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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426784by Icecoldclipper » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:42 PM PST
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Is Dudley eye thing more serious than thought? Has yet to come back since being poked in eye.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426785by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:43 PM PST
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Splitter with a sprained shoulder. Weird.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426786by Icecoldclipper » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:45 PM PST
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If team shows up like the third they can win home games without Paul. The effort and urgency has to START at tip.

Team needs the rest.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426787by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:45 PM PST
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Would anyone take barnes?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426788by WinningBasket » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:46 PM PST
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I wish the Clippers played with the same effort all 4 quarters instead of just the 3rd.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426789by Icecoldclipper » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:47 PM PST
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Well that ended horribly. Got beat up by Channing Tatum at the end.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426790by gman » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:48 PM PST
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I do not know what exactly did Doc just say to Jamal, but he pointed to the rafters and the Spurs Championship Banners.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426791by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:48 PM PST
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How many years does Dudley have left?

                
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Post ID: 426792by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:51 PM PST
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Probably telling him that championships are won by team players and not hero ball chuckers

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426793by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:52 PM PST
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It does the team no good if the role players wait until the second half to play well, IF we've already been blown clear out of the building.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426794by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:56 PM PST
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I'm struggling to remain optimistic about this roster even with Paul, but we are older, not athletic except on the front court, and streaky. Big changes are necessary but I feel our hands are tied.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426796by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 09:59 PM PST
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Meh, I still maintain we were getting better and better before JJ went down. It was just an adjustment period and we were actually starting to come together...albeit probably needing another big. Just some bad luck lately. I still think we'll be okay.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426797by Icecoldclipper » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:00 PM PST
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Crawford played well in the second half the first half was chucking. Idk what happen to Dudley and why Blake didn't really do much in the 4th

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426798by worm » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:01 PM PST
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Will be OK cannot predict this injury's to clips.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426799by david » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:01 PM PST
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Well, this was why last night's win was so big. W/O CP, B2B on the road, it was going to be tough. Nice comeback in the third, but tonight, the Clipper defensive strategy was seriously flawed. It's mind boggling how they just kept allowing Tony Parker to drive into the lane for layups or dishes for layups. You might as well stay 10 feet away from him and have him shoot the jumper instead. Just terrible. I don't know what Darren Collison was thinking, or somehow Doc Rivers thought he could stay in front of him by playing him so tight. Also, Doc should have expended more timeouts in the first half- he seemed helpless and in daze as the Spurs just kept piling up the points.

The guys also allowed the Spurs to split traps way too often, leaving 2 defenders in the dust, making it a 5 on 3 attack too often. The pick-n-roll defense was also outrageous. Spurs just kept turning the corner, again leaving 2 defenders behind on the way to the rim. You might as well just play zone if you can't keep up.

I think teams lately are on to something, and are exposing the Clippers defensive scheme. This has nothing to do with missing Chris Paul, so the staff and the guys better figure things out- fast.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426800by CapsNClips » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:01 PM PST
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Okay Chris you can come back now, joke's over.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426802by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:04 PM PST
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Let's face it, with one night to prepare after losing our floor general and superstar, we didn't really have time to practice our strategy against a great Spurs team.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426803by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:05 PM PST
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If we could just hold teams to 50pts in the first half, we'd be unstoppable.

                
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Post ID: 426804by clipper321 » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:08 PM PST
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Gotta bring the effort all 48 for that to be possible. We sure could use at least 1 elite defender at the C/F position.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426805by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:10 PM PST
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We need to beat the Magic on Monday. We certainly can't allow another 20-20 game from Vucevic.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426809by Icecoldclipper » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:21 PM PST
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Holy crap Clippers and Eagles lose FCK!

                
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Post ID: 426811by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:29 PM PST
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Eagles fan here too - horrible sports day

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426814by Barnes » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:40 PM PST
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we are nothing without paul. bledsoe is a star player, 20 point scorer. why let him go for? why test the depth for? that's 20 points we give up.

                
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Post ID: 426815by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:40 PM PST
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I agree that it's nothing to do with CP3 being down, but I just see our guys being slow on rotations and late to 50/50 balls.

The schemes seem to work fine when the effort is there, and that effort is there when our shots are falling. When they're not, or when we're not getting calls, we're hanging our heads and half-assing the defense.

I guess it's human nature, but that's why people describe the Spurs as inhuman... a machine. Pop has the advantage over Doc that he's been there longer than ANY of their players... him and his system ARE the Spurs. It'll take time and maybe some personnel changes to instill that in our Clips.

We have 2 stars who we know what we're going to get from offensively every night (well, 1 right now) and a bunch of guys who can get hot on a given night... and most of the time a couple of them will.

The problem is, if they don't get hot, they stop playing at the other end. This is what Doc means by trusting the system... consistent defensive effort from everybody - all the time, taking high % shots and riding the hot hand... playing the same way whether your line that night looks like an MVP or a scrub.

If our role guys don't figure that out soon, some of them will be on their way out the door, because just like the Spurs' "big 4", Doc is certainly here to stay and outside of CP, Blake and maybe DJ, everybody else is expendable if there's a guy available who's ready to buy in.

