Hedo Turkoglu to the Clippers Now Official (P. 5)

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CapsNClips
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He played what? 12 games that year and was injured the entire time. You sure show slack to injured players when it's somebody you've backed (Dudley)

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I never really understood why Doc was given such high authority! I think the Clippers overreacted to his coaching greatness! Pop also has the same if not more authority than Doc, but he has been....

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Where is it written that Clips signed Hedo?

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He hasn't been signed yet. Doesn't mean it's not GOING to happen, just not official yet.

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And that's the point, he played 12 games last year and the year before that he wasn't very good either...plus he's 34 years old. Not sure how many caution signs are needed before you go off the cliff...night and day stituations between him and Dudley.

CapsNClips
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Well when you find that unsigned 27 year old stud big man who's 100% healthy and has a PER of +18 make sure you notify Doc first. I'm sure he's very busy trying his hardest not to sign the perfect player so he'd be very grateful.

tense2
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Oh vey, not asking for a young above average player, just someone who's not over the hill and at least gets a test drive before he's signd for a guarranteed contract.

austin009009
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we keep looking at old washed up players that nobody wants...

austin009009
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we should look at younger players rather than injury prone 34 year old

austin009009
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clippers should learn a lesson from stephen jackson

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Completely agree with you @austin009009

I really can't see Hedo contributing much to this team. Maybe if this was 4 years ago then I would like the signing, but I wonder how much he has left now.

austin009009
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showing that he averaged only 2ppg last season in 12 games shows he is done.

CapsNClips
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Any suggestions??

clipperkyle
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invent a time machine and stop the clippers from ever signing mullins, jamison, hedo, and jackson.

jazclipcity3
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Has ANYBODY seen footage of him NOW playing?? I'm not sure why everybody is worried. Just because we failed with Stephen Jackson doesn't mean he'll be the same. We gotta trust Doc ....he was impressed so maybe there's something there.

tense2
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Pursue Bynum a little harder. Try and trade for Reggie using the TPE. Sign Turk to ONLY a 10 contract. Wait to see what's available at the trade deadline.

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If only, LOL.

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I don't think people aren't prepared to give him a shot, but a 10-day deal seems to be the smart move, not a guaranteed deal.

Still, the only source that has said he's going to get a full-season contract is a Turkish reporter... I'm skeptical to say the least.

I'm not going to judge Doc at least for another month. There are too many moving parts. I'd feel pretty silly ripping him to shreds only to find that Turk is just a replacement for Barnes, who's getting packaged along with Mullens for a solid bench big man, for example.

Que sera, sera.

tense2
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Yep, there maybe a trade (Jamal?, Barnes?) in the works. But Hedo??... we'll have to wait and see I guess.

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Everyone who is worried about the full guaranteed contract, go back on the last page and read my post if you missed it. It's not that much worse, and we still have flexibility to take another swing at more people if they don't work.

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Signing Hedo doesn't prevent us from doing any of those things. After tonight Darius is off the books and then after Knicks game Wayns is off the books.

I'd rather save out last 10 day contract for Bynum who has proven to be a cancer in the locker room.

tense2
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Got that, but still 400K is 400K. Seems wiser to kick the tires on a guy who hasn't played in the NBA in over a year and then IF he works out...

CapsNClips
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Yep, no need to waist a 10 day contract. We only get one left.

Doc knows what he's doing.

tense2
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No reason why we can sign BOTH to a 10 day deal. Not one of those guys (agents) is holding the reins in any negotiations is all I'm saying.

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Barnes makes a lot more sense to me. Hedo should be able to replace his (limited) perimeter production this season, and switching him with Bullock in late-game 'D' for 'O' substitutions could theoretically replace his defense. Plus, we have Dudley who, when healthy, should provide a balance of both.

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I'm all for trading Barnes. Maybe we should trade him for that guy who we should've signed with our MLE Carl Landry.

I would love Patrick Patterson (not gonna happen) or Earl Clarke

tense2
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Personally for me, when healthy Barnes is the more valuable/versatile player so losing Jamal wouldn't be a killer for me. Like I said, we'll see if anything happens.

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On a nightly basis, I'd agree... but I think it's imperative that we have a guy who can pull a rabbit from a hat with 4 seconds left in playoff games when better defensive teams inevitably take the ball out of CP's hands.

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Hedo being super clutch.

Ball.

Last but not least, Hedo the gangster.

tense2
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Well since neither hasn't exactly torn it up in previous PO's (Barnes wan't too bad last year)....eh. Think Redick could/does fill that roll just nicely. Oh well, to each his own mate.

