Rumor: Clippers Possibility Of Acquiring Lebron James (P. 2)

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JQuick32
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I would too. Nothing against CP3, he'll always be one of my favorite players, but it's far easier to build a championship team around players like LBJ and Blake than it is to build one around a ball-dominant point guard like Chris.

Ideally, though, since we'd have all the leverage if LeBron were to demand a sign-and-trade to the Clippers, we wouldn't need to give up either one. A CP3/Blake/LBJ trio would dominate the league, especially once Blake hits his prime, and be far better than the current Heat Big Three.

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I believe we already have 2 top 5 players in the NBA. Imagine acquiring LeBron while keeping Blake and having 3 of the top 5 players. Dynasty!

  1. LeBron (soon to be Clipper)

  2. Durant

  3. Paul (Clipper)

  4. Griffin (Clipper)

  5. George (should've been a Clipper)

divinebeast
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No you wouldn't

If you've survived half the stuff that's been flung at Clipper fans throughout the franchises history trading Blake for Lebron would not push you over the edge

I wouldn't do it and I'd be extremely sad if it happened but you'd still have the best player of this generation on your team to root for

Trust me you'd learn to live with it

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I got over EJ for CP3, but I'm a Lebron hater to be honest. I don't like the way he's done it. I give him his props where they are due, but he's done it the half a$$ way in my opinion. It would take me quite a bit to get over it, and that's if I did. If Magic and Bird joined forces they could have won a ton of titles, if Wilkins would have joined Jordan probably wouldn't have to wait for Pippen, if Russell and Chamberlain joined forces Russel would have won 11 more if they wanted to.

I hate the Yankees, and feel like that what he's been doing to the league (just go out and buy a championship). Where is the individual competitive fire, and pride?

Loyalty has to work both ways. Blake has been the first player in a long time that has shown it to us as well as Donald returning it (EJ probably would have been the first, but that didn't work out in the end).

I guess I still root for the Dodgers, and they have been heading in that direction too. At least they still have Kemp and Kershaw.

JQuick32
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Magic threatened to stay in school if the Bulls won the coin flip for the #1 pick, because he wanted to play with Kareem and the Lakers. Wilt forced a trade to the Sixers to play with Hal Greer. Kobe threatened to go to Europe if the Nets drafted him and forced the Hornets to trade him to the Lakers so he could play with Shaq.

It's amazing how only LeBron gets **** for leaving a horrible team for a better team when he's far from the only one to do it.

kjavis
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such a hard decision outside of blake, lebron is my next fav and respected player, he balls in a different universe

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LeBron James is an outstanding player, but I would rather have Blake Griffin here with the Clippers. Trading Blake would be depressing. Blake's established himself as a dominant power forward with the Clippers and with his solid work ethic, he's only going to improve even more in the years to come. Would I want LeBron James on our Clippers team? Heck yeah. But definitely not at the expense of Blake. If we can dream, how ideal would it be to have Blake, LeBron, and CP3 together? That would be a monumental "BIG 3" right there, lol.

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Here's an interesting thought. What happens to Wade if LeBron signs somewhere else? Does that said team get a D Wade on a cheap contract just so he can finish his career with LeBron.

He's already stated wherever LeBron goes he goes.

I've always been a HUGE Wade fan, he's one of my favorite players of all time.

LAC Dream Team *note that this a dream not a reality

PG:Paul

SG:Wade

SF:LeBron

PF:Griffin

C:Who gives a sh*t, put Mullens there for all I care.

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The thing that you guys aren't considering is say we don't win these next few years blake is under contract. We all love Blake and want him to play out his career as a clipper but who's to say he actually does it? He can easily pull an Elton Brand and just bolt. I love Blake but if i'm the front office I at least have to consider the idea of going after Lebron.

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I know the first thing if Lebron want to go LA, Miami would ask for BG.

THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN!

