some highlights of bobby brown. ... really like him, has a Russell Westbrook style game. We should give him a try. As far as backup bigs go. .. has anybody heard anything about lamar or Bynum for that matter?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426894by CapsNClips » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:38 PM PST
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Let's say we fall to the 7th or 8th seed, is anyone actually that scared to play Portland, OKC, or San Antonio when we get Chris back? I was more afraid of lining up with Memphis last year than I am lining up with any team in the West this year.

We can beat any team with JJ and Chris healthy. I don't care if we don't have home court, we had home court last year and look how that turned out.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426895by ClipperKyle32 » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:41 PM PST
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I SWEAR IF I SEE ONE MORE PERSON SAY ITS SEASON ENDING I WILL HAVE A FLIP! If it was a season ending he would have flown to LA to have surgery! God don't be so down on it!

                
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Post ID: 426896by cleepers » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:52 PM PST
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If we slip that far, but everyone's healthy for the playoffs, we'd certainly be the best 8-seed that I've ever seen, and we'd be back to being among the league's best.

The CLIPPERS... joke of the league for 30 years, going from 8-seed to NBA champions, could be the greatest basketball story ever told. Jamie Foxx and the Rock playing the dynamic duo in the movie version... Morgan Freeman as Doc.

Ratings, Mr. Stern, ratings.

                
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Post ID: 426897by clipperboy24 » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:55 PM PST
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The only team that scares me every year is the spurs, much more than the grizzlies. They are built for the playoffs and know how to capitalize on all of our mistakes.

                
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Post ID: 426898by jarca » Jan 05, 2014 - 01:59 PM PST
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I would love a match up with Portland. Should be a fun series

                
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Post ID: 426899by jarca » Jan 05, 2014 - 02:01 PM PST
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Might be a season ending injury. You never know. 3,2,1. Flip wink

                
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Post ID: 426900by tense2 » Jan 05, 2014 - 02:07 PM PST
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As know one knows anything for sure until the MRI reveals IF and how much soft tissue (ligaments) damaged there is and the severity of the damage, expect the worst and hope for the best.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426904by Voyeur » Jan 05, 2014 - 02:32 PM PST
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So it's interesting that Doc said that they're looking for guys "out of the league" who can get out of their China contracts and that he said it doesn't necessarily have to be a PG but could be a SF who can handle the ball.

http://www.nba.com/clippers/news/rivers ... oint-guard

                
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Post Subject: RE: Chris Paul Right Shoulder Injury News/Update Post ID: 426907by tense2 » Jan 05, 2014 - 02:39 PM PST
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Even Doc's expecting the worse and hoping for the best:

Rivers was asked if there was a chance Paul could return sooner than expected. "I'm not too confident that that'll be the case," Rivers said. "I'm just going to wait and see." Rivers said Paul "could be" out longer than five weeks. "But I'm hoping not," he said.

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