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^ Game 6 did Barnes' averages a lot of favors last year. I think 4th Q scoring numbers, ball-handling and the intangible of giving CP3 some breathing room is a bit more relevant to my point.

Catch and shoot from a CP3 dish? ...Redick all day, every day.

Create something from nothing because CP is getting smothered? ...give me Jamal.

I hope to see them both on the floor during critical offensive possessions this year.

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@andrewthehan: Asked if interest in Odom had waned, Doc said they were looking at everyone and will continue to look at everyone, guards and bigs. Now it went from we aren't looking at any bigs to....

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I can understand moving Barnes, but man that will be a heartbreaker if it does go down. Outside of Redick, Barnes is my favorite player

tense2
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^^^Then I guess the odds of getting somebody productive (Big) in a trade just went way down. wink

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maybe doc is talking up hedo so he can trade him?

itsLuigi
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patterson could be possible. toronto has a couple of PFs i think they might be open to it

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Pop has a lot of say in the moves in that they want to get players that fit what he does, but R.C. Buford is the GM in San Antonio.

Pop though used to be a GM in San Antonio before he became a coach and he gave the GM position to Buford in 2002, so he hasn't been a GM/coach for some time now.

Doc might be hurt by an overconfidence in his ability to mold certain players / players skills into useful on court production, that is what I suggested before. It will be a learning process for him in terms of having both roles, but he isn't the lone guy making GM decisions either.

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Doc is a very experienced coach but very inexperienced with his GM powers, obviously there is some cross over but the guy no doubt needs some time to learn that part of the business.

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breaking news!!! Hedo just sign contract with us I'm excited to see what he can do.

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Welcome Hedo. Don't the clippers do Turkish night at Staples? Now we have an actual player from Turkey

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Nice I hope he has something left in the tank !!

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Clipper Kyle, what do you expect?

Yes Docs make some share of mistake. That's bound to happen. But if you think during that time, it was low risk, high reward kind of thing. Doc have a vision on what's this team will be like. He tried, he fail. But you can't discredit his success in bringing JJ Redick and in smaller extent, Jared Dudley. Plus this is the first time around as GM. Think about Neil Oshley back in his first year in GM, he sign Ryan Gomes, Randy Foye, and Brian Cook, but most people of here claimed he was the greatest GM in Clipper history because of Bledsoe and Chris Paul. Just give him time to learn the rope.

Also, I do not think Doc Rivers would have come here if he was not offer an executive job. He did not want to work for Donald Sterling at first because of their history. But when Donald and Gary Sacks offered that position, it was too good to pass up especially with a team of Blake Griffin and Chris Paul. He get to control and dictate whatever team he wanted be.

If you worry about the aftermath like Mike D, don't worry about it because at least Doc have some bit of experience working with Danny Ainge making a championship caliber team in Boston. Just wait and see about Doc's job before you start judging his work. It's only half of season so far.

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Partial Orlando Magic reunion with Barnes, JJ, and Hedo.

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I went on holiday to Turkey for the last 3 years. Great place.

Welcome Hedo!

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Apparently Hedo had a very good workout that impressed. He doesn't really have to do too much actually- just get to the right spots and hit 3's. He is a career 38% from deep, which is much higher than Jamison/Mullens, and I imagine that's where the bulk of his minutes will be coming from as a stretch 4. That's especially the case when the Clippers encounter opposing bigs who like to shoot jumpers vs posting up.

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I am not sure what to feel about this but if Hedo plays around his 2011 level I would be happy. Chances are that isn't going to happen though. We will see.

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You hit on the master plan, the next move is to a 3-way deal with Houston and Orl.

Clips get - Dwight and Nelson

Hou gets - Afflalo and DJ

Orl gets - Collison and Asik

Doc remembers the Magic knocking his Bos team out years ago and is rebuilding that team here in LA.

Lol

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He'll never play to that level ever again. I just want him to shoot efficiently and helps facilitate the offense.

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He was hurt last year, but he has more than that going against him. First his numbers weren't merely fat Boris Diaw or tendonitis Jared Dudley level bad, they were Stephen Jackson get fairly cut quickly bad. Second he stunk it up at Eurobasket this summer where as far as I can tell he was mostly healthy. On top of that also was suspended for PEDs and he'll by turning 35 years old in a couple months.

He could work out though and if he doesn't we can dump him and add someone else, so he's not that bad of a risk, but he's definitely a longshot.

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