JJ Reddick Injury News/Update (P. 5)

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TheDude
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He's the best shooter on our team and 50% of Redick is better than 100% of Willie or Bullock. You don't shut a vet down during a PO run when they have a nagging injury that gets better with rest. If he can run around and make a shot, he plays. Shut him down after the season.

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Will he hurt the team like Jameer Nelson? If he comes back during the playoff he's gonna be used for special circumstances. I don't think he's gonna automatically get the minutes. Like what the other poster said, I hope he comes back for the last ten games just to get in game shape mode

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A bulging disc doesn't get THAT much better with rest, if anything the amount of time he's been out should tell you that. The first amount of contact going through a pick and the Clippers will have to adjust their rotation again. They need to get a consistent rotation now, not late in the first round or early in the second. And 50% of a player is never good enough to have on the court, especially in the playoffs when the physicality is tripled.

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I've given up waiting on jj to return this season. Jamal needs to come back in a real way. We really need his offensive production.

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Agreed. I think Jamal is a big unknown for defenses. He can score and dish. If he can put up 20+ a game, and Granger putting up 15 off the bench, we'll be looking real good.

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Granger needs to avg like 10-12 off that bench.

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I think he'll get more than that. Doc seems to favor his back to the basket game. If we can surround him with shooters in the second unit that will help stretch the D.

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100% agreed,he won't be back if he did he would be too out of shape to help.

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Read what Clipper Steve wrote on TOS. You shut down a high pick on a rookie deal who has a delicate injury like Nerlens Noel because it's a long term investment. You don't "shut down" your veteran starter. The doctors come to Doc and say he's 100% in mid-may and we're in the conference finals and he's supposed to say oh sorry we already shut him down, keep him in street clothes and I'll go with Willie instead? If he can't go or if he's sucking, he doesn't play. That's Doc's decision to make in-game. At worst, use him off the bench in situations where you want a 3. Even if he gets re-injured, who cares, he has all summer to recover.

Caron made himself available with a broken hand two years ago in the POs and he played a lot of minutes.

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JJ posted videos today about him working out running shooting and the caption said trying to get on the court this is good news and he look pretty good I hope that he comes back soon

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This is really great news! Perhaps he's ready to roll on Saturday??? I sure hope he comes back soon.

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Link? I tried searching for an instagram or something, but I didn't find anything.

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i saw it too. He seems to be moving well, but I wonder how his back can handle in-game situations like body contact.

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I mean this is great news. The one thing is that JJ has been quiet throughout this entire injury. He decides to share a video now the same week it was rumored him and jamal....

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Video please

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The real machine

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Video please
You have to click on it. Here is a link http://instagram.com/p/ltWrmIRO6X/ ....

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calipublicist
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Well I'll tell you what I'd be completely ecstatic to be wrong on this one, Redick stretches the floor in a way that Jamal can't. Moving Redick back into the fold, also means we can get a great knock down shooter on the floor when Granger is posting smaller guards/forwards.

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YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Once he heard he might not play in the playoffs he kicked it into overdrive since he is a pretty competitive player

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Aw good news, can't wait to see him back, hopefully Jamal is also ready, and hope to see our complete roster before the start of the PO.

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Great news, just enough games left to shake off the rust. More importantly though, the entire team will finally be able to develop chemistry at their original position.

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I hope both jj and jamal play like we were used to. Jamal actually worries me more. He is a rhythm player. His good and bad games come in streaks. And now he is totally out of rhythm

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Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just shooting for JJ, don't they have to go through full contact drills like scrimmages before they're cleared?

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Correct. The tweet says this:

"chance he could return to practice this week."

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Ppl are getting way too excited. I don't think he plays until game 1 of the playoffs if not a game or 2 before the playoffs. I would like him to play on Saturday since I'm gonna be at the game, but not likely.

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The shooting video is what we have been seeing all along. At minimum we need to see some one on one contact drills with coaches to see if he can take bumps. Can he even run?

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Have you guys seem his Funny or Die video?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f2b544 ... ss-bracket

Dunkathon
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If you watch the video Kyle posted, he is definitely running. Check out the second pane.

I think he'll be able to participate in practice definitely. Would love to see him back in a Clippers uniform on Saturday or Monday.

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Running on curls but my running comment was more to up and down full court. If a team gets a rebound or steal on us can he run back or if rotating on d can he chase a shooter off a shot and recover. Quick reactions that can put pressure on the back.