I'm hoping JJ's return is a shot in the arm for this team. Not just because of his 16ppg, or because he'll bring some defensive miracle... but because he is the epitome of a guy who plays the same way every single game.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426816by Barnes » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:41 PM PST
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It's over for us unless we sign someone

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426817by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:42 PM PST
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^ Who is this "we" you speak of?

                
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Post ID: 426818by Barnes » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:44 PM PST
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Gary sacks better make a move soon. stop testing me.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426819by itsLuigi » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:47 PM PST
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you guys think if jj comes back before chris paul he'll start at point guard?

                
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Post ID: 426820by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:48 PM PST
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Yeah, if we were allowed to play six guys at the same time.

Collison 16.2pts/36 Bledsoe 19.3pts/36

Seeing as our backup PG sees 18 minutes per game, that is 1.5 points we're giving up. and saving about 80% of Bled's projected salary.

You really don't have a f*cking clue what you're talking about, do you.

                
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Post ID: 426821by Barnes » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:49 PM PST
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No, we need to let Collins do his job

                
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Post ID: 426822by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:49 PM PST
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I wouldn't think so. I think it's DC and JJ. But who knows?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426823by Voyeur » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:54 PM PST
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Doc said he was actually happiest with Blake. Because BG even though they would pound it inside to him, he recognized that wasn't working because the team needed to move the ball more. Says he liked the unselfishness of Blake's attitude.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426824by itsLuigi » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:57 PM PST
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i wish collins passed a little more omstead of taking wild shots. I'm all in for redick to start. i think redick is a better facilitator.

                
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Post ID: 426825by Barnes » Jan 04, 2014 - 10:59 PM PST
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JC should play point. He used to start at point for the Warriors and even scored 50.

                
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Post ID: 426826by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:04 PM PST
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No thanks!

                
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Post ID: 426827by itsLuigi » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:05 PM PST
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yeah i like wouldn't mind that either him at the 1 and jj at the 2

this might sound dumb but i would try letting dudley play sg. let barnes start at sf and have jamal at the 1.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426828by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:09 PM PST
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^ You're totally right... it does sound dumb.

                
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Post ID: 426829by clipper321 » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:09 PM PST
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Not saying I don't agree with you Cleepers in your assessment of our friend here, but there was a contingent of Clipper fans that wanted to try out Bledsoe as the starting SG.

                
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Post ID: 426830by CapsNClips » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:09 PM PST
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We already have a hard enough time getting the ball to Griffin. Jamal running things is an awful idea.

Jamal seems to never pass to Blake for some reason, not that he passes it that much to begin with.

                
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Post ID: 426831by clipper321 » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:10 PM PST
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LOL what's over? It's a regular season game now get off that ledge.

                
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Post ID: 426833by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:12 PM PST
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Yeah, but he's scoring 19ppg with the ball in his hands... JJ gets 16 just running around. And he still only costs us 2/3 of what Bled will as a FA. This joker thinks we'd score 20 points more per night if we'd kept Bled.

                
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Post ID: 426834by clipper321 » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:17 PM PST
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God that's really dense.

                
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Post ID: 426836by david » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:30 PM PST
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That's true, I'm just saying the scheme should be adjusted vs certain teams. Effort has a lot to do with it, but you can try your hardest but the speed & talent simply might not be there to keep up with a guy like Tony Parker or Manu Ginobilli.

I think I'd rather have them shoot open-ish 20 footers than be constantly allowed to go into the lane and wreak havoc. That's why Splitter got so many points. The Clippers just don't have many wing defender guys like Tony Allen or Aaron Afflalo who have the capability to keep up with their own guys and then help on others.

                
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Post ID: 426837by david » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:31 PM PST
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That's it- banned- can't say I didn't warn you, lol.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426838by A_DOG_NAMED_BUD » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:39 PM PST
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On the bright side, JJ will be back in about 11 days. There's no replacing CP3, but at least we can go back to having JJ start and Jamal back as the 6th man. It will nice to have some consistent shooting from the behind the arc.

                
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Post ID: 426839by cleepers » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:39 PM PST
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Yeah, not a lot of guys can keep up with Parker when he's running off screens (many of them dubiously legal, but refs love Timmy). I agree with you about making him a jumpshooter. When he does drive, that's where our rim protector is supposed to stop him, but DJ seemed a bit timid in that department tonight. Looked like he was afraid of the whistle, then fouled out on dumb mistakes anyway.

Still, it was a likely schedule loss anyway. Hopefully we don't dig the same type of hole again.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426841by ClippersDA » Jan 04, 2014 - 11:54 PM PST
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I wish we had sent a different message tonight, but i am not sure we have the talent to just keep rolling along

                
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Post ID: 426844by D_AndreBBeater » Jan 05, 2014 - 12:02 AM PST
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No. Lots of talent in the West. We gave up Bledsoe.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Clippers Vs. Spurs Official Game Thread 2014-01-04 Post ID: 426845by cleepers » Jan 05, 2014 - 12:06 AM PST
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^ He's ba-ack!

                
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Post ID: 426846by D_AndreBBeater » Jan 05, 2014 - 12:26 AM PST
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why do you say that? who is back?

                
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