If lebron clearly tell Miami that he want to be a Clippers and will sign with them, Miami have no choice but let him be. However, if Lebron want more money and years, he can ask Miami to get what you can get or else they are getting nothing. My guess that if Lebron is trade to Clippers, most likely would consist of DJ, dudley, first round pick.

Question for everyone,

If you are Donald Sterling, you have an opportunity to land the greatest player on the league today, will you go way over the tax theshold to keep Lebron, CP3, and Blake Griffin.

Think about it. think about the endorsement deal, television deal, raise ticket prices, jersey sells, etc. I think Donald will do that.

JQuick32
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Donald is many things, but "stupid" is not one of them. With a new TV deal on the horizon, there's no way he'd turn down an opportunity like that.

clips4life32
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What about this senario. Can't LeBron sign a two year deal at the mid-level exception, with the second year being a player option and then offer him an extension to the level of cash that he would command for 4-5 years after? Basically, he would sacrifice less money for a year so we won't have to trade Blake, and then offer an extension later?

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+1 he IS the most dominant right now

Laak
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Agree with the building around Lebron part, but definitely not Chris Paul. Not matter how good the a PF or center is, it is much much easier to rely upon a star perimeter player when it matters the most. They got more room to work with, and for a guy like Chris, he can always create space for a good shot. PF and center have very limited space to generate offensive, plus it's easier to trap and double-team them. You can pass the ball to your best PF or center, but chances of getting a good shot off ain't high.

Heediot
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Dirk says hi. Duncan in his prime can get his also. But the hand checking rules make it easier for perimeter guys to create, I agree.

Heediot
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I would`t want a championship by signing LeBron and going the easy way out.

JQuick32
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I just want a championship. Nitpicking how it was done is missing the point.

CapsNClips
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But stealing Chris Paul from NO and Doc Rivers from Boston is okay? What's the difference?

Every Clipper fan would love a David vs Goliath story, but when you already have The best PF, PG and Coach in the league, I can tell you one thing. We ain't David.

Heediot
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We traded assets for those guys, it was a legit team build, unlike the cop out under the table agreement in Miami.

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I dont fall for social constructions of worthiness. No championship, no biggie. As long as you try your best within your own power and with integrity thats how I approach life.

Society continues to perpetuates false illusions of happiness and fulfillment. Screw all the legacy and other bull crap.

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We'd have to get rid of a ton of players just to take on LeBrons contract in Free Agency, but we'd probably have to do a sign & trade with Miami.

We'd probably have to give them DJ, Craw, Bullock and some 1st rounders.

Heediot
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Your proposal is a nice fantasy scenario, but these sources with rumors just throw a bunch of hypothetical scenarios to get hits and views. Plenty of rumors are conjured up to feed the sheep.

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We already traded our asset in Mullen and Jamison

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Umm......huh??

Heediot
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I dont think a sign and trade for DJ and fillers would cut it. Even the original scenario of them asking for Blake is rubbish. We are way over the cap, and its not that easy to s & t like that. Where`s the leverage and why would Miami do that. LBJ interest in the Clips, is also pure speculation.

People just have to be aware of the role of media and their reporters, hits and views = $$$. They'll toss out anything to the general viewer who's craving excitement and change. Just insert source (who knows could be a janitor, or who knows) and run with a fake or weak story.

Edit: At least your proposal involves an exchange of assets, some other dudes were thinking MLE for LeBron.

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This subject is really testing my outlook on the NBA. I have always felt the NBA as a business and there is absolutely no loyalty at all but Blake for LBJ is really questioning my line of thought. If we trade Blake, we are turning our backs on the one guy in our team's history that has made the most impact to our success so far. Without him, we would still be the laughing stock of sports. What if we actually do trade Blake away, get LBJ and not win. On the other hand, Blake into his prime makes Miami stronger, attracts better free agents to Miami, and build them up like he did to us. We will then back to be the same old Clipps. Blake has given us so much and I will break my rule and keep him. He has not reach his prime. Once he does, we will have many years of winning many championships.

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Miami would have Zero leverage if he says he's leaving. Pat Riley is smart enough to know he can't just let LeBron go for nothing.

I don't think we'll get LeBron, but my whole argument from the beginning was if you have a chance to get LeBron, you get LeBron. Championships should be our only goal.

Heediot
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Logically speaking championships should be the only goal. I am more subjective and view things differently. Oh well.

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We all need to stop and get a reality check here. First off, Miami is powerless IF LeBron James WANTS a change of scenery! IF LeBron is really considering it, Miami has got to take....

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Love that most of you guys are totally against trading Blake for the LB! But me, I'm a realist in this situation. Bron is Bron and he's one of the GOATs. Blake has the potential is almost touch that pedestal if he continues to grow but Bron is the benchmark.

I understand difference in age but you also have to consider injury history and the way these two guys play. Blake is a lunatic on the court and has had a major injury in his past. Bron has rarely missed time in his career and takes much less punishment night to night. Bron will start the slow decline after this season but I'd be wiling to bet he'll be one of the top 5 players in the league at age 35. Blake probably won't last that long unless he changes his game.

I'll trade Blake for Bron or KD with KD being first choice. Nobody else is worth moving the face of the franchise.

JQuick32
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From Mark Heisler's annual letter to Donald:

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Shoot... I'd be happy with a back to form Granger.. he had flashes of good plays tonight.... Our 2nd stringers are just garbage and mishanled the ball.

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If LBJ will walk into our door Donald should open the door. Smile

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If Bron really put the pressure he could probably make it happen. DJ/Dudley + whatever. I'd be fine with Bullock and this year's draft choice if need be. Just no 10 future picks deals.

CP with Bron and Blake is just not fair to the game of basketball. Having 3 PGs on the court and 2 of them are freaks of nature. It would be unstoppable.

JQuick32
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The ball movement that a CP3/Bron/Blake Big Three would provide would put the Spurs to shame.

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Lol Bron/Wade/Bosh was also not fair to the game either. I have no qualms Razz. Doubt it happens though.

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It would be very amusing to contrast CP3/Blake/Bron to the Lakers Marshall/Sacre/Young trio. I really think the Clippers have a good chance at LeBron.

As one who is totally disallusioned by the Jim Buss Lakers (to be honest, I am rooting for the Clippers to win the NBA Title, am watching the games and will likely go to Staples but I am not yet a full fledged Clippers fan), I am wondering "How the hell did the Clippers do it?"

It was quite an astounding turnaround. As amazing as taking the Lakers franchise and turning it into spit.

Wow, the world sure does change quickly.

BTW...trading Blake for LeBron is insanity. Griffin is actually better than LeBron. And younger. And more hair. And more exciting. 'Nuff said.

Laak
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Quit kidding yourself. LBJ's a perimeter player, and his FG% is almost as high as Griffin's true shooting %. There ain't 1 single aspect Blake does better than Lebron. That includes dunking.

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Point by point.

  1. LeBron, by definition of his position is a better three point shooter than Blake BUT....

  2. Blake is younger. No argument there.

  3. Blake is a better interior rebounder -- again, by definition of his position.

  4. LeBron is at his peak. Griffin will only get better.

  5. Blake's "true shooting percentage" is not all dunks anymore. He is shooting fifteen footers -- and longer -- now. This criticism doesn't hold water anymore. (It would for DeAndre, not BG.)

  6. As to dunking, I find Blake's much more entertaining. This, of course, is subjective. Then again, dunking over a Kia gets you some dunking props.

On balance, I would take Griffin. And don't talk rings. The only reason LeBron has two is because Manu missed a free throw. Yes, luck counts. But not in a mano-a-mano comparison.

And he still has more hair. LOL!

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Blake as a rebounder doesn't feel like a super strong suit at the moment. I hate those games when he ends up with 4 or 5

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Lol relax.

BaadMaster
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I didn't say Blake was a perfect player; neither is LeBron. What you cannot argue is that I prefer watching Blake over LeBron. Nevertheless, until either gets up the greatness scale to approach MJ, they are both vying for second GOAT.