Love that he is trying just waiting for the next hurdle physically to be cleared.

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What the hell do you guys think he's dealing with? It's just a bulging disk. I'd be willing to bet a good portion of players are dealing with them and we have no idea and they might not either.

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Not really getting too excited.....................there was talk of him never playing again. Him playing in the PO's beats that by a long long way.

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Not true. Bulging discs cause pinched nerves and severe pain on movement also shooting pain in your butt and down your legs. It can be so bad you can't get out of bed. Often they heal but sometimes they require surgery. This is I think what happened to D12.

A first hand opinion of somebody with one.

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I'm also talking with experience. I have a bulging disk, a herniated disk (fragmented). You're wrong about Dwight Howard, he had a herniated disk. Big difference. I'm not saying that JJ has no pain, or that bulging disks don't cause pain. I'm just saying that I haven't heard anything about his pain. The only thing I've read or heard was that he had an MRI and spotted the bulge.

Everyone on this board is acting like he's been dealing with a herniated disk and that there is no way he can play. A bulging disk is a pretty common thing and there is not reason to think that JJ can't play.

This is from the Mayo Clinic:

Disks act as cushions between the vertebrae in your spine. They're composed of an outer layer of tough cartilage that surrounds softer cartilage in the center. It may help to think of them as miniature jelly doughnuts, exactly the right size to fit between your vertebrae.

A bulging disk extends outside the space it should normally occupy. The bulge typically affects a large portion of the disk, so it may look a little like a hamburger that's too big for its bun. The part of the disk that's bulging is typically the tough outer layer of cartilage. Bulging usually is considered part of the normal aging process of the disk.

A herniated disk, on the other hand, results when a crack in the tough outer layer of cartilage allows some of the softer inner cartilage to protrude out of the disk. Herniated disks are also called ruptured disks or slipped disks.

Bulging disks are more common and usually cause no pain. Herniated disks are more likely to cause pain, but some cause no pain whatsoever.

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Nice post. It's true they've never said he's in a lot of pain from the bulging disk. So they're probably just holding him out until it's close to PO's in hopes that he can get through 20 games without making it worse.

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Well, there we have it lol. I suppose this is good news, if the reported diagnosis is what JJ is actually dealing with.

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thanks guys, I'm just trying to contribute. I mentioned that Quick helped the Kings win the cup with a herniated disk. Here is the write up from the hospital.

He led the L.A. Kings to victory in the 2012 Stanley Cup with superhuman goalkeeping performances. Later that year, Jonathan Quick revealed that during the Cup run, he was plagued by back pain whenever he rested or sat down. It hadn't subsided in the offseason, and something had to be done.

Quick visited the Kings' team doctor, who brought him to Dr. Robert Watkins IV, co-director of the Marina spine-surgery program. After Dr. Watkins diagnosed him with a herniated disc that pinched his sciatic nerve, Quick underwent surgery to correct the problem.

Quick's recovery was aided by the labor dispute that delayed the start of the 201213 season. By the time the Kings got back on the ice, Quick was ready to join his teammates.

Again, I haven't heard anything about the pain that JJ is dealing with. This is what leads me to believe that they kept him out for the stretch run and playoffs so that what they found on the MRI didn't worsen or get to a point where it did cause pain. JJ is key and Doc knows how important Ray was for his Celtics team.

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There has yet to be a report that gives a date he will be capable of running all drills and contact. Regardless if herniated or bulging disk we have yet to hear him take another step. All fans can go by is what is reported and the reports have been mostly no progression pass shooting drills.

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I'm inclined to agree with you. We haven't exactly "needed" JJ lately like we will in the playoffs. If it was anything that would keep him out of the postseason, they'd have probably had him have surgery sooner rather than later.

Real solid last couple of posts. Rep for that.

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Please don't believe everything you read on the internet. Those things are watered down to the point that they are semi correct even Mayo Clinic. It's meant for laypersons. They often use non technical terms to make them "digestible"

A disc is a shock absorber and is composed of a fibrous capsule and a jelly like center called the nucleus pulposis. "Bulging discs" cause no problem. That is when the disc pooches out but doesn't tear. A huge % of people show "bulging discs" on MRI and most are incidental findings and cause no symptoms. Hernia means "tear". Herniated disc result from the nucleus pulposis, extruding from the ruptured fibrous capsule. The problem is that the herniation presses on the adjacent nerve roots causing neuropathic pain, nerve pain. Nerve pain is excruciating almost impossible to treat because it is not responsive to things like morphine etc. Actually a good remedy for neuropathic pain is medical marijuana. Continued pressure on the nerve can cause nerve death resulting in a "foot drop" Most herniated discs resolve without surgery bur some don't. The most common are from L2 to S1 The presentation is a burning pain on the outside of the thigh going down to the foot. Also in severe pain in the buttocks are called Sciatica. It matters not whether his nerve root compression comes from a bulging disc or a herniated disc the problem is the same, compression and injury to the spinal nerves. If the nerve root compression is not resolved surgery, is required to remove the disc. If you are kept at rest and things are allowed to heal usually you are OK but a huge % of people have lifelong problems. D12 probably had a nerve root compression that didn't resolve

Bottom line. He was most probably suffering from nerve root compression (a pinched nerve/nerves)

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AGAIN, I'm talking from experience, let me know what your email is and I'll send over a copy of my MRI. I've had neurosurgeons tell me they don't understand how I'm in not in more pain where I'm asking for meds. Some days were really painful, some days I couldn't sit without being having to lay down on the floor in my office (thank god I own my own company). Again, I had a bulging disk and one herniated. I felt a great deal of pain every day.

Almost every thing you can find will confirm that a bulging disk RARELY causes pain, your experience might be different. Mine is. But that doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

I have a ton of experience with these issues and I know what I'm talking about. I can also speculate about a player based on the information given. And the given information is that he was dealing with a number of ailments, one was a hip issue I believe, and he had an MRI performed and they found the bulge. I haven't heard one word about his pain.

The bottom line is that I'm not arguing that JJ isn't in pain, but we hear about the pain the players are dealing with on a daily bases. Jamal can't run and jump because of his calf, Paul couldn't shoot because of the pain in his shoulder, Dudley sucked all year because he had pain in his knees, JJ wasn't feeling pain in his wrist when his cast came off. Am I missing something? OH YEAH, NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT JJ'S BACK OTHER THAN HE HAS A BULGE. Nothing about pain, nothing about discomfort, just that they found a bulge and that they are giving him rest. And based on the information readily available to everyone, it isn't hard to come to the conclusion that JJ might not have ever been in very much pain at all from the bulge and that he really could in fact play.

I'm not a big fan of people just making general comments to just make general comments because they had this one experience with it at some time in the past so all other experiences with it must be exactly the same as there's.

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He's also talking from experience

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Jj Redick will play Saturday!!!!

Brad turner said on twitter!!!

Hell yeah!!!

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06clippersfan wrote:
Jj Redick will play Saturday!!!!

Brad turner said on twitter!!!

Hell yeah!!!

Here's the actual tweet. Unfortunately, I think the period is supposed to be a comma. Great to hear JJ, Jamal, and Darren will all practice today.

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Dunkathon wrote:

Here's the actual tweet. Unfortunately, I think the period is supposed to be a comma. Great to hear JJ, Jamal, and Darren will all practice today.

Yup I think you're right! Oh well, still good news that he is going to practice. Hopefully he plays on Monday when I'm at that game haha

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06clippersfan wrote:
Yup I think you're right! Oh well, still good news that he is going to practice. Hopefully he plays on Monday when I'm at that game haha

If all goes well in practice tomorrow I think Jamal will play. Its no coincidence Jamal is back at practice on his birthday either. JJ is still a week away imo opinion

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I'm talking from more than personal experience although I have had the same problem that you had. I can remember sleeping in the seat of the car.

I am familiar with many more than one example of disc disease and back pain in general. Again this is more that personal experience. Bottom line is that everybody's body is different. With documented disc problems we often never find out the cause. Also sometimes the explanation of disease processes on the internet are watered down avoiding technical jargon to make them digestible. While I can't say in your specific case you could have is sciatica, a pain in the a**. Some people with bulging discs can have sciatica for other reasons. Piriformis syndrome is common. Often we are never quite sure what causes sciatica in some people.

As long as he's back and healthy who cares?

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I am real happy about Reddick. I never doubted his return. Doc and Crew knew how important he will be to this team. Guys We Cannot Comprehend How Great Our Team Is. PG - C. Paul....

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Great news that JJ is practicing with the team today. That's a start. I hope he's 100% healthy and ready to play soon. That's going to be exciting to watch a full squad finally!

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