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Well argued Baad.

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Lebron James is the best player in the NBA and of course better than Blake. But the NBA is a team game so being the best doesn't mean championship.

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I watched Skip to my lou and What's His Name and it gave me pause. Money is money as a rose is a Rose as is injured.(Gertrude Stein) It makes no difference where money comes from. CP3 and BG are the richest when it comes to endorsements. How much is Cliff Paul making? .CP shoes. BG Subway Kia, Video game, Nike. LeBron smartly has taken diction lessons but sorry LBJ you ain't as good looking as our boys BUT as a Clipper how much more could he make?? A couple of Mill easy. Forget trading BG. LAC are now darlings thanks to handsome stars and a lot of people still hate the HEAT. I still think Cleveland

For you youngsters "Skip to my lou" is an old song. Lou is actually a nautical term "Lee" pronounced lou. There is windward which faces the wind and leeward (Louward) away from the wind. The song refers to an empty noisy bucket being blow overboard into the ocean.

JQuick32
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I'm a huge Blake homer. But to say he's better than LeBron right now is just ludicrous. LeBron is clearly the best player in the league. The only reasons not to trade Blake for him are that Blake's younger, sentimental reasons (Blake turned this franchise around), and because we would have the leverage if LeBron demands an S&T here.

And to say LeBron only has two rings because Manu missed a free throw is pretty ignorant. LeBron dominated that entire series, leading everyone in points, assists, and steals, brought Miami back in Game 6 even as Wade was wrecking the Heat's spacing, and then drained jumper after jumper on the Spurs' asses in Game 7. The series was still close because the Spurs were a ridiculously good team as well and Duncan turned back the clock into his prime.

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LeBron screwed his own pooch. He has the talent to be one of the five GOAT but he didn't have the heart. Wilt, MJ. Oscar, Russell and LBJ He didn't even know how great Mr. Russell was - is.

BG is a work in progress. His post play while unorthodox is working. Like LBJ he's learning to be a PG. His jumper is better and he has hit threes. He is now learning to drive to the hoop. He is more athletic than LBJ and just as strong. It's hard to have triple doubles when playing with CP. In three years he will be better than LBJ

I'll bet a Kobe Tee Shirt. Who ever is wrong has to wear one.

JQuick32
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LeBron will retire as at very least a top two player of all time, possibly even as the GOAT. Leaving him out of the top five is laughable at this point. Can't really say he doesn't have heart when after the beating he took in 2011, he came back and silenced his critics two years in a row.

I will say this, though - watching Heat/Clippers a month ago and seeing LeBron and Blake going toe-to-toe was an eyeopener. For all the hype about the Stick Insect, a prime Blake could be LeBron's true rival.

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You can say we didn't land on the moon, you can say that OJ was innocent, you can say that Dominique Wilkins was the GOAT. These are all OPINIONS.

But this is FACT: Manu makes both free throws, the Spurs win. This cannot be argued. Or if that other guy makes both. Either one.

Not saying luck doesn't help. But in this case, it was essential for his second ring.

On the subjective side, I simply do not like LeBron. There is no law that says I have to. Besides, LeBron never won -- or even entered -- the Slam Dunk contest. And he never jumped OVER A CAR to win it.

LeBron is a lot of hype. And Blake has to overcome the anti-Clippers bias that still is part of the League and its hype-meisters.

Thus, I am biased toward BG becoming the "face" of the NBA.

A title this year would be a big step in that direction.

JQuick32
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BaadMaster wrote:
But this is FACT: Manu makes both free throws, the Spurs win. This cannot be argued.

Manu's free throws don't matter if LeBron doesn't bring the Heat back into the game to begin with. And even then, why does Manu's missed FT matter more than, say, his 8 turnovers in that game? You can't just reduce it down to one play.

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LeBron is a lot of hype.

Two rings as the alpha of his team (not a glorified role player like Kobrick) and four MVP's isn't hype, it's substance